Over 350 Venezuelans earned more than the Minimum Wage blogging on Hive in October

in Hive Statisticslast year (edited)

Can You Actually Earn a Living by Blogging on Hive?

This is probably a question that crosses the minds of most hivers when they are introduced to the platform. Of course the answer depends on many things, not least of all the amount it costs to cover your living expenses.

To make it easier, let's just look at the country where Hive has had the most success in finding users - Venezuela.

Salaries in Venezuela

Estimates of a typical salary in Venezuela seem to vary. This Bloomberg article suggests that the minimum wage is now $16 per month. Another source suggests simlarly low salaries with an average of $24 a month, but from discussing with @besto who helped me in researching this, this is a little unrealistically low, and the minimum wage is something that only really affects public sector workers. This source suggests the typical salary in the private sector is approximately $53 per month.

Although both may be a little low when accounting for some food stamp type benefits, and in some cases public sector corruption, going forward I will use $16 per month as 'minimum wage' and $53 as 'typical private sector wage'

Earnings on Hive

In the year 2022, we have had upwards of 5000 users posting and earning rewards under the tag 'spanish', and upon manual review it becomes clear that the vast majority are from Venezuela.

I've done a manual review of the tag 'spanish', and found that among the top earners 70% are from Venezuela, but among authors overall it is likely closer to 90%

The following chart shows a breakdown of earnings by users posting with the tag 'spanish' from January to October this year.

Earnings By Decile on 'spanish' Tag - 10 Months.png

In 10 months, 202 users representing the top 1% earned at least $1158 on Hive from author rewards alone. I estimate about 140 of these are Venezuelan, based on the sampling before. This is 140 Venezuelan Hivers earning double the average private sector salary and 7 times the minimum wage.

The following chart shows earnings over that time on a per post basis.

Earnings By Decline on 'Spanish' Tag - Per Post.png

Half of all users of the 'spanish' tag are earning at least $1.33 per post in author rewards. Based on a $16 minimum wage, earnings from a single post represent 2 days of work. The top 10% are earning at least $5.43 per post, or 3 days work on an average private sector salary.

We can also look at just the most recent full month (October 2022), which represents a relatively low month in a bear market for Hive.

Author Rewards on the 'spanish' tag in October.png

528 users posting to the 'spanish' tag earned at least $16 in Hive author rewards alone. Using the same ratio as before, at least 369 Venezuelans earned as much as the national minimum wage, merely from blogging on Hive. With the same method, at least 250 Venezuelan users earned as much as the average private sector salary ($53 per month). This is approximately the top 9% of earners on the tag.

Conclusion - Yes, Hundreds of People at Least are Earning a Living By Blogging on Hive

This post has only looked at author rewards from full blog posts, it has excluded rewards from comments, rewards from curation and any of the other ways that a person can earn on Hive. Yet it has shown that at least in the country where Hive is most popular, people can and do earn a living by blogging on Hive.

Even for those who are earning less - the median author reward is over $1 and represents 2 days of minimum wage salary in Venezuela. A blog post is unlikely to represent a full days work, let alone two.

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What you talk is really the reality of this country... the monthly salary is just little... the public sector pays around 20-30$ at month and the private sector 50$ to 100$ but no more than that...

that's one of the reason that explain the massive exodus from venezuela to other countries...

But as you remark... if you do a online work that could be hive blogging, or freenlance work or even other proffesionals works for outsides companies, venezuelans can earn many times the monthly salary...

but if you dont live inside you may think that the cost of living in venezuela is cheap but it is not!!!

you can't live with 50$ at month.... i did some maths sometimes ago that right now could be even oudated...

for only 1 person to live one month 3 foods at day, (without paying rent) needs from 100$ to 200$

how they do? i dont really know... some dont eat 3 times, or eat litle... cut meat and chiken and eat eggs instead.

that's the really of the people that work for the minimun monthly wage... but not all people does that...

If we assume $100 per month is the true cost of living, approx 100 Venezuelans earned at least that on the 'spanish' tag in October. If we assume $200, it was at least 25.

It is difficult to define the minimum wage line in Venezuela, both for the public and private sectors.

And it has to do with the number of bonuses created from the denaturalization of the salary. Inflation was of such magnitude that from time to time the government decreed bonuses to compensate for the increase in the cost of living.

Thus, the government had no choice but to forget about price controls and accept a de facto dollarization of economic agents, since there was no way to control the market.

This has had two consequences: it reduced the shortage of supplies and increased the supply and slowed down the inflation rate.

However, one consequence has been that world inflation has hit the Venezuelan economy hard because it is not a producer of goods and is practically an importer of everything.

And although the situation has improved somewhat, unfortunately, only services are traded. This makes things more expensive in unsuspected ways and it is very precarious to reach monthly minimum salaries that can range from US$25 to US$80 depending on the case (public or private), the estimated minimum monthly basic basket of between US$350 to US$490 depending on the number of people in the family nucleus (2 to 4).

Put this way, HIVE has been a huge lifesaver for hundreds of Venezuelans.

I greatly understand the concern that this generates in investors and developers, regarding the future of the platform, but I must say that we work tirelessly to teach our community to think like owners and add value to the chain from all possible areas.

My case is an example that it is possible to build capital from HIVE. Of course, we have worked hard, but that does not mean that a whole host of compatriots cannot begin to think like me.

We are forming owners and not suckers of rewards, in this is our life.

I greatly understand the concern that this generates in investors and developers, regarding the future of the platform, but I must say that we work tirelessly to teach our community to think like owners and add value to the chain from all possible areas.

I personally am not concerned about people taking rewards from the platform to pay for their living. People are contributing with content, and participation in the network makes it easier for their friends and families to come on, and eventually local businesses. There is a point where a network can be self sustaining, we are not there yet but a growing community in Venezuela is helping us get closer to it.

@fermionico master exposition

@demotruk I have always said it when some say that only investment creates value. Content generation is critical. It is a leg of the table. If that becomes massive, local merchants can use HBD as a means of payment and there would be the whole table.

I agree with you about using rewards to pay for a living; however, it is much better to shape the thinking as partners in order to empower people financially, don't you think?

And yes, we are on our way to making Hive a self-sustainable platform for the Venezuelan community, have no doubt about it..!

Venezuela is a very complex country, I think the lowest salary I know would be $20 a week and that is quite precarious since a single chicken can be worth up to $10. I always say that hive allows us to live with dignity while working on something we like to do and inspires us to improve, at least I have improved my quality of life in just one year that I have been on the platform and it has even allowed me to discover talents that I did not even I knew that I had, for example, the creation of audiovisual content and that's a plus, it's not just a job where you earn more and that's it, it becomes your company and you want it to grow more and more every day.

I have been working in this company for exactly one year and it has gone much better than working in the private sector in my country, and this is quite commentable and worthy of investigation. Thanks for the mention and sorry for my English, I'm using a translator.

Can You Actually Earn a Living by Blogging on Hive?

An honest answer is: it depends on how you want to live, how much you need for services, food and other necessities.

Also how much money for vices if you have it.

For me Hive is the possibility to save and I have never made power down to my account, I feel Hive as my property because here I invest my time and teach others to love Hive as I do. If we all row towards awakening that love for Hive and doing a more detailed work on the platform, we will surely achieve that there will be less power down on Hive.

To live from Hive in Venezuela I need to be in that list of those 140 hivers 😅

For me the viralization of Hive is important and no matter the country, it positions us in this digital world.

I enjoyed reading you and the opinions.

In any case, dear, @demotruk the rewards obtained by Hive publications will always be very important to solve socioeconomic problems in Venezuela. In my family, my eldest son and I, thanks to Hive, we managed, at least, the necessary help to solve the purchase of food and medicine, for which we consider that Hive has been very welcome in the country and hundreds of Venezuelans affirm it. Successes in such a motivating publication.

I was a university profesor and My payment sallary was 2$ per entire month. I studied 2 careers in the Main university here. I graduated with honours and I was profesor of the Main university here. I was starving. Search for food in garbage. Skinny. Cripto world saves me. And I can bought decent food. And have some primary basic services with the coin. For me it's a miracle. I'm not powerdown lover sometimes I try to hold a Lot. And later I use for Buy some ítems for develop and improve My posts. And Hive it's amazing for develop a Lot of stuffs: art, experiments, My Community, here still lives a LOT of good people trust me!
Blessings and thanks a lot for the charts and data. The cripto metal rocker nahupuku lml

Btw PukuMundo is:

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And a hivers team that develop Videogames. The first Nft tattoo in the history of the humanity, the first and one and only international rock and metal criptocontest and with the rewards we can colabs with people far away like Nigeria, indonesia and others places like Venezuela and latinamerics, with the micro rewards they can improve the qualitu of life there like we do it here lml
Cheers

From my experience helping out via my Offline Hive initiative: A family needs about $500 to live on, depending on their location. A restaurant meal in the Caracas area runs about $25, that's a salary right there. Things like medical costs typically go about $100-200 per visit. To leave Venezuela to Brazil its an average of $5000 and then their cost to live there is also $500 if properly settled. Meanwhile there is big money in Venezuela. We see it at events and conferences. A lot of wealthy people. But the disparity between the rich and the poor is massive. But a lot of money here, high end malls, some amazing places where you see them and you wonder who the hell employs such affluent custies.

You could take a look at people from Nigeria next :D
It could be the same scenario :D

Good suggestion :-)

Why not Bolivians or Ecuadorians, I find it strange that the focus is all from Venezuela?

I think I might have misunderstood your question.

The explanation given in this clip (just a couple of minutes) I think will explain why Hive might have particular appeal in Venezuela over other countries. Skip to 8:38

$3 a month, get lucky with a post on here with a curation and you don't need to work. Just don't buy burgers.

Sheer numbers. We have about 100 times as many users in Venezuela as either Bolivia or Ecuador. There wouldn't be any meaningful data to gather elsewhere.

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also Bolivians or Ecuadorians has a minimun wage of 300$+ in their countries while in venezuela is really low

Delighted to see people coming to hive and using this platform for a living. Such a great help indeed also for those who live in developing countries. Thank you for updating us @demotruk, it made me motivated to invite many people here ;))

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Hi @demotruk!

Interesting perspective about what Hive also is or can be, in this case you choosed Venezuela's use case. Meanwhile, because these are numbers and Venezuelans have names, like we all have, I would like to invite some great Venezuelan Hivers that I remember right now to comment and give their perspective about the subject.
@eddiespino, @manuelramos, @enrique89, @edmundochauran, @fermionico, @arlettemsalase , @soy-laloreto , @samgiset and @danielvehe

I'm Mexican, but almost Venezuelan now, lol.

I thought you leave in Venezuela. Sorry for that lol

Never been to Venezuela, but I'm going next year for sure.

👍 sorry for the misunderstood metion then

Acá te esperamos con los brazos abiertos.

Thanks for mention...honored

You're most welcome! To understand the Venezuelan use case on Hive we need numbers but also the Venezuelan perspective

Hola muchas gracias por tomarme en cuenta para dicha explicación. Saludos un placer.

You're most welcome. I thought as Venezuelan you might add some useful info on this post with your personal experience on Hive and your life experience in Venezuela

Thank you Doze. In Venezuela it is impossible to live on minimum wage. Those who receive these payments have other incomes, share expenses with other family members. Many do not pay utilities and use everything for food. If they have any illness they have to ask for money.

In Venezuela you have to earn more than $500 to live badly. Those who live only on Hive, have special conditions, such as sharing expenses and living in the parents' own house, etc. My income now is only from Hive, but I could not make it on my votes alone. However, in this bear market I have to look for other incomes.

Hive was the salvation for many in 2020, because the costs in the country were not so high. Today we have many things more expensive than in Europe and Hive is not enough. Now we can see it as an additional income but not as the main one.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Things might get better soon to you (hope) because World needs Venezuelan oil, but this is another subject and no need to theorize.

Live is not easy for great part of the world but crypto neither.. best luck to you and hope you got some income, and it helps, from the hype of events going on in Venezuela this days.

Interesting stuff. Hive really is changing lives.

Great post! I think this should be researched more in depth for different countries! I would like to ask, why did you choose the $16 wage figure instead of the more conservative $24 USD one for the Public Sector? I hope to see more research like this in HIVE! !PIZZA !PGM !CTP

I wanted to have a lower minimum and a higher average to compare with. The source that shows $24 also shows $14 being the average in smaller companies, and I have also heard about $10 per month salaries being common in some cases, so I just went with what Bloomberg has for the public sector minimum wage.

But as some commenters have pointed out, in such a volatile country the minimum and even a "good" salary may not actually cover your cost of living in the end. So I mentioned in a comment the numbers who would be covering their cost of living if we make higher assumptions.

If we assume $100 per month is the true cost of living, approx 100 Venezuelans earned at least that on the 'spanish' tag in October. If we assume $200, it was at least 25.

Great! Thank you for the detailed answer! Yes, it's true that volatility and rampant inflation makes difficult to calculate the true cost of living, but for the sake of the research I think is fine; the line should be drawn somewhere because nothing could be presented at the end. It could be interesting to make a poll and maybe case studies to go more in depth. Again, great work! !PIZZA !PGM !CTP

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Pretty accurate. Even though Hive is not having a good time, due to a falling market, it is still a great choice to earn money from home. That's why there are so many of us here.

Tremendous post.

I see it understandable, because there was a time when the Venezuelan was really suffocated economically (still is, we must be clear), decided to undertake online and some payment platforms began to place limitations specifically for the credit card (which in many countries almost an adult minor can have one, the common Venezuelan is impossible), then came the electronic cards to verify the accounts, but then they came to prohibit directly to those who had Venezuelan nationality to make use of certain payment platforms, this in some cases was understandable because there was a lot of money laundering of political leaders, but they surrounded all Venezuelans, and then cryptos became the solution to almost all our problems, for those who worked remotely, for those who sent remittances, for those who wanted to buy products that were not available in Venezuela. Hence, I understand that there is so much presence of Venezuelans in Hive, because it is another of the many solutions we have achieved.

Cryptos for many Venezuelans has literally been freedom, it has been an opportunity, it has been a respite for many Venezuelans. I believe that many people from different countries, such as Cuba, Nigeria, Philippines, will understand what I am talking about.

Wow, you have good statistics and well, you are speaking the truth, although I am not one of those people who makes a living with Hive, I must say that the rewards would make a person earn much more than someone who has a normal job in Venezuela Honestly, Hive is a great platform and it has surely helped many Venezuelans. It is not only a platform to make money, but the money that comes from it is very good for anyone.

It warms my heart to read this ... one of the reasons that I feel good about Hive is because I know it is saving people's lives. In the U.S., it is a joy as an African American to be able to work on a platform on which people are not exploited but are able to help themselves ... there is no blood on Hive, no history of centuries of exploitation that makes the value here. We make the value here, together! Viva Venezuela -- long live the gallant Venezuelan community on Hive!


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Are they staking as well; growing their accounts? Like planting an orchard in order to have continuous harvests. Or are they cashing out? Which would be like plucking the fruit, cutting the trees down, then selling the firewood. One method is sustainable, providing income (even more) for the future, while the other has no future. Any data available representing which course of action they're choosing to take?

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I have never performed a power down, neither has my partner @enmy. I understand that many Venezuelans do it because of the situation, although I tell them that always, even in the worst situation you can save. I always try to promote saving, because that is the key to generating wealth.

It's worth it in the long run. Several folks though, no matter where they're from; say the price shoots up. They drain their accounts. Their friends drain their accounts. Friends of friends drain their accounts. Their entire extended social circle, the people that like their stuff and can relate to it; gone. Can no longer support itself. Then the price settles, they come to earn, but they wrecked themselves. Sometimes even accuse the platform of being unfair, but it boils down to the individual and their own personal choices. Then try to depend on everyone else which is impossible. Even with my amount of HP, I'm spread thin, can only hand out so much in a day. No way of even knowing everyone here.

That's why I use the orchard analogy. Takes awhile to grow one. Once it's ready, you nurture it, eat fruit forever. Never chop down the trees and sell the firewood in order to buy fruit because those trees take a long time to replace.

And I know it's unreasonable to insist people save everything. I don't think like that. I just like to point at the opportunities from time to time and remind people it's theirs, too.

There's been a lot of talk among people using HBD Savings instead of traditional bank savings accounts which are impossible in Venezuela and unreliable everywhere else. A person can save their HBD, leverage the 20% APR and grow their nest egg.

Provided there's a solid foundation allowing for HBD to be accessible/earned, then yes I can agree that HBD savings account is icing on the cake. You called it the nest egg. Can't have those without chickens. And the nest doesn't make itself. Put all the eggs in one basket and suddenly the chickens aren't producing eggs then see no need to build a nest.

Certainly does put the concept of 'living off interest' in far more hands. 20% looks nice and shiny on the surface but there's some fine print that talks about a balancing act people should read first.

Of course there's also people working and earning, living normal lives, outside of Hive; they too can benefit. I've been showing that option to people I know. It's so strange though. In this part of the world (Canada) it seems people would sooner pay interest rather than earn interest. Ever notice that?

Never imagined you were Canadian, always thought you were some sort of a European. I've given up talking to most Canadians about crypto long ago. Nevermind about Hive. People who don't care that Canadian banks agreed to freeze accounts of people without any due process based on some random list from who knows where will not understand Hive.

Said 'Canada' in my profile for six years. lol

Technically I am some sort of a European. Most of my blood comes from Ukraine and my dad still speaks the language. I was born in SK.

And yeah. Not many people excited about anything crypto around me. They all think I'm crazy.

I would like to know why this only happens with Venezuelan accounts... because it seems to me that now the accounts written in English and that are from other countries have no more meaning for Hive.

Will Hive be an exclusive blockchain for Spanish and South American countries?

For these floors I would say yes... there is no lack of "official" accounts in Spanish (3spk, hivecreators, etc) and valueplan supports almost only initiatives that are located in Venezuela, Cuba or countries where Spanish is spoken.

Wouldn't the rest of the world (USA, Europe, even Russia) be interesting countries to spread our blockchain? Or do we even support more projects that can be beneficial for Hive?

This leads me to think that maybe Hive's destiny as social media is only for people who speak and write Spanish and the rest are left with games.

I'm starting to understand why several projects that could be launched on Hive always end up going to other blockchains like BSC or Polygon.

We only really need to become big in one region to eventually become big everywhere. On the other hand there's little point in being a little bit everywhere, but not especially big in any single location.

The reason for that is that economic network effects with money are in practice pretty local. The vast majority of financial transactions that almost everyone does, are the small ones that people use day to day, with people they meet in person. Particularly things like going to the grocery store, the coffee shop, the pub etc.

A network like ours needs to get to the point where there is a self-sustaining economy that is using it at its core. If Hive and HBD starts being used not just as a niche source of income, soon converted into local currency, but as something that people are using together in their local community, in their local shops and businesses - that is a solid foundation to expand from. A smaller presence in many places, but where you cannot use Hive or HBD in your local community, is much more likely to disappear at any time.

In Venezuela, the stars somewhat align to make this a possibility. Money is not functioning as it should in the country, and people are basically crying out for a solution to this. It also just happens to be where we have our largest community by far, and that was before we made any particular effort for it to be the case. By making efforts to grow in this particular market, we are attempting to exploit an opportunity that doesn't yet exist elsewhere (although some countries like Turkey and Argentina are potentially on a Venezuela-like trajectory).

I can understand that we want to try to start to become big somewhere in the world, but I don't believe that we will be bigger in Venezuela when in the statics we are talking about 350 Venezuelans when Venezuela has a population of 28.7 million.

So, I think we are too far away from being relevant on Venezuela and we, as community, "are paying" more than national double salaries for 0.000015% of Venezuela population and this it is only taking in consideration the reward pools.

Have you looked to the HBD that are being transferred to Venezuelan users/projects from Decentralized Hive Fund?
Because taking in consideration, these transfers, the values presented in the post are too low.

So, now Hive the goal to be a micropayment coin to daily basis, right?
If yes, 95% of the country will never be interested to use Hive or HBD as payment coin since they are already using bitcoin lightning network and people will prefer to receive BTC since it has more liquidity that Hive or HBD.

With more people come more merchants, with a bigger widespread come more people, at some point there should be enough people here who directly earn, stake, get interest etc to make the bridging from hive to lightning unnecessary because they can pay with hive/hbd directly and the merchants who have a hive/hbd account + an exchange account would be happy to accept that directly, especially with a stable hbd. I'm not too concerned about the costs of proposals going towards paying for conferences and events that spread the word of Hive, no matter the location or how impactful it is, it's a good first step towards marketing "in the real world" and at the same time all these people who go to the conferences are more established and rewarded and at the same time incentivized to bring more people in because they're receiving rewards in more ways than the person next to them discussing other projects cause of how Hive L1 works here where contributions are rewarded in many ways.

I am not also concerned about to spend money with marketing (conferences, publicity campaigns, events, etc) but I have some concerns related to a project that received more HBD than an apartment value with 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms in Caracas.

Do you think that is normal?

I am just being more participant on entire Hive ecosystem and see what projects are being develop in different areas. So, I don't know if this kind of thing it is normal or not.

I understand the impact to bring more people to our ecosystem that will make it attractive to merchants to accept direct Hive/HBD payments, as occurred with SLP in the Philippines during Axie Infinity FOMO.

Are you talking about @pettycash? It's in the hands of trusted keyholders and decision makers so I don't really see the point you're trying to make nor do I understand why you have to compare it to what you did. Doesn't matter if it's devs, marketing or whatever else is being funded, we strive for a general equality on the platform where it doesn't matter where you are from as long as you do what you say you're going to do when making a proposal or asking for funding for certain events. I curate the same way, although there it's more about activity, history and other factors rather than "just being about the content", but to give you an example, and by this I don't mean to imply that that's what you meant in your comment, but I don't go around checking what a country's average GDP is before I decide what vote to reward an author with. I'm also pretty sure that while some countries are in a deep hyperinflation it doesn't mean that the costs of things has gotten cheaper along with it.

No, I am not talking about @pettycash.
I am talking about @swc-oficial.

@hivefest received 54905 HBD to help with costs to organize our annual blockchain meetup.
@swc-oficial from 21st April until now received 43541.4 HBD, and we have two months until the end of year.

Do you think that is normal a work-out event receive almost the same founds as HiveFest?

I know that does not matter where we are from since first crypto premise is "not exist countries" and I agree that we shall not take in consideration if the user country it has hyperinflation, but I think we need to have some data related with this "investments" in marketing to have a transparent information (for example: how many people attended to the event/conference, what was the traffic on hive landing page, etc.). Otherwise, it is unclear trying to understand whether these campaigns bear fruit for our blockchain.

That's the cost of marketing. And is very cheap if you ask me. In the end is Hive's money for Hive purposes, not yours, not mine, not value's plan. I've partaken in the Caracas Blockchain Week, had to ask for a loan to Neoxian and actually had to spend of that money, the cost of living is quite expensive here, more than first world countries.

Wait... Are you comparing Caracas Blockchain Week participation vs a workout event?

Do you really believe that event shall receive almost the same as HiveFest or even as Caracas Blockchain Week?

It's not a lot money if you ask, come to Venezuela and see the real cost of living. No one in their right mind lives here with minimum wage. It's just a marker.

We are not talking about Venezuela's living costs.

No, we are talking about how Hive it is doing, which is the blockchain's future.

Fortunately, I live in a "developed country", but don't say that the cost of living in Venezuela is higher than in other countries.

Because of these two images Portugal vs Venezuela.... it seems to me that our cost of living is high.

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But as I mentioned earlier, this is not what is at issue here.

I believe they are attacking markets where the userbase is broader, like for instance countries like Venezuela where Hive is quite popular and getting recognizition. That said, Hive is not Venezuela, Hive is a worldwide project. The purpose of valueplan is to provide assistance instead of making tons of individuals proposals on the DHF. If Hive proves to be successful in one country, it can serve as a blueprint so the other ones can follow. It's business bro. The numbers don't lie. It's not "our fault" to be in this position. And after the Caracas Blockchain Week things are going to get better and spicy. Cheers.

The only thing I didn't like about what you said was that it seemed like you used a tone of superiority as if Venezuela users were more than other Hive users.

That's the wrong principle and if the rest of Hive users can't discuss what's happening on our blockchain, it seems to me a bad sign, because someone may not be being transparent.

As I said, I have no problem with marketing being done in Venezuela to bring in more users, but I would like the data on these marketing investments to be clearer and more transparent for everyone.

Many of the marketing initiatives do not disclose a single data about the success/failure of the outlined plan.

It's not "your fault" to be in this situation, but I would like to see the same openness to initiatives in other countries like the USA or even European countries.

I guess that's USA or European's Job to do. The DHF is there for everyone to try any proposal. Not superiority at all, sorry if you misunderstood it. Hive is worldwide as there's real proof of progress in other countries. I guess I spoke from heart cause I'm still excited about CBW. Cheers bro.

Yes DHF it is there to try any proposal but the proposal are only accepted if blocktrades vote on them because without ther vot any proposal will not be accepted even if the e tire community vote.

Last year I started a project on Hive called @hiveland.dapp and the proposal was not accepted but I think the Platform was very interested for the e tire community

Oh I see, I think I voted for your proposal.😔

I hadn't, I just voted for it

I wish you good fortune in your project. Just gave it a follow and will see what is about. Thanks for sharing.

The project will be shut down this month.

We reflected about the costs that we are having and the time that we were spent and decided to close it since we have a full time job, and we were only spent money on this without any help/support from community.

Valueplan accepts projects from anyone. You can create a proposal. No matter the country. We did an interview with one of its administrators, you can see it here. He explains very well how it works.

I agree with you about presenting results and impact of the proposals.

https://peakd.com/hive-189306/@rutablockchain/ruteros-especiales-con-guiltyparties-valueplan

Thanks for share that link.

I will read it to understand much better how valueplan works.

I read your link but I have a question:

How people can submit projects/proposals to valueplan?

Valueplan supports initiatives in all countries but here's the issue: in Venezuela we have a lot of professionals from among the Hive community who are able to dedicate their time because they are not only motivated by seeing Hive succeed but also by this drive to help others. Some people were also either forced into retirement or have had reduced work opportunities due to the economic collapse. It's not a stretch for these individuals to do conferences and talk B2B or to organize something because the educational and professional background is there and the time component is there. Costs for events are also reasonable and we can ultimately lead to a very wide-spread HIVE/HBD use throughout the country.

In places like the US, however, both costs and opportunities provide challenges. A ten minute speaking engagement at a conference can go for 10k just for the opportunity, and those are not easy to get. The pressure on a person to go up and do a presentation in 10 minutes is astronomical. If we were to staff a booth at a major conference, outside of the actual costs of things like travel, lodging and food, we wouldn't be able to get the people. The US is a huge country unlike something reasonable like Venezuela where you can drive through it. In the US people can't get the time off work and there are other major barriers. We'll see conferences there in the coming year.

Take a look at the latest Valueplan post as it has some good projections for the coming year. Anyone can put in for it if they have an opportunity in mind which they think is suitable for Hive.

Interesting numbers and great to see that hive is changing lives. Also interesting to see the downvotes, can't understand why.

Why is he downvoting this article?

Disagreement on rewards.

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