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When THORChain lists Monero...

Direct from the desk of Dane Williams.




Not if, but WHEN THORChain lists Monero, it’s game over for regulators. Here are my thoughts.

THORChain (RUNE) is a decentralised liquidity network that enables native cross-chain swaps.

All without the need for wrapping or pegging assets.

In other words, it allows users to easily exchange one cryptocurrency for another across different blockchains.

On the other hand, Monero (XMR), is a privacy-focused cryptocurrency that utilises ring signatures and stealth addresses to keep transactions anonymous and untraceable.

Has the lightbulb gone off in your head yet regarding what will happen when THORChain lists Monero?

While there has always been a lot of speculation about the potential impact of a listing without much action, it really is an inevitability.

In this post, I explore the possibilities of a privacy coin DEX listing and what it could mean for the entire financial landscape.

A screenshot from the THORChain DEX showing that THORChain hasn’t listed Monero (XMR)... yet!

The positive impact of a Monero (XMR) listing on THORChain

THORChain listing Monero (XMR) will have a significant impact on the financial landscape.

It’s not even a question.

One of the main positives of a listing would be increased privacy and fungibility for society.

Not just the rich.

But every single person, no matter their background or geographic location.

This would have a positive impact on individuals who value their privacy.

Particularly in countries with strict financial regulations or those that are prone to authoritarian government surveillance and the like.

You see, Monero (XMR) is a privacy-focused cryptocurrency that uses ring signatures and stealth addresses to keep transactions anonymous and untraceable.

If THORChain listed XMR, users would instantly have the ability to conduct transactions without the fear of being tracked or monitored.

This would give them the freedom to transact without having to worry about anything or anyone.

Everything would change.

By essentially turning all cryptocurrencies into defacto privacy coins, their fungibility and therefore value would actually be enhanced.

A Monero THORChain listing would be good for everyone.

Consider this.

THORChain listing Monero (XMR) would significantly increase the quality of life across all of society.

For me, the pros would by far outweigh the cons.

Do criminals transact privately now?

Of course they do, so you’re beating a dead horse by limiting Monero’s use anyway.

That argument against Monero is literally the worst…

The challenges that governments and regulators will face

While the increased privacy and fungibility offered by a THORChain listing of Monero (XMR) has many positive benefits, the biggest challenge will be for regulators.

The bottom line here is that regulators will have to adapt to a new system where transactions are untraceable.

Obviously this will make it more difficult to monitor financial activity and prevent money laundering and other illicit activities.

Ohh scary, right?

However, the truth is that technology is evolving at such a rapid pace that it will be impossible for regulators to keep up.

Decentralised finance is already pushing the limits of what is possible and it's unlikely (again, impossible) that regulators will be able to control the technology.

Moreover, I’m obviously of the opinion that personal freedom is paramount.

Individuals should have the right to conduct transactions without fear of being monitored or tracked, particularly in countries with oppressive governments or strict financial regulations.

The ability to transact privately is a fundamental human right, and technology is enabling people to exercise this right more effectively than ever before.

The challenges for financial institutions and governments who rely on monitoring financial activity to prevent money laundering and other illicit activities are real.

However, it is important to recognise that the technology has already passed them by.

Instead of trying to control or regulate it, regulators should focus on adapting to the new reality and finding ways to work with the technology to promote personal freedom via education.

Education is the best form of protection that they can provide their citizens in the new paradigm.

Will THORChain ever list Monero?

Wrapping up, the question of whether THORChain will ever list Monero (XMR) remains unanswered.

But it is still a topic of significant discussion among cryptocurrency enthusiasts on Twitter and Threads.

The potential impact of such a move cannot be overstated, and it will definitely be a game changer in the world of finance WHEN it happens.

The ability to move between XMR without permission and make transactions on all cryptocurrencies go dark would provide enhanced privacy and fungibility for users.

Think about it.

It would essentially allow every single coin listed on the THORChain DEX to become a privacy coin.

I keep saying it, but the game changing power of a single DEX listing for Monero can’t be understated.

Sure, this also presents challenges for regulators and financial institutions as they try to adapt to a new system where transactions are private and untraceable.

But remember regulators aren’t meant to be some greater power.

They’re meant to work for the people and you know… actually help us!

This will force their hand in having to actually give their citizens credit and educate rather than regulate.

Regardless of when THORChain lists Monero (XMR), it is clear that the technology is evolving rapidly.

Going forward it will be all of our responsibility to find a way to balance privacy and security, while still maintaining financial integrity.

I don’t know about you, but I’m optimistic for what this type of future will hold.

Best of probabilities to you.

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That would be an interesting scenario but wouldn't it be possible for the exchanges to figure out whether or not funds came through Monero? I have a feeling that they might not be able to trace things down to the source but they can still collect some information.

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Another layer of secrecy could be added using SCRT.network

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Honestly, I haven't looked into SCRT.

So are you saying that they could be used together?

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I believe so, I am not actually sure of the system used but SCRT is working on making all and or part of transactions to be secret. For example, if there was a ride share app on t a blockchain who wants their info on when and where they go publicized on the chain?
The vital info is kept secret between the provider and customer. I have not kept up with the project but it does solve a problem concerning privacy I just don't know how or to what degree it functions at the moment.

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Hmm, okay I'm definitely going to go down the SCRT rabbit hole this week.

Cheers :)

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Hmm 🤔.

Can you walk me through the scenario you have in mind and why you think it could be a problem?

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Well in my mind, Monero isn't safe because of all the things around it. The regulations could include blocking entities dealing with Monero and I doubt those centralized exchanges would risk taking any Monero due to it. It sounds like it would be a whole lot of work for the government but I just don't think it's impossible.

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My take is that there will always be fiat on/off ramps in other jurisdictions.

Or simply some that won't care about what a regulator says.

Your classic 'fake offshore bucketshops' if you will.

The only way they can try to stop Monero is at the fiat on/off ramps and the reality is that in a globalised world, this is still impossible.

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It's amazing how everyone is ignoring privacy coins and development on those blockchains... I was following up lately DERO and it's incredible how much potential is in the privacy smart contracts sphere! Sorry for going off-topic, but the whole privacy coin narrative and development will come to the surface, sooner or later... It is too good to be ignored and I share the same opinion as you... It's not a question of IF, it's only the question of WHEN...


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DERO is one privacy coin project that I've seen mentioned a few times.

Definitely going to look deeper into this one.

PS. I just Googled and lol at the name:

Exactly what first came to my mind when I read it too haha.

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I mean, you can basically do that now, with more steps. And once taproot is implemented on BTC, it will basically be a privacy coin in its own right. I don't think THORchain currently has enough users for that to make an immediate difference. I could be wrong.

But you're right about the regulators. Going after XRP was absolutely stupid, and will likely be a huge setback for them in the long run. They could have gone after privacy tokens or DEFI and done a lot of damage to this space. Instead, they tried to go for XRP in a bid to set a precedence for going after basically everything except for BTC, and they will most likely fail and set an opposite precedent.

If they succeed, it will do a huge amount of damage to the crypto space in the medium term, and irreparable damage to American competitiveness in the long term.

Small correction: Bitcoin HAS implemented Taproot. So it's much more private now than it was in the past.

and irreparable damage to American competitiveness in the long term.

For all their talk, the US is never going to outright ban crypto.

There's too much money at stake, not to mention it would be a national security risk to let their competition take full control.

I'm convinced that behind closed doors, the higher ups understand this.

Surely...

Probably...

Maybe...

Uh oh...

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😂😂😂🤣😭

I actually met a state regulator in NC who had an interest in crypto regulation once. He seemed fairly knowledgeable. And Gary Gensler DEFINITELY understands crypto (take a gander at his lecture series on it if you get the chance; it's on YouTube).

But I don't think most of our elected representatives understand it at all. I think their idea of cutting edge crypto tech is a CBDC.

Post voted 100% for the hiro.guita project. Keep up the good work.

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The irony of being told I have been manually curated by an automated message, is not lost on me.

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It would be ironic if it were true but it is not. I have no idea how to make an automatic message.🤣🤣🤣
What it is is a cut and paste because it doesn't give me the head to personalize so many messages.😘

While you're here, what was it you enjoyed about the post?

I'm interested in your thoughts on a future where privacy coins are freely available on DEXs.

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I found the approach of the regulated financial market and privacy coins interesting as a counterpart to this problem for the citizen.
In my opinion without financial freedom there is no freedom.