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Hmm. Sounds like your post, @larkenrose.

As i said, it is not about a point...no matter what i say you seem to be in an outburst. they will only make you more angry. no solution comes from an angry mind and no discussion can take place.

i did not intend to give you homework, that is just a session where you will see that you are asking many questions that have been asked and answered over and over. I will not get involved in that centuries long discussion with you.