A Motivational (Mobile Friendly) Spreadsheet Tool for Reducing yer Expenditure....

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I’ve long advocated that people who can should reduce their unnecessary expenditures in order to save-down, invest more and realise Financial Independence as early as possible.

However, expenditure habits are hard to break. I know this from personal experience: despite being painfully aware of just how overpriced take-out coffee is, I have spent $thousands on my daily cappuccino I have spent $ thousands on them even since I started my early-retirement mission in 2014.

I can make up all sorts of excuses why: everything from work-stress to the need for (low quality) human contact during lockdown, but whatever the reason I’ve found myself in Costa or Nero’s on far too many occasions over the last few years!

So I’ve developed a little motivational tool to help me (and you) think twice about paying out £2.95 for a daily coffee, or paying out for whatever little unnecessary treat happens to be your weakness: Weekly Dominos’ or nail-bar trip? Monthly shoe-shop? Yearly holiday abroad?

Whatever your ‘unnecessary expenditure Achilles’ Heel’ happens to be, I humbly introduce to you the ‘[Daily Cappuccino](or whatever unnecessary item of your choice) relative to mobile phone life time expenditure calculator'.

My rational is that I’m never going to convince anyone to give up their mobile phone – I think it’s fair to say that’s an essential piece of kit for our postmodern society.

However, it is fairly pricey to run a mobile…. An unlimited data contract is pretty cheap these days – in the UK, you can get a SIM only unlimited 4G deal for £25 a month, but you have to add on about £20 a month to cover the cost of buying a reasonably nice phone every couple of years to get an all-in package of £45 a month – entirely reasonable for what you get and given how essential communication is, but also not super cheap for most people.

And of course, there’s always the desire to buy a nicer phone, or a 5G connection, so you could easily push that to £60 a month or more, but that desire gives my model here a bit more leverage.

Anyway, my motivational idea for getting people to cut down their expenditure is to get them to work out what they spend on ‘unnecessary’ items every day/ week/ month/ year (the period will vary) and then compare that to their mobile phone expenditure.

And then (and this is important) work out how many years it would take them, at their current salary, to work in order to pay for said items, and then you compare them.

The idea is that if you spend more on something which is unnecessary, compared to your mobile, and thus more years working to fund it, you feel like a bit of a twat, and so are more likely to stop spending that money on the shit you don’t need, thus saving more and retiring earlier!

Here’s an example:

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  • £45 a month on my necessary phone will cost me around £21.5K over 40 years, or it will take me 0.7 years working at the median net annual UK salary to pay for 40 years’ worth of phone use.
  • £90 a month on a daily cappuccino will cost me around £43K over 40 years, or it will take me 1.4 years to pay for 40 years’ worth of take-out coffees.

Now, I don’t know about you, but I look at the figures for the mobile phone and think ‘that’s OK – 0.7 years out of my total working time of 40 years to pay for something that essential, FINE! And £21.5K over a lifetime sounds perfectly reasonable.

HOWEVER, looking now at the cost of my daily cappuccino habit, it seems TOTALLY unreasonable that I should spend twice as much on this total non-necessity compared to the cost of the mobile, especially when it’s relatively easy to get that coffee for about 1/8th of the price if I just make it myself!

Link to the calculator

Here’s a link to the calculator. Why not add in your own unnecessary expenditures and tweak the variables to match up to yer own life circumstances?!?

It might just help shame you into spending less, saving more and retiring earlier!

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That's an interesting way to look at it. When I started reading I thought to myself "heck, who cares about 2€ or what ever a day" - but this way it really makes you understand how much of your time you are wasting to pay for stuff you don't really need.
Before the new lockdown, I made it a habit to get a coffee with my breakfast I buy from the bakery on my way to work. The coffee is reasonably good, but they also charge 2.19$ for it. Putting in these numbers, I would spend 19,360€ over a 40 year period to get a coffee that I could just make myself at home or once I get to work 5 minutes later. Definitely going to rethink that habit - thank you for sharing!

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Take-out coffee really is the thing - throw in a pastry and it doubles!

I will still buy take-out coffee, but it's no longer a daily habit, well not in Portugal - I'm now far too remote to make buying one every day feasible!

I did get into a routine once of just having one on Friday morning, a take-out that is, worked quite well as a compromise!

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if you spend more on something which is unnecessary, compared to your mobile, and thus more years working to fund it, you feel like a bit of a twat

I think you need to put in a macro where a box pops up saying "you're a twat" if it reaches over a certain amount of time to pay back that unnecessary expenditure!

For me, it would definitely be the car expenditure each month I'd like to chip down. Especially since March this year where we've started working from home but I guess it is essential along with the phone. Still feel a bit of a twat for having one but I did negotiate a good deal which reduced my expenditure by 10% each month. I've used the extra money to DCA with BTC so there's that!

So now, my red flag is, "how much will this hamper my sats stacking capability"!

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I think your commitment to stacking sats puts you in a good position to save.

The car IMO is really up there in the unnecessary expenditure charts, at least for people without kids anyway.

But it does depend on circumstance. I couldn't have moved to a new part of the country without one, and I need one now I'm a bit more remote, but for all my years in Surrey, close to London, a car would have just been a money sink I think.

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Yeah I do kinda need one even in my situation so it's a necessary but unnecessary evil! Que sera sera! Can't have it all!

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A good idea, but that only works if you really put the money aside that you didn't spend on coffee (or whatever your guilty pleasure is). Perhaps put coins in a jar or send the money to an old-fashioned savings account or whatever, but I'd do it immediately. And it's easier with a specific goal. Retirement fund in 20 or more years - that's nice but abstract. For the next mobile phone, perhaps even with a "perhaps I indulge myself then and get a nicer model than I would have normally bought" incentive (or for the nicer phone you would have bought anyway even if not needed, but can now do so without a bad conscience).

I'm quite a fan of the money in a jar strategy, or at least some kind of visual representation to demonstrate how you're saving money!!!

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I find the best plan is take the relevant sum out of my account the day I'm paid and put it somewhere else. Even better would be an automatic payment, but I quite like the ritual of transferring the money :) I take your point about having a nearer goal than a 20 year retirement fund, it's definitely a good idea, certainly to get you motivated, but I find that once I've saved the money, I'm really loathe to spend it!

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The biggest unnecessary expense I think from many people's budget is the monthly gym sub. I mean what's wrong with jogging outdoors or doing excercise at home? Or they can do what I do, don't exercise at all, they have no idea how much I save a year 🙂

I was guilty of that while I was in Hereford, but the gym did have a sauna etc. and I used to spend a good hour a day in there most days, so that was another guilty expenditure, but you are right, it is not necessary.

Now I'm more isolated it's so much easier to avoid that sort of thing!

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hmnnn this could be useful for keeping track of how much expenditure I am taking away from my retirement fund. Lol, given that the whole of my retirement fund/plan revolves around crypto... or winning the lottery I'm not sure how much difference it will make. It's a boom or bust plan 🤣

In all seriousness tho, I can't stand making spreadsheets so I'll download this and see what I can figure out. There is so much unnecessary expenditure in life that could be avoided. Cheers for spreading the spreadsheet joy m8.

You can't stand making spread sheets, what's wrong with you man?!?

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I know... I've got a screw or two loose 😂

Building spread sheets just gives me a headache lol

Wow, this is an that comes just right in time, thou am still much younger but I really see the need to cut my daily , weekly and monthly expenditure , thanks for that example

You don't realize how much it is until you calculate a monthly and a yearly expenditure. Then you are shocked. Imagine how much people are spending on cigarettes, alcohol, not to mention other substances. I gave up coffee two years ago, don't even want to think how much it's been per year, although I've been always making my own coffee.
This is a good eye opener. Thanks for the tool.

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You need a $5 jar - put that in every couple of days for the coffee!

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But part of the coffee experience is going to your local cafe, getting out and chatting!

Don't do it to save a few quid. Focus on increasing your income instead ;)

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Well of course if you're using your coffee shop to better fuel your productivity, I'd count that as investment, which is a whole other ball game!

Personally I'd go for increasing my income AND drinking less coffee, or less take-out coffee.

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I spend a lot, but nothing compared to bad investments. Sometimes investing in yourself and loved ones increase prodoctivity and helps avoid bad investments.

Well of course saving money and investment doesn't necessarily save you from losing the money!

Maintaining social networks is a valuable use of your time, but you can do that without spending too much money!

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Those little expenses later mount up to become big. I think most times many want to reduce or cut down their unnecessary expenditure but just as you said, excuses and reasons keep coming up preventing them to do it.

It is very easy to get into negative habits!

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And difficult to leave them

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Nice post, thanks!

I was always a bit taken aback by your coffee expenditure (really? how much)? Not just the amount of money but because you were so frugal in so many other ways! I appreciate the stress management aspect, though - in the most difficult job I had, I spent an inordinate amount on nonsense just to get through. It took me a while to realise I could get a much less stressful job on a lot less pay and still be better off. I do like going to a coffee shop now and then, though, it's a nice treat.

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I think everyone's got their achilles heal I guess mine was just take-out coffee, I'm over it now, i use a stove top pot, quite nice actually!

There is certainly something to be said for low-stress jobs especially when the stress costs you money!

Coffee shops are a nice treat every now and then, but best in moderation for sure!