How much is a regret worth?

in LeoFinance3 years ago

I have been around a little while and one of the things I have always found interesting is when people pride themselves on not spending any of their fiat money to grow their account, as if it is a badge of honor. I understand it of course, as it makes it feel "organic" but, this is crypto, the purpose isn't to earn money and take it out to fiat, it is about building usecase to bring fiat into crypto.

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Part of this is in the literal sense of taking the wealth we already have and demanding different with it, demanding what crypto has to offer, rather than putting the money into the same traditional wealth mechanisms that have created the world and the economy we have now. Once that demand starts to shift into the new economy, it starts to build an economic mass that has demand power, meaning that businesses start wanting a piece of the crypto pie and building new goods and services on the blockchains to capture it. This in turn generates crypto wealth directly, that adds more demand value on the blockchains, attracting more developers of goods and services and of course, participants at all the levels.

In time, this leads to many people having a growing amount of crypto wealth and looking for ways to use it and generate more, or consume more directly with it - which enables the support of more business models and a widening pool of participants. In not too long, a sizeable shadow economy has been created that is somewhat self-sufficient and running alongside the traditional, forcing businesses to either split their products to cater for both, or make a choice.

With limited resources, a lot of new businesses will make the decision for the shadow economy, especially since many of the founders will be crypto literate, since they will be the current younger generations who are uptaking it quickly and not only earning, but using too. This means that less new models will cater for the legacy users on the traditional economy, and it will slowly suffocate under the weight of itself, or make the move to close the gap and light the shadows.

So yeah, I find it weird that more people don't actually buy-in to crypto places where they earn, but not only for this reason, but because these are the places they actually use. I find it funny that some people will happily post about how much BTC or ETH they hold, but have no HIVE. Sure, you can see it as an investment decision based on their expectation, but the same people want to earn HIVE on their posts too, as does everyone - they are here using it, why not encourage others to as well?

But it isn't just on HIVE, people do the same on Splinterlands too, and everywhere else. I agree, people should be putting in the effort to participate and this is definitely true for those who can't afford to buy. But for those who can, why wouldn't they be investing into an industry that they believe is going to make a difference in the world - why didn't they buy HIVE at 10 cents 10 months ago? Is everybody so incredibly bad with their money that they have no change to spare for a place they are spending their time in? Most people buy a coffee when they go to a café, yet people spend hours here daily and nothing?

This of course doesn't mean they don't expect to be rewarded for their time here, as what they give to the community is so incredibly valuable that they deserve votes, even though they do not give a toss about voting others. There is a reason that people with stake often get some support here, and that is because they have shown that they are invested in Hive, whilst those who were earning and are constantly selling, tend to lose their support over time, because the inverse is true.

In my opinion, the future economic conditions are going to be heavily affected by crypto tokenization, and crypto is about taking ownership, not just of tokens in the hope that they go up in value, but of what we use and is important to us - turning them into personal assets. Social media isn't going away, what is going to change is that the users are going to have the possibility to own their accounts, the applications they use, their follower lists and all other forms of tokenized assets and, be able to monetize them in various ways.

Sure, it is possible to earn a bit of stake and possibly even get a fair amount over time, but if looking to actually be an owner in the future, it makes complete sense to empower that ownership by investing now. I am not saying just into HIVE of course, but crypto in general. If you think you know what you are doing with crypto, have the means to invest fiat and aren't - do you really know? Sure, you might have a massive stake in crypto already and adding a bit more fiat doesn't move the needle - but if you don't....

For me, I have taken a hybrid approach on crypto, where I first started earning an then started buying on top to empower and speed my ability to have a sizeable stake in the future that I can use to encourage more development, more growth, more participation. I am spending less and less in the traditional economy and more in the blockchain communities each day and eventually, I hope the majority will follow suit.

It is an interesting conflict though, when people are unable to buy crypto in their life while living in places and living lifestyles that suggest they should be able to put even a little in. This suggests that they may not be so great with money, which means that unless they change their habits, there isn't a lot of point in giving them any more. At some point, it is like enabling an addict by providing them their drug of choice, in the hope they will clean up their act.

It is not my business to tell people what to do with their money, but it is my choice what I do with my own - as it is for each of us. I have made some terrible financial decisions in the past, but by far the biggest of them has been, not investing into what I consume. The rich get richer, because they invest into what we use and if you want that to change, you are going to have to take ownership of something for yourself.

Most will just be left holding regrets.

How much is a regret worth?

Taraz
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In the past I have stopped giving votes to some that have made a conscious effort to tell me (and others) they have never spent a penny. Why the fuck should I use my stake on them?

If they keep that information to themselves then I won't know any different.. so if you (the reader) have this boastful claim about keeping all your cash in the fiat world.. then put a stopper in your mouth or go to Facebook.

My bank gives me 0.10% interest and charges me for holding my cash. I keep as little as I can in fiat, and send it out from here only when I need it. Why is it so great to hold fiat?

It's 2021 people, not 2007 any more. I loved it when I was getting a 12% return but those days are gone and will likely not return.

Why the fuck should I use my stake on them?

Because the content is so valuable it deserves to be paid for!

Why is it so great to hold fiat?

It is funny that while people espouse crypto for votes, the hold all their crypto in fiat :D

It's 2021 people, not 2007 any more. I loved it when I was getting a 12% return but those days are gone and will likely not return.

People seemingly still live the lessons of their grandparents - you can save yourself to wealth. Other than a little working money for incidentals and unexpected events - holding cash is a killer.

People seemingly still live the lessons of their grandparents

So many are still living in the past, and an equal amount living beyond their means. I have a job, it's a different kind of 'job'. If I can get another of my regular contracts then I will take it, but on my terms. That's working from home 100%.

A job is something a lot of people who join Hive seemingly aren't able to get or hold down.

There was one guy from Sweden who was constantly complaining about not getting votes and literally at times, begging for money - which some people gave him. Sweden is similar to Finland - jobs are there for those who want them.

He has since gone on to rape LEO and any other thing has been able to, while literally gambling here tens of thousands of HIVE away in the last year, still complaining about not earning.

Still powering down.

Investing and being invested, surprising question being raised how many realize at all that being invested into Hive they are part owners.

Taking fiat 2014/5 into crypto projects is how I started out, nothing grows overnight. Not being a trader where people may hold a great variety to buy/sell making or losing small amounts becomes a business of it's own.

Holding a bit of both, fiat investments growing to enable living now, crypto to hold into the future, the change will come, being prepared is sound advice, take some fiat and invest, become invested treat both equal!

@tipu curate

surprising question being raised how many realize at all that being invested into Hive they are part owners.

I am not sure if they realize, nor what ownership means. It is interesting that people complain about censorship, but don't want to be part of protecting themselves.

Hybrid is definitely a good approach for many for now - but it won't be for long. Soon it is "crypto or die" from an economical view.

Invest in what you consume. That is probably the best advice I have heard. I have made mistakes, but, I feel like I am going in the right direction.

If you are looking for me, I'll be Hiving. ;))

When I read things like this, I feel like we are a little bit ahead of the curve, just by being involved here.

Forbes did a poll of mostly banking executives and (not surprisingly) most think bitcoin and digital assets could replace fiat currencies (U.S. dollar) within the next five to 10 years—a shift described as "seismic."

Yeah, no kidding. I can only imagine the panic. The writing is on the wall. It has been and the wider and wider the adoption becomes, the quicker it will happen. They said 2050 to be 100% changed over, but, sooner is more likely.

Invest in what you consume. That is probably the best advice I have heard.

I think it makes sense. I wonder what my financial life would be like if I invested into Google (been using it from the very first invite only times), Amazon, Netflix etc... Probably different.

most think bitcoin and digital assets could replace fiat currencies (U.S. dollar) within the next five to 10 years—a shift described as "seismic."

When the politicians are saying it is a scam (Trump) and then in the next breath complaining that it could become a reserve currency and threaten the dollar, the banks are already well aware.

While the banks are aware, I will agree with that, people are much slower to Pivot. That's where the Panic will be. I think Americans are so slow to change.

I think Americans are so slow to change.

I agree - but normally they can catch up fast - but that is because they have an economy to lean on. This time, it might be different.

This time it will be different. You have definitely hit the nail on the head.

I have always found interesting is when people pride themselves on not spending any of their fiat money to grow their account, as if it is a badge of honor.

I pride myself for being here so long. It took a while. I had good and bad times. But I am still here. And financially now is the best time to be here. I am glad that I stayed returned here every time.

why didn't they buy HIVE at 10 cents 10 months ago?

7 months is also not bad
That reminds me of someone. 😜

There are better times to earn here - better times to buy here - funnily, the best time for both is when prices are down :)

When I started my crypto journey about four years ago I picked up some STEEM, but beyond that I didn't buy too much else besides Splinterlands packs with Paypal. It took me a while to really start to see crypto as an investment and it is only recently that I have started creating some regular buys each month just like I would assets in my traditional portfolio.

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There are many similar, but it also depends on when you got in and, how you played the game. Most of my crypto is from crypto one way or another, but it was the fiat in earl that gave me the start and the skin in the game to invest myself, time, effort and space to learn about investing myself more.

I wonder how many would be in completely different life conditions had they put in 20% of a paycheck in 2017/18/19/20... what would they have discovered by doing so when they lost the idea of "free money" and become actual investors?

It is part of the education of managing risk imo.

Oh yeah, for sure! If I had put more money into ETH back then or even just held what I put in I would probably be pretty well off right now.

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There is a reason that people with stake often get some support here, and that is because they have shown that they are invested in Hive, whilst those who were earning and are constantly selling, tend to lose their support over time, because the inverse is true.

If only there were other metrics right on posts besides just reputation that would allow us to easily see who is in it long term and who is just sucking out value without giving anything back... Would not only be useful when deciding who to upvote, but would also give feedback to those who aren't getting upvoted about what they can do to change that. Nudge them toward more understanding of what is going on here.

As it is now, I tend to vote mostly for people I know or with decent reputation scores because that is the only metric that is readily available without digging into the blockchain, which I don't usually have time for.

Reputation doesn't mean anything on Hive - the metric is broken completely. A lot of people I have tried to help understand the platform from various perspectives, have thrown it back in my face in various ways. One person was saying how stupid I was for holding when they sold at the high. Maybe - but a couple years later we aren't at the next high yet - and I am 150K in value up since then and if it gets half way t where it was at the last ATH (other chain), it will be closer to a million. I wonder if they have turned their few thousand dollars into a million at that point - the chance was there, on Hive and off - but I can pretty much guarantee they haven't - as they are still complaining about their votes on Hive now :)

By participating in the community, you learn pretty fast who has a reputation worth supporting, but that number is meaningless and can do more harm than good. Have a look through the Trending pages and see who consistently gets comments on their posts is a better indicator.

For me one of the major hold backs is the need of having a KYC and a third party to trust. I have seen a little bit of the untrustworthy side of the exchanges, many of them have gone full on KYC, I was pretty much to late to get in on non-KYC exchanges. I do not like the Idea of giving over my personal identification to a third party that could then use and sell that information.

I know eventually I will need to use a KYC place, another need for a third party to have my information on file somewhere and tracking what I do. I know what happens when companies or company employees go rouge and sell your information, it is in the news everyday almost about another data breach for this company or that company, and I really do not like the idea of empowering another giant FB type company.

People talk about how difficult it would be for someone to pull another Justin Sun, in reality it would not be difficult at all. Look at how consolidated the gaming industry became, look at how consolidated the service providers of internet became, look at how consolidated web page hosting has become.

How long before the exchanges become consolidated down to three or four option? This is one of my concerns, crypto talks about removing the middle man a lot, yet there is now and for the foreseeable future a need for the middle man.

I do not like the Idea of giving over my personal identification to a third party that could then use and sell that information.

I don't either. I hope there are options in the future that are more accommodating in this area, but I think most at least will have to come in line to begin with, or stay very small.

I know eventually I will need to use a KYC place, another need for a third party to have my information on file somewhere and tracking what I do.

I also think there will be more new ways to KYC whilst still maintaining some level of security.

The consolidation of industry has been immense over the last two decades, but we are slowly moving toward breaking some of the near monopolies - but nothing happens fast.

I think the middleman is changing form too, as there are going to be DAOs in the middle, rather than companies. I think the DeFi pools hint at how this can happen.

I am hoping to be able to find a reasonable KYC place next year, but I am really not liking that most want a photo ID and that ID needs to be a drivers license.

Very well said. I own way too many shitcoins and not nearly enough Hive. Gotta do something about it!

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I have a lot of shit too - just waiting for a full bull to consolidate into a handful only - been holding some since 2017! :D

Yesterday my wife watching a NFT on beeple .The bidding price was 5 ETH and Gas fee was around $120 USD . I told my wife to create 3D and sell it on Hive NFT Showroom and those Gas fee worth $120 USD use it to buy some hive .

Crypto is fundamentally heading to new era of technology where the word so called 'Metaverse' will be introduced to the world in the wider way.

Today i found interesting post from @taskmaster4450le and deeply observed the new terminology called Metaverse .

I agree to believe holding or investing at least 25% in crypto as it directed to be the platform of future economy .Those never tried now ..obviously choose to regret later.

I think some people are earning pretty well at times on NFT Showrooms - it is a pity that more aren't using it and instead liking those 120 dollars in fees...

There are going to be lots of regrets in the future, as there always will be. I am not planning on having many though :)

In fact, I want to buy some HIVE to support HIVE, the blockchain and help my HP to increase. However, I haven't done it yet, I would like to grow my account on my own on the HIVE blockchain for now.

When did you first join the platform ?

Three and a half years ago.

January 2018 - I was on peakd and didn't see it before. So, you came in at the Steem high (it hit 8 dollars on Jan 4th), and then slid down for the next year and was around 13 cents or so. Didn't think about buying at any point? Then the Hive split and after the initial pump, dropped to 10 cents, not then either? After seeing the highs, and then the place still being here 3 years later, why not consider investing a little, just in case those highs return, considering we have been in a bear market for two years until this run started?

Just trying to understand.

I can say that I was trying to understand what this platform was in the first months after joining. I wrote some posts to gain HIVE and power up. Then I gave a break, wrote post from time to time. I didn't even know how to buy or sell crypto.

Later, I learnt how cryptos, wallets work. There some exchange sites came up in my country. 2021 is my most active year on HIVE thanks to Ecency App. I think I have much to learn.

Your opening paragraph sounds like my first six months too :)

I haven't used the Ecency app, is it good? Learning doesn't end here for a long time - it is the start of an industry - this also means that there is a massive amount of opportunity for those who do learn.

Yes, I like it. It makes me be active on HIVE everyday; read, comment and upvote posts with mobile phone. It is like Partiko. Do you know it? It is dead now.

Otherwise, I would open browser, write hive.blog or peakd to follow what happens on HIVE. I might have forgotten to open HIVE, that's possible.

Nice post, I equally got my regrets too an the most was not getting into the Crypto-space more earlier than I did, it's indeed regrettable but I console myself with the fact, that it's better late than never.
I intend exploring more of the space and try change those stuffs I got the ability to change... 💎🙌

Did you have the chance to get in and not take it - or is it just that you wish you had heard about it earlier?

I got the opportunity to learn but channel my efforts to trivial stuffs and now am just struggling to grow

Thank You to information.

I have been around a little while....This right here is a game changer and an eye opener...

but, this is crypto, the purpose isn't to earn money and take it out to fiat, it is about building usecase to bring fiat into crypto....Thank you

people pride themselves on not spending any of their fiat money to grow their account

Sounds like it's that "pay to win" thing, you're only doing it "properly" if you don't, otherwise you're "cheating" and that in this case is one downside of gamification XD