Crypto is fun, crypto is interesting.
If you are on Hive, on LeoFinance - you deal with crypto. Cryptocurrencies.
Which all in turn are so much tangled with cryptography. Encryption. Various ciphers.
Today, while studying various wallet and crypto tricks, I came across something very interesting and new (to me) in cipher. And it gave me an idea to make a puzzle.
Lets see if anyone can recognize this thing. Here is a string of 24 words:
town dance wife warn cover somewhere caress serious daddy foot whistle problem clearly grandma hey play surround experience tuck blanket compare scary parent poet
Behind this string is hidden a five word secret phrase. A short statement, which is actual to most of us today.
It is very recognizable.
First person, who will post this secret phrase in the comment section, will win a prize from me.
At first I was thinking of making the prize 10 or 20 Leo.
I have no idea if this task is hard or not. Somebody who has seen this page (which I found today) - may recognize the pattern easily, and can figure out the right answer without to much sweat. But maybe all is not so simple.
So I decided to make the winners prize variable. It will start from 4 Leo, after 12 hours it will double, and will continue to double after every next 24 hours. Doubling just like Bitcoin mining difficulty every 210K blocks. Just like this:
So if you find the answer (which, again, will be very easy to recognize, once you get to it) you have a choice - give you answer right away, and be the first to win whatever is actual that moment, or wait for several days, maybe even all seven, and let the prize grow bigger.
Your risk, your challenge.
Get less for sure, or wait and let your reward grow (but it may be taken away any moment by somebody else)
I hope you like this.
I hope I am not the only one here, who likes risk (and adrenaline) 😃
Spoiler 1: This has nothing to do with BIP39, 24 word mnemonics seeds.
Spoiler 2: It takes only ONE copy-paste to get the right answer. Second "paste" can be used to post your answer in your comment.
Reward will be sent to winner in staked LEO, in <24 hours after right answer is posted.
Disclaimer: The methods used in this cipher are recognized as being not secure enough to protect your sensitive passwords, seeds and/or private keys. Never use them to protect your valuable assets!
The time is now 11:50 UTC, so the first doubling occurs at 23:50 UTC, 5th March 2021.
Good luck.
P.S. (update @ 19:14 UTC)
I just discovered smth interesting (and funny) - a totally different string of 24 words is also giving exactly the same result, the same secret enciphered phrase.
This one:
crap demand eventually strong leap glass mind flat torment winter apologize worth should stolen ready yell certain echo hunt heartbeat ready cheek bliss glass
P.S.2
This puzzle been already SOLVED
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FUCK, this was hard work! But my nephew @pusen and I found something here, something there - and BOOM!!
"DeFi = the future of LeoFinance"
It has been fun. Now back to work :)
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Wild encryption method. We probably wouldn't have figured it out if it wasn't for the second string of 24 words and a lucky google search. Teamwork makes the dream work!
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Before I have a detailed separate post how this puzzle was born, can you share how exactly the second string was able to help you ? A bit surprised to hear this.
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We found this list of words that coincidentally included words from both of your 24 word strings. It couldn't be a coincidence. @krishare can fill you in on the rest.
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Well, in two ways. It ruled out any classic cipher, where both encryption and decryption has unique outcomes. Second, a google hit on all 48 words was helpful 😉
@onealfa so it means that @krishare won the puzzle....that is an amazing one,would love to know how he cracked that intelligent puzzle.....
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@pusen and I have spent maaaaany hours on this one! As I said, the fact that two sets of words decrypts into the same sentence, rules out almost every cryptographic method I know. I also noticed the lack of similarities between the sets. Word length, word classes, number of vocals, you name it.
A breakthrough was to find this list, which contains all 48 words:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists/Contemporary_poetry
@pusen found a python script using this list, and this gave me a hexnumber easily translated to text. One step left, ROT13 - and the solution was found :)
Very interesting. So much different from what I used, and what I was expecting.
I knew (expected) this "poetry" cipher method is not secure, is weak. But not that much.
In fact I was not aware of this complete 2000 word list. Would I knew this - at least I would not give the last hint, the second 24 word string.
The moral once again is confirmed now: DON't trust anybody!
But you have to, sometimes, right?
then...A true random number generators, and a very very high ENTROPY is your best friends in crypto
Wait for my story on all this, from the very beginning. I hope you will like it.
Your 8 LEO prize @krishare been delivered (forgot to stake it for you, but you can do it easy by yourself, if you like so):
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First of all, excellent work both you have done. I wish you could have wait a little more to empty onealfa's pocket a little more... Lol.
Once again, excellent, marvelous, outstanding.
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i am really very interested in that too
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This is another amazing thing I just found:
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Yep, @pusen showed me the way 😄 Learning about this site was the REAL price!
@krishare welcome sir,good to have such an intelligent person like you here....congratulations on the contest by @onealfa which you won......
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Well if nerdy interest in a very small subject is intelligence, I'm guilty 😂 Thank's a lot @miyimiti, it was a sheared effort with @pusen - not sure I would have had the stamina to finish the task on my own!
What it means?
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@onealfa.leo wow that is really interesting,this is the reason why leofinance should keep encouraging more people to join the platform,so many intelligent people keep coming into the platform and sharing their knowledge and skills too....
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This is so awesome, I am busy now creating a new puzzle. I hope @onealpha will like it. Stay tuned.
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EASY! I got this, but I'll wait some more for bigger rewards :P
Nah, I'm just kidding. I have no idea. Great contest, however! I liked the dilemma of answering right away for smaller rewards or waiting on bigger rewards but risking it all.
I'll give it some thought, but not feeling all that hopeful!
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Not a damm clue so far... Will come back later and see if manage to extract any meaningful five words.
How do you come up with these things by the way?
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Sorry, I can't say any more at this time. Will explain all in detail after 7 days, or once the right answer goes public
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At least I tried...
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Hold On For Dear Life
Damn!
This was huge prize but I am late. I just want to say that these kind of rewarding posts are the motivation to win something.
I am new here on leo. I thought I would win something but anyways, congrats to the winner.
LeoOn 🦁
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Man, there are moments like this that I feel stupid, but it also serves as an apprenticeship, a type of legal contest increasing the prize over the term
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Well I tried for quite sometime but didn't succeed . I will try to come back later on to give it another try .
For anyone who is interested , I don't know if this is a clue or coincidence but -
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One of the favorite person @onealfa intertaing lions
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Lol some guy asked for help on Reddit:
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Does not make sense to me, guess I'm out.
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Would you give up so quick, if reward doubling algo would remain every 12 hours, until this post expires? 😃
Like this:
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Don't bait me, I might bite.
I've tried most of the online tools since I am not exactly an expert but failed miserably...
But my guess is "You won't find it fuckers" or "512 LEO won't come easy"
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@onealfa this is an interesting puzzle and also difficult too..lol....but i am seriously waiting to see someone get the answer to the puzzle so that i can also learn from it...great contest from you sir
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I guess we will see when you post the answer.
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! help(no space) to get help on Hive. InfoI was trying at this for a while earlier today and had to go out. Been thinking about it non stop all day. You've ruined me. I won't be able to sleep!
If I give this to my colleague who has studied cryptography (without telling him of the prize of course) it wouldn't be cheating, right? RIGHT?
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You are free to do what ever it takes
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Damn it, @onealfa.
I'm going to have to make my brain work harder than normal, haha!
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if I try a random generator to create 5 word phrases from above words it is 5,100,480 Phrases lol. I guess i will try using my mind :D Seems hard though.
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You are going to a wrong direction.
Spoiler 3: not even one single word from the given string (as we see them) is included in the right answer phrase.
Not even as a partially, for the longer version.
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It looks interesting. I don't expect to see anyone try today, maybe in a couple of days? Let's see. I'm also working on it.
Could be your seed to your Trezor? oh, no, wait, those words are shorter :)
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Just checked replies to see it hasn't been won yet and will give it a shot this evening. This could be some good fun as there are some whacky answers already lol.
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This is great nerdy fun.
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"Securely store your seed phrase" I'm hoping there was no cipher and it was a secret tip hidden by posting a sample seed phrase LOL I'm running a similar contest! (though a lot smaller) I think giving out leo power is a great way to get people involved.
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oh well well this puzzle making me have headache, let me drop my words:
'The hidden stranger lashed out'
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I have also spend time and came up with this phase
gradma expereience serious problem somewhere
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Funny, but....no
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!ENGAGE 10
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ENGAGEtokens.my guess was that bad sir
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I will give this a go . By looking at it , I think I know what my first step should be , will be back later on after trying it.
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"Hey grandma daddy scary parent"
Lol, no fucking idea. Wasted 30 minutes, no clue
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Ha ha ha 😃😃😃🤣🤣😊😂😂👍
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Interesting. This is a double contest; contest for the right combination and contest for the nerves to wait for the right time to share.
Is there only one attempt anyone can try to or multiple ones?
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No problem, you can try multiple times. Once you see the right answer (after 7 days the latest), you will see that multiple tries are not much of a need or help in this puzzle.
Once you find the right solution - you will 100% know that you got it right.
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Let me say a few words of appreciation, my honest thoughts.
Not only the reward is a big motivation for the participation but the puzzle itself is an interesting and exciting one. I think, people, who won't be able to solve it, would definitely visit the post multiple times to see what is the correct answer (I wish, we could know the number of views, @dalz) and would have been eagerly waiting for the answer post, even if there wasn't any reward attached to it.
IMHO, this is really something that's not very common on our chain/ecosystem.
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Number of views a post has isn't stored on hive blockchain so it's not possible to get it from there but we can use some other analytics websites to see it
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Correct. What do you suggest?
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been allowed to try multiple times is a great previlege that we should all take advantage of and we can be the lucky winner....good one from you sir @onealfa.leo
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Thanks buddy.
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I find this challenge too much fun, @onealfa. The most exciting thing is, whoever has the answer must be very wise in choosing whether to share at once or wait.
I will spend a few minutes tomorrow, because it looks like a lot of fun. I already read the 3 spoilers and all the comments. lol.
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Even Google doesn't know ...
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LOL
If Google doesn't know what it will say about us mere mortals? Haha ha..
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Lolzzzz. A dilemma indeed. 1st you have to be smart enough to figure that out and then take your chances whether post your answer or not.
Let me give it a shot. If I get it, I wouldn't risk waiting.
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What if everyone's waiting for doubling? Hehe! Anyway - great contest. So far, I have no clue but I'm definitely coming back later.
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very interesting dilemma for the person that thinks he has figured it out, should he post the answer and get a smaller prize or should he wait and get a bigger prize ?
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That is exactly what I wanted the participants to come to ! 😃
The "right answer" will be considered only the one with a precise letter-by-letter matching. Including punctuations.
But if you get to it - you will know, will recognize it.
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I wish I had the time and the brain cells for this task but unfortunately I don't, but it's still fun watching things unfold :)
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I just saw this and was afraid someone already solved it. Apparently I didn't need to worry. That's good though because if I figure it out, I've already gotten past the first doubling. :-) Back to work....
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Very cool your creativity @onealfa! It’s always good to see new contests in the community and new users need that. Of course, the target is for everyone to participate.
Well, for me it gets a little more complex because as I do not know phrases or slang in English it is much more complicated for me but I will try to leave mine in the next few days. Who knows I'm lucky hahaha ...
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Still working on this. Lots of theories already tried and discarded but I'll keep trying. I am starting to wonder though if I might not be able to make more by putting my mental energies into more curation. lol It's fun though....
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It has been solved now. Read the top comment
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Trying to read up on all different ciphers. I will just sit this one out. Too nerdy for me.🤧
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Hide this from @fbslo. Lol
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Why ?
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He'll crack it in a min 😂
My money ser!
The fun increases with this - so even though someone finds the answer, he may not answer and rather wait - of course to be lucky to not have the answer from someone else.
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Spent 30 minutes trying to figure this out yesterday before the coffee ran out.
I am wondering if the phrase has to be made up of a series of complete words from those 24 words you listed @onealfa?
Or can it be made up simply from the 139 characters that make up those words, in any order?
That would make it even more devilishly difficult to figure out using only your mind 😂
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Your both assumptions are wrong.
There no one single word used in the secret phrase from the given starting strings.
There is no relations nor restrictions to the number of characters used in the answer phrase. It can use any alphabet character, as well as any common known punctuations.
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Interesting, thanks for the hints 🙂
I might have to try having another go at cracking this riddle.
It is a head scratcher for sure. I was thinking about it for ages this morning, then I realized I'd hit a brick wall and needed a break so I went and wrote a Leo post about the Ethereum EIP1559 update announcement to clear my mind.
Sometimes coming back to something with fresh eyes can help lol
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@raj808 you can try again and you get the chance to win at the awesome giveaway by @onealfa.leo
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it has been solved. See the top comment
Oh well... back to the drawing board ;-)
There's always a silver lining though, I can learn how it was done now.
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Very cool @onealfa, I guess I missed the boat though since there is a correct answer now... saw this yesterday and started trying to decode it but ran out of time and energy last night. Glad someone got it... I got as far as "Hold On For Dear Life" but that was more of an intuitive guess than breaking the code.
Hope you do something like this again!
=^..^=
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Scary Wife covers serious problem
Or
Hey Play tuck dance somewhere
Spend 20 minutes already. It was fun 🤩
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All puzzles are very very hard just need to understand then it's became easier. You don't need tools you just need @onealfa mind to solving this
Best of luck noting impossible in this world
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How to drive people crazy?
Offers $300 as a prize for solving a riddle...
A Leo powerful mind🔥
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I have this funny phrase
Scarry parent whistle serious problem
Damn. Just read the right answer in the comments. I had like zero chance of solving this. Congrats to the winner.
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This is a hard contest for a big win.
I think I'll give it a try
Good luck all. I don't even know where to begin with this.
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daddy foot problem clearly play
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After cracking my head for today, i go to sleep with my first trial
somewhere serious problem clearly scary
my answer '' wife warn daddy clearly serious "
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town warn serious problem surround