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RE: Proposal: reduce Hive inflation by reducing curation rewards

in Hive Improvement4 years ago

I'm not sure how all this is calculated or it is possible but would there be someway to differentiate accounts that are auto/bot accounts, be it bid bots or autovote bots/proxy voting and introduce some sort of tax to it? That way manual curation is favoured, it pays better but you can still do your auto thing if you so choose.

Or could there be some way that votes are weighted higher when done manually versus auto? Just thinking out loud, not sure if this is a practical way of doing this

I always thought it would be cool too on front ends to have votes classification so you can see how many votes are manual vs auto that way you know who is putting in the time to view and vote vs people who just want to "support" your work.

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I'm not sure how all this is calculated or it is possible but would there be someway to differentiate accounts that are auto/bot accounts, be it bid bots or autovote bots/proxy voting and introduce some sort of tax to it?

I think this is not easy to do. Methods could be devised to spot the current voting patterns of auto-vote bots, but those could be overcome easily by algorithm changes by the vote bots, leading to an arms race between the two sides that goes nowhere and just wastes time.

But if a curation trail exists, we can certainly identify the participants, correct? Even if it's only to put them on probation for a couple of weeks? 🤔

Don't know. But it sure would hurt efforts like mine if we can't find a way to reward real curating. 🙁

It would be easy to randomize the timing to make such patterns difficult to identify.

if you give permission to a vote bot service you are penalized with less curation rewards. is that possible? If so, anyone aware of that would immediately remove permissions to those services.

There's no obvious way to do that, unfortunately.

BT is correct about the arms race between auto-voters trying to look like manual voters and the code to try detect auto voters. But, the game is even worse; blockchain code to detect auto vs manual will be in the public eye while the moves of the bots are hidden. It's not easy to win a game of chess where your opponent knows ahead of time exactly how you'll react to what they're doing.

I understand and that is a valid point, it would just be a tit for tat exchange and get no one anywhere and focus resources on things that take away from other improvements. I think it comes to a point where you have to gauge the impact like are these auto votes really impacting the end goals?

I mean I would say if tomorrow we had instant sign-ups and users could flood in easily drown out a lot of this and gobble up inflation in more ways than we can think of right now