BNB - Still worth Buying? Or should be looking for the next DEFI coin already? (Rune/ Leo?)

in LeoFinance3 years ago (edited)

You may have missed out on getting in early, or at least early-ish on BNB, but is it still worth buying even now, now that it seems to have taken a breather around the $300 mark?

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Unlike so MANY other coins, there is a pretty straightforward use case for BNB - it powers Binance Smart Chain (Bsc), the cheaper, albeit more centralised alternative route into DEFI - which allows you stake several (binance wrapped) versions of coins in vaults or pools to earn interest, in various DEFI tokens run on Bsc.

For an overview of the opportunities see this post by @dalz.

The BNB price could easily carry on going up

Because BNB powers the Binance Smart Chain you need to spend it every time you make a transfer, stake, harvest, or withdraw tokens from one of the several DEFI projects on offer.

And it is several times cheaper than Ethereum, which means it's much easier to make more transfers and pool and re-pool your assets at shorter notice, unlike with Ethereum where frankly I'm scared to do anything with less than $1000 and once I've pooled something, I kind of feel like I've got to leave it alone for several months or I'll lose all my gains in gas fees.

in short, you can actually use Binance Smart Chain because of the lower fees!

And with all the pooling competition (just see pancakeswap as an example) this creates more pressure to move around coins to get the best return - keeping the use of BSC high.

It's simply the cheapest and easiest way to make a return on all the BTC/ alt coins you've got lying around.

BNB in particular just seems very well positioned at the moment to take some of the market away from ETH going forwards into 2021.

On top of this Binance has a buy back and burn scheme with the profits it makes - there are currently 170 million in circulation, and there's another 70 million going to be burned, last quarter they burned 3 million BNB. That's around 1.5% the entire supply in a three month period.

And there are some very good returns ON BNB - locking them up in pools.

And of course it's worth holding SOME - because you need it for fees!

Factors that could keep the price down

There will be a limit to how far the price can pump - the price you pay for transactions is in BNB - so it might be 10 cents for a transfer now, but if it trebles in price - that's 30 cents - meaning eventually transactions will decrease, and so will the capacity for an ever increasing price.

People may be put off by the more centralised nature of BNB - it's not Ethereum, and in the longer term I imagine ETH 2.0 is going to blow this out of the water.

Other competition which could overtake BNB, for stake and return purposes, are RUNE and even HIVE/ LEO if we could sort DEFI out here.

Rune has the huge advantage of your not having to wrap tokens before staking, or at least it will once it launches proper - middle of this year hopefully, and if we could just get DEFI on this platform - no fees!

Final thoughts

I'm undecided as to what my strategy is going to be with BNB - I'm certainly NOT selling what I've got at the moment, I will probably keep an eye on the price and IF it's dipped when I sell some of my harvested coins, buy a little more, if it's on a tear at the time just go buy whatever else looks like it's a bargain!

TBH I can't predict what's going to happen to the price in the long term - I don't think it's a long-term sell - BNB kind of screams to the public 'come buy me' - it's like it is now set to be the public face of crypto with its link to the Binance exchange - even though I guess to the decentralist crypto purists it's a bit of a no-no!

At the end of the day, my heart says 'buy more Rune' my head says 'this BNB shit is going beyond Ethereum'.

Maybe I should do a Rune BNB pool?

Why is it that whatever crypto dilemma I have these days I seem to come up with 'pooling' as the answer to that dilemma.

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Naa forget BNB Hive and hive-engine are where it's at. xD

Well I'm not betting against Hive-Engine for the long term!

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Why is it that whatever crypto dilemma I have these days I seem to come up with 'pooling' as the answer to that dilemma.

You know on Balancer, although on ETH, there are pools with up to 8 coins in a pool :)
That might solve all the dilemas

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Wow! The only problem is the fees - I guess you need at least $2000 of each coin to make using anything worthwhile!

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I'm currently trying to get my head around DeFi, MetaMask and Liquidity. It's hard going and complicated. You do seem very switched on about all this.

I wrote a post about it a while ago - scroll back and you'll find it - I linked to Empoderat's post in which he describes how to link BSC to metamask.

It took me a few days.

Also check out the Thorchain tag - for how to stake to BEPSWAP with Rune etc.

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My intuition is that BNB will tear up to $1000 after this little breather, take Cake along for the ride, and then when THORCHAIN launches in summer RUNE will moon hard to well over $50.

The chicken livers clearly show this too.

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Which RUNE do you mean, the ERC20 version or the other one?

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Just RUNE not the ERC20 version.

You can stake RUNE on BEPSWAP

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/thorchain/

https://chaosnet.bepswap.com/

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I have a hard time to decide what I should think about BNB. Like you say they have a solid use-case, but it's not one token with big transperancy.
No matter what I think it has had a crazy ride last couple of weeks

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Regarding transparency that's one thing I need to do more research on!

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I am tempted to get more rune! I think there might be a surge prior to and after the mainnet launches and who knows, it could be the next biggy

The way to do it maybe is asymmetrically pool with USDT on chaosnet

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Why does that reminds me of Scotty talking to Kirk on the bridge of the enterprise about how he can get more juice out of the engines? 😃

Because it's also not real?

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Lol. Indeed!!!!

I remember when BNB was like $3. Grrr. I am such an idiot! I am looking forward to some of these other pools opening up that are going to be far easier for me to access.

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I think I would go with rune. It is relatively cheap when compared to BNB. It is decentralised. But I think BNB has the potential of even reaching $1000. Money or fundamentals? That's the dilemma.

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$1000 wouldn't surprise me with BNB at all - especially with the burn rate.

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You and I FAM have very similar thoughts, except that I bought 50$ bnb at $340 after selling the 1 piece I had held since 30$ at $50. Yeah who did that? me. I did! I've made up my mind to hold that 50$ in bnb for the longest time possible.

There will be a limit to how far the price can pump - the price you pay for transactions is in BNB - so it might be 10 cents for a transfer now, but if it trebles in price - that's 30 cents - meaning eventually transactions will decrease, and so will the capacity for an ever increasing price.

Well, 30cents is still way cheaper than what Ethereum charges. Perhaps the limit you talk about will be at 900$. The only threats I perceive are the new chains like Rune or perhaps Hive/leo offering better options. But then again, while Binance is not Ethereum, it sure does have more reputation, attention, and userbase than Rune or Hive/Leo, maybe these don't really matter though.

I had a friend call me about where to invest $1k in crypto, I had the thought of suggesting bnb. But I told him RUNE. So I hope I'm right...

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Based on my own experiences I'm reluctant to move money about for more than a 10% fee - even if I'm taking hundreds in profit.

I still think there is plenty of room for a price increase.

If I had nothing I probably would have said 30% RUNE 30% BNB to play with the pools 20% BTC because you have to and 20% Hive/ LEO so you can at least have a stake here.

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I will keep my BNB in BSC DeFi at least until ETH 2.0. In summer EIP 1159 could be released but I don't know how much the fees will be but we should pay attention.

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The full ETH 2.0 release isn't until 2022 is it?

I need to learn more about the stages that build up to it.

It wouldn't surprise me if there's a pull back out of eth given all these competitors, then back up again once it sorts itself out.

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Yep, at least 2 years but EIP-1159 is a short-term solution but I don't know how good will be.

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This. Still think it’s best option out there with gas the way it is

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It isn't over for BNB. There are new projects likely coming for BSC considering the lower fees. With regards to LEO, that's what I am looking forward of.

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I feel a bit safer on LEO too!

When it comes to centralized exchanges, i do like Binance and the things they're coming up with. One way to look at it is to compare it with Coinbase's valuation:
https://techcrunch.com/2021/02/22/if-coinbase-is-worth-100-billion-whats-a-fair-valuation-for-stripe/

It has gone up way to fast though. Expecting some profit taking.

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I can't blame anyone for taking profit atm!

Hmmmm...I'm pooling RUNE/USDT right now as I didn't want the BNB price risk. The BNB moonshot happened, time to gamble on FMT (though that moonshot may be done too) and others like EGG, and so on.

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I hear you!

Although I actually un-pooled some of my USDT/ RUNE - the Rune price is looking pretty robust.

I think I just missed Solana.

I am keeping an eye on BNB and if it reaches the price mark of $150 then will buy for sure. Hope it happens so that I can bag some BNB.

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Best of luck to you, on the up again now though!

yeah. looks like luck is not my side. :)