Assembling the core of the solar array

in STEMGeekslast year (edited)

My Hive buddy and PAL streamer of The Tinker Tribe @makinstuff came out to my farm along with his friend to help me set up the innards of the solar array. The battery bank, inverters, transfer switches and wiring was the work I needed help with. His friend is an EE (electrical engineer) and @makinstuff is well versed in the solar arrays as he has one himself. My farm hand and I did the work of burying the wire, setting up the panels and anything else that is not electrical related.

The day started with unpacking the batteries, lots of tape to remove on the terminals, and with 48 of them it took a few hours. As the tape came out, buss bars were used to run multiple sets of series of batteries in parallel. We used disconnect switches on the inverter to the array and for the solar to make it more safe working on it.

Buss bars are thick pieces of copper that transfer electrical current better than strands of wire.

We got a picture together before getting to work, I was already all sweaty working outside. He had the nice cool basement to work in.. haha We joked every other time we have met the weather was awful and quite wild, with crazy thunderstorms and all day rain and the next day we got snow. Next time I camped out at his place the wind was very strong but at least no snow and freezing rain. The weather was quite nice during their stay in Virginia. Worked out the third time we hung out the weather was finally good. Glad it could finally come out to my farm and check it out a little during their short stay here.

These batteries are lithium iron phosphate, with an expected life of over twenty years!

Banks of batteries is the best way to store energy produced by the solar panels. With over 10,000 watts of power my panels are producing we need lots of storage.

Transfer switches are used to switch from grid power to solar when needed. We ended up installing two in this basement so we can cover all the breakers and not have to exclude some from the solar array.

Next was to install the solar panel combiner box, this is where the rows of panels all combine together. We use blocks mount it to one of the panel poles.

This bow allows of to series up panels, and then run them in parallel.

Eventhough the cables are designed for direct bury, we sleeved them up so they do not get damaged when trimming the grass around them. I did not want to put them in the ground. Figured if I could see them good its better than not knowing where they are while digging.

Running power into my workshop, we drilled a hole through the sheet metal.

Then using an electrical box we can run wire through and it goes all the way to the ground outside to protect the wire.

I had ordered more panels before their arrival, but the ETA of the shippers showed they would arrive after they left. Leaving some spots open in my array.

Though luckily the panels showed up early, and we had a chance to put up a few before they had to leave back home. My farm hand and I can put up the rest.

I come back to the basement where its all wired up and lots has been done.

We added more supports to the table to make sure it can handle the weight.

We used some 2x6's and my miter saw to cut them at angles to put up.

That should help the table handle the weight well.

Helping get conduit into wire I thought the pros made it easy but seems everyone struggles getting that wire into the sleeves.

Unfortunately we could not get everything set up on their first attempt. I will need to run more wire to buildings to support 240v and that is something I will need in my workshops. I thought only two wires needed to buried, which is fine for 120v but not 240v. So now we are planning on setting up a second battery bank and split the PV between the two battery banks. So I will need to order more batteries and inverters. So long runs of trenching does not need to be redone, just to add two more wires. Having two battery banks will add reliability and that way we will have more capacity. And in a pinch I could run 120v to other buildings using the wire already in the ground.

So what's next?

We need to get another battery bank ordered, and they come from China so it could be a month or longer to get it.

Buy an inverter for the home with the new battery bank. We are thinking of going with a single 12,000w inverter instead of two 6500w in parallel.

I need to run two more wires to my workshop. So it can have 240v. The other homes will have their own battery banks and inverters so they will have 240v as well.

Put in the last row of solar panels, bringing me up to 13kw (13,350w)

Wait for @makinstuff and his friend to return to finish wiring up the farm.

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This is super exciting! I hope you get the most mileage out of them.

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Yeah I am looking forward to them paying themselves back in a decade or so.. Luckily the batteries are rated to last over 20 years.

It is so cool to see the process of this. Thanks for sharing.

Ah glad to share the progress, hopefully it helps others get started in solar as well.

@solominer This work is hard and expensive, which is worth it because having an internal current, with the energy coming from the sun, is something extraordinary. For the future, you will have more energy with less hassle. I am not an expert in the matter, but I think that what I understand is positive, for the good of his large estate and logically his future. I wish you much success, which can be achieved with care and experience. Greetings from Venezuela.

It is, quite the amount of labor and money I have put into it but long term I think it will pay itself back many fold.

Sure is, really looking forward to powering my farm using the sun.

No worries, you give me great advise on other aspects of the farm. We cannot be experts in everything.

This is how it will be @solominer , for now we feel the expenses, later the effective work and productivity of the farm, it is the hope to recover the investment and the other benefits will always come in addition, surely it will be so and I wish it with all my heart from Venezuela . With your faith and optimism, you will make it. I will always be grateful for your visits to my publications, which by the way I tell you, how good yoga would be done in your beautiful farm, experience it, yoga also strengthens the body and mind.

that is one big battery , i only have 6 panels on my roof and no battery but my energie bill is only € 53,- [gas included ] a month so not complaining, it's really nice to be self supported most of the time.

was surprised to see that you need 240v for your workshop i thought they only used 110v in the US.

Hah yeah, it is quite big.

Oh cool. Interesting you had no battery bank, did not know you could run it like that. But wow thats cool... very cheap haha

Yes, I plan on having a vehicle lift in my workshop and it needs 240v. Also if I ever want to weld I will need that as well.

Decent work,

What is the avg output of your pannels and recharge time and how you control all of that? With an PII?

And I don't say it to suck you off, it's pretty decent what you have done, respect.

Thanks, though the technical work was done by my friends so I cannot claim any of their credit.

The panels during peak should be bringing in 13.5kw as for averages I do not know yet as they are not all connected. I still need to put up another 8 or so panels before the array is complete. During testing we saw 8kw coming in though so thats nice.

Using a combiner box they are all paralleled and it is controlled using a mppt controller and inverter. Heres the one I have.

https://sungoldpower.com/collections/parallel-solar-inverter/products/6500w-48v-solar-charge-inverter-parallel-wifi-monitor

We have two we are trying to run in parallel but may need to go with just one large 12k inverter instead.

Lol thanks man, appreciate the true and honest comment.

The panels during peak should be bringing in 13.5kw as for averages I do not know yet as they are not all connected. I still need to put up another 8 or so panels before the array is complete. During testing, we saw 8kw coming in though so thats nice.

8 Kw is pretty good for 8 panels. How big they are?

We have two we are trying to run in parallel but we may need to go with just one large 12k inverter instead.

A bigger one is easier to maintain and you have some room to scale around.

I know there is the software you can use multiple ones for different "tasks" if I remember right.

I know that a lot of work, special to optimize it, pretty cool project.

Btw what battery units do you use? They look pretty big :)

Amazing work!!

thanks a lot

Woah, I see tons of batteries and a lot of work there...

haha We joked every other time we have met

Haha, that's the real beauty of working together.

This is real satisfactory work... Great to see Your workshop is turning into something Nice and Gonna be exciting to work in farm.

I hope more battery bank will be reached soon and the wire work will be done smoothly.

Yeah it is, 48 of them.. haha

I think so too, its going to be done eventually.. Some projects take longer than others.

Haha, Good luck bud.. I'm sure results will be incredible for this efforts!

Looking forward to see when this project is done! Have a Wonderful weekend ahead.

Awesome setup, that's a lot of batteries for the initial setup. One of the biggest challenges is what to do with all the excess power at peak times :) Nice to see @makinstuff there too :D

Thanks, it is. I wanted to future proof it and go with something bigger than I actually need.

Good point, I may end up buying some BTC miners if I have a lot of extra power to spare.

Electrical work can be both complex and very important. You are very lucky to have someone to help you with this, my friend. Although you are always joking, electricity is no joke xD I hope these battery banks arrive as soon as possible and you can finish the electricity. Good luck!

Yeah it is quite complex, had to get smarter people involved to get it completed. All I can do is connect panels and run wires, everything else is beyond me.

Sure is.. being DC its quite dangerous and I am very careful around the wires as they have deadly current in them.

Thanks man, me too.. will post some updates as they come.

That is amazing, as an Automstion Eng. I have had the opportunity to learn and do electrical work, but I have never done this type of installation. Thanks to you I have learned something about the subject.

I forgot that solar panels need you to have a Giant battery array. In the PBS and science videos they showed us, usually its just plugged directly to a light bulb which fulfills the part that shows solar can power it.

But in reality, setting up a solar grid is very costly and demanding.

Also, loving the part of using wood as much as possible. UwU

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Dear @solominer , since your last visit to me, how is the solar energy reception project going? I am very aware of this important work, which I have great faith will generate many benefits for your farm. successes.

Awesome work! It's a great accomplishment just getting them setup. Funny how these projects always throw a wrench in the works and always end up costing more than you initially plan. Been there before!
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