Marcus Aurelius' Cure for Seeking Validation

I’m recycling this idea from an old post because I learned a life hack that paraphrasing your own content over and over again generates you more money than coming up with something fresh. I'm experimenting with my shitposts so expect my inconsistencies being consistent here.

A.

"Most posts on Hive are not valuable or fall under quality content category because not everyone can be that excellent blogger that is going to generate traffic here." -someone from Hive said so in 2023 and they made this post.

Majority are just normal people getting rewarded for opinions/shitposts/stories that they know they won’t get any money posting somewhere else and that’s ok. We won’t get mainstream adoption if only people that can do good content get rewards here.

While we’re on the subject of what is a valuable content, that tutorial about how to navigate Hive or how to play this NFTgame on Hive has more value than a post that talks about what they did last week, their trip to X place last month, daily beauty routine or what they ate for dinner because after a day or three days, everyone else gets an amnesia and moves on to the next shitpost to celebrate.

But if you ask my unsolicited opinion, if a newbie were to come join the platform and learn the ecosystem, that tutorial for Hive posted weeks to months back will yield more value to that person, now multiply it with the potential of more people getting onboarded to the platform per month.

But being my own inner devil, here something I found comfort from Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

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If you really think your content has value, then not giving a fuck about critics is the way. It doesn't matter if the validation that comes in the form of votes or praises never come. Sometimes your stuff was shared in the wrong place and wrong time. So even if your stuff doesn't meet the standards of the place, it does not necessarily mean it's bad. If the content you created is inherently good, it will stand on it's own.

If this blockchain is around for decades, can you imagine your grandkids checking out how cringe their grandparent's blog here?

The post ended right here, the wall of texts below are just streams of disorganized thoughts.


II.

I never ask the reason why I get upvotes. I just assume by someone’s grace; they like me enough to keep me on their autovote list or random manual curators doing their curation rounds bringing along with their trail of upvotes. But the end point is, I don’t ask, I just assume, yeah maybe they like me or just thought my shitpost was worth the vote. It’s the same mindset when it comes to receiving downvotes, I just assume they don’t like me, don't like my stuff, or just getting some revenge downvotes for being in a downvote trail. Rewards are all fair game before the 7 day payout.

Let’s say your post generated 1$ worth of rewards, then the price of Hive dumped, so now your pending payout is hovering around 0.8$, the days passed by and you’re on the 6.5 day where Hive dumped even further that the pending payout is now 0.2$. Would you still blame the market forces beyond your control at fault here? That’s just the market doing it’s thing and the reward pool doing a daily tug of war as stakeholders get paid with their share of the inflation. Nothing before the 7 day payout is guaranteed to be yours.

C.

What about downvotes? Is this a malicious tool that needs to be removed because it makes people unhappy? This will be an evergreen topic on the blockchain as long as there are monetary incentives for your social relationships here. Because with downvotes, now people can say they hate you with feelings and you lose money. The emotional damage of being hated on facebook, twitter or tumblr can't compare to seeing how outside forces can influence your income.

Most can’t be bothered to use the downvote function because it would be in conflict with their main objective of earning in peace off the platform. But they will start to mind once their own content or identity gets stolen. It’s someone else’s problem unless it affects you directly no? What if your first introduction to Hive was a message from a stranger asking if it's really you posting on Hive? because that's actually what happens whenever someone fakes an account here and responsible curators have to go the extra minutes trying to reach the real person to downvote a post that may just be worth a few dollars.

We have the freedom given by the system to support stuff we like and don’t like. This is the consequence of decentralization where you can’t be totally inhibited from upvoting or downvoting the hell you want.

We got to give the account some benefit of the doubt that it might be legit when all signs and experience of seeing the same pattern happen point it's not legit. Curators that go beyond the see something they like click upvote are undervalued.

D.

If your mental health gets shaken from the downvotes and lack of validation, maybe social media was never the right place to begin with. Might be the right time to just do a cleansing from social media for the sake of your mental health or something. If you're affected by the lack of engagements under your post, you may need some time to reflect on your own content consumption habits. Why do you not comment on contents you pass by on any social media all the time? I'm sure you get plenty of that on your feed.

Because it's not engaging enough for you, you don't really like the content or author, or just don't want to be bothered because you like to mind your own business. That's what normal people do. But if you do get people engaging with you, for the love of engagement and appreciation, it wouldn't kill you to just upvote or make a small reply to acknowledge the commenter exists.

Ex.

Do you know how easy it is to get swarmed on other social media sites for having a different opinion? Damn easy and people don’t need convincing to go into those sites even if they get 0 dollars for their time liking or hating. Here, you can like, dislike, have a different opinion and still potentially earn if you’re with the right crowd.

Ferruginous

Hive’s secret marketing opportunity is mining the drama because it’s where you can see people say “I don’t give a fuck about your downvotes, I’m leaving” only to come back with a different account assuming nothing happened under a different pen name because they said they hate it here. If this was a regular social media site, people would just block others that have a differing opinion and have their peace of mind but nope, the blockchain being the blockchain means nobody gets censored and you can be as annoying as much as you want.

There is a monetary consequence to disapprovals and downvotes here, people’s sense of being hated and turn on defense mode get heightened because now that hate is a threat to their income and they need those $. People love drama, it’s no accident to see a lot of view under a controversial post but only a few comments on it because people lurk and want to see what happens next.

G.

9 to 9.8/10 of the time, all drama can be traced back to a post being downvoted and the argument about being censored is just a cover to the real cause for being upset, loss of potential income. Here’s a life hack that maybe some may not be aware of if you have a controversial take, just decline the rewards and keep expressing what you need to express to the void then hope someone notices it here. Everyone is still free to express their opinions no matter how controversial they are, the part where they have to be paid for having an opinion is just meh (my unsolicited opinion).

If you know your opinions/posts are worth more than the money this platform is providing you (and you’re being underappreciated), you’re being inefficient considering this place has low traffic. You should get out of Hive and spread your views off to some other social media sites with more traffic and see how much of your audience wants to pay you for having an opinion. No one gave me a tip after complementing their wedding photos on facebook but I can get 0.03$ worth of votes if I just said nice things under a post, and this is just my opinion being thrown out there.
1k words already and I haven’t even started with my original writing prompt. Ideas just flow when I write and it’s a mess inside this head all the time. I forgot my prompt.

Chupacabra.

A friend gave you a lottery ticket that’s guaranteed to win because the system is rigged. Your only cost is the time it took you to figure out the 6-digit number combination and submitting it on a specified date and time. You won a 100$. Now on your way to claim the prize, there has been a change in the actual amount you’re going to get because of taxes and the laws regulating lotteries had changed during interim. You’re now down to 70$ which was still fine considering you got the ticket for free anyway.

Your ticket had a small smudge of ink on areas where it shouldn’t, the ink used wasn’t black, and a small crumple on the edges and some characters on the writing faded. Not really the end of the world because the characters that earned you that win are still clear. There’s a 20$ penalty for having the ticket shown in poor condition. Still not a bad deal considering that 50$ of yours was handed free.

Upon review, only 4 digits were actually right and the total prize was reduced. Now you have 10$ to claim. A friend wants their cut because they rigged the system for you taking 50% off. Now you have 5$ to pocket from your trouble. But it took you 3$ of opportunity costs to be somewhere else for your trouble, had to miss work to claim this reward and etc. which kind of makes the whole ordeal probably not worth the trouble.

Perhaps your perception may have changed if the base amount was a million dollars. You’re probably more pissed at the idea that you thought you had this x amount expected only to be screwed by circumstances outside your control. And this is what the pending payout mind trap does, being too attached to a number that may or may not come. What is real is the digit that actually registers on your wallet thereafter.

I.

I think of upvotes on Hive are like that. Right from the start, when you’re given an account here for free, shitposting here gives you access to rewards. If you play the game and be good to the community, you get access to those social rewards and grow your network. If your blog looks crap, there’s a lesser chance that some would bother supporting that kind of content so you have to put pretty pictures and do some form of formatting to avoid making a wall of text (like this post). The friend that wanted 50% cut from your rewards are like the curators here where they keep 50% kickback for supporting you.

And some conditions are beyond your control which includes how reward distribution can be affected by the changes in the code or market forces outside the platform doing their thing. Nothing is guaranteed and when I mentioned about opportunity costs, I meant it as, you could be doing something else for your time with more secured streams of income but you chose the blog to earn approach despite this method of earning being an unreliable source of income stream. Yes, Hive upvotes are like that.

If you made it this far reading, thank you for your time.

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It took me a while to write a response here and I was honestly contemplating about your post. I have so many things to say about this but it's all just disorganized thoughts 😅 so I hope that you don't mind me writing some rants in your comment section about your points 😅

The way I look at Hive still doesn't change that much. I was here when I was just a student and it was a fun hobby, to channel my writing and sharing what I do with my life. Then I got sucked in and I guess I haven't been able drawing the line between hobby and something that makes me money. But I suppose Hive is those one of the things like hobby that makes you money?

I used to do fun stuff like asking people to downvote my post for fun and I was reminded that it's too silly or crazy. On top of that, there was a lil drama about it which I didn't expect😅 just shows how emotional people can be about it. And now I hear quiet collective voices to remove that downvote button again. I suppose once you're here long enough some things are just repeated of things that happened in the past and you become jaded?

Then when people see something "overrewarded", back in steem there, I saw one liner quotes that makes more than $100 even and I suppose the voters, whoever that was has the right to do so. There were a few smaller accounts like that which purpose was just posting quotes/ If only many people saw how things were back in the day, they'd flip out 🤣

I've been thinking about the idea of safety net lately and stream of stable income. In the past, I just have more energy to juggle between school, copywriting, whatever business venture I did and steem/hive but now it's like I just have no energy for anything and time feels very short 😅. Between hive and talking to my mom, that was it. Also gotta fix something with my mental health before I can go back in the world. These days slowly but sure I am getting there. I am basically going on these far adventure to give me a little shock to my system that if I can't live comfortably abroad, it means I have to level up my life. I have managed to live comfortably back home and bali but now, this foreign place tells me that I am too poor and I need to hustle 🤣- it's such a wake up call TBH and reminded me how unstable hive income can be- when you look at it from monetary perspective but if it's a place to share your journey, stories, and find friends to see and visit, I have to say that it's a nice place to be. Maybe one of these days I can finally visit PH 😊

Anyway, sorry for ranting here and feel free to downvote it 🤣

I hope that you don't mind me writing some rants in your comment section about your points 😅

This rant deserves it own post and I feel it adds more to the disorganized thoughts on a post that has disorganized thoughts. Any, one sentence can get me rambling about more paragraphs once I get into it and just start writing.

But I suppose Hive is those one of the things like hobby that makes you money?

I sum up Hive being all that and more. There's a lot of ways people can make money here while still pursuing a hobby just by exploring the hive engine projects and nfts. A hobby that makes you money is the go to motto I have for the place right now. But this idea can't be preached to everyone since it comes from a place where I can afford the time to have a hobby while others are in work mode trying to put food on the table over their posts.

And now I hear quiet collective voices to remove that downvote button again. I suppose once you're here long enough some things are just repeated of things that happened in the past and you become jaded?

I don't like people to delude themselves to believing they are liked or their stuff are liked. Because no one downvoted your post, does that necessarily mean no one dislikes it or thinks it's to overrewarded? If there was an experiment to keep accounts anon and the consequences null when downvoting, maybe everyone would get more downvotes but that's bad for user experience when the feature just brings out human nature.

Maybe one of these days I can finally visit PH

For the record, I read the entire paragraph but just wanted to highlight this part, please come soon, April 29, we're having a meetup 1st time since ever with HivePH, love to meet you in person and then I can lift up some baggage of being anon no more. As for the financial stuff, I hear ya, best not to talk about those topics to me unless you like to be depressed with reality, doom and gloom because I'm all about doom and gloom for visions about the financial future.

There were a few smaller accounts like that which purpose was just posting quotes/ If only many people saw how things were back in the day, they'd flip out

I'd be picking fights if I started noting which accounts post like their tweeting just to farm but a lot of the drama potential isn't worth it over a few cents or a dollar. I mostly just think it's none of my business how people want to use the platform because it's a whack a mole problem trying to accounts meant to game the system.

 last year  

😃 I read that in twitter and thought it was March and I was like, huh, did I miss it? but now I realize it's just 2nd of April and that means I have more time. Also These two filipinas I met convinced me even more that I can blend quite well 😂 so now I am more confident to go. Hopefully I can make it there 😁

Pumunta ka na sagot na ni @wittyzell ang foods!

Downvote ko to TP, coz this is such a fake news 😛

ay fake news ba? hahahaha

Let's go! Would be so happy seeing you there @macchiata.
After the meetup on April29, we're going on a trip, not all of us though, just few people.

 last year  

you're literally coming to Manila too?

Yep! I’ll be there 😆

 last year (edited) 

Random manual voters: Guilty as hell. Some train did follow me. Darn trains {LOL}

Engagement: Great advice, give a comment upvote even when this is a small one. Shows appreciation indeed. I mostly do this. In my daily curation rounds, I notice many post droppers, as how I call them. No comments done by the user, or just a few. Some of them complain why they don't get votes and/or comments under their own posts. Well, it's all about engagement. Only through engagement, we can get peeps to come to your blog and start appreciating what you publish. Many don't understand or don't want to know this. Personally, I rarely vote for a post when the users' post/comment amounts and frequencies are out of balance. I also like to see users to comments on other users' posts, not just respond to comments on their own posts.

Decline post value: Another great piece of advice! I think I never used that option, but then again, I may not have too controversial topics I blog about. I always have my 'nutty columnist' alter ego that I use whenever I try to be a bit more black/white in my statements ;)

And yes, I made it this far reading {LOL} I do believe HIVE shall never ever be the sole income for any individual. It is simply too risky. Any reward is nice but is never ever guaranteed. Better to see HIVE as a social platform with the interesting perk we also can earn real currency with it, in a more direct style than any other social media platform out there.

Engagement

The funny thing about trying to rake rewards here is that it's easy as long as one makes the effort to be a loveable chatterbox and be someone's fun company. Even if this is the truth that everyone needs to hear or has already heard true, it's a hard pill to swallow because this involves being at the mercy of someone else's approval and people don't like losing control. My votes are less about the content and more about the person, authenticity, understanding that users here know it within themselves they aren't the best but still know how to make effort being a teamplayer.

Decline post value: Another great piece of advice! I think I never used that option, but then again, I may not have too controversial topics I blog about. I always have my 'nutty columnist' alter ego that I use whenever I try to be a bit more black/white in my statements ;)

I do this rarely, figured since I gave my two cents on a subject that I deserve than 0.001$ upvote from my fans. My expectations are set low that getting 0.03$ is a real goal for every post as a minimum because that's the threshold for minimum payout. I do like to see more rant and controversial opinions on Hive more, more along the lines of telling the inconvenient truths that are bigger than raging at people for downvotes and censorship arguments.

Any reward is nice but is never ever guaranteed. Better to see HIVE as a social platform with the interesting perk we also can earn real currency with it, in a more direct style than any other social media platform out there.

Whenever I attempt to onboard someone or hear someone else onboarding, the prevalent question will always be "is the money here for real?", you get an algorithm in your headspace to counter every opposing argument and a ready answer for each rebuttal from naysayers.

Almost 5 years in the blockchain and I still recall how much I was skeptic about this place even 2 years into the blogging thing. But I found some other purpose in the platform, turns out when you upvote, give small words of encouragement here and there, people feel good about themselves and maybe get more motivated about life for the simplest gesture as a nice comment. You're doing a good job~

Vote Behaviours: I may have a biase towards team players as well as I have a bias towards effort as well as personal type of contributions (above quality: whatever that may be) when I vote. Though with my curie powers I try to be as objective as possible. Am quite critical. Though I spend most of my searching in the music side of things, my rules for what I vote is so heavy, most of days I don't find sufficient posts to vote for, so I search in other communities as well.

Rewards: 0.03ct as minimum 😂😂😂 I see sometimes some bots passing by to upvote a 0.01 or 0.02ct comment to the 0.03ct mark. In the past, these bots seem to be more active than lately. Or it's just my account that got a little less visible for these bots. Anyways, whatever. I try to have fun, and that is what is most important to me. The rewards are a nice bonus 🥳

Words of Encouragement: I suppose this counts for me as well. Trying to get a bit Buddishtic: Becoming Happy by Giving 😉 Can't say it's a purpose for me, but when I can find the time, I really like to read posts and write some meaningful comments. Hopefully with some humour in it as well, since anything serious needs humour. Uhm, no humour on this comment though, but some laughs at least 😉

Thanks so much for your extensive response! Appreciate this very much 🙇 "Good job" 😆😆😆

I got busy with a lot of things that I forgot to give this a reply. Not that I didn't see it the first time, I just got preoccupied until it's already passed 7 days. I used to be picky with the authors I vote and their content but stuff just changed when I wanted to accept people's normalcy, there's just too few that can make good content but everyone wants those votes. It is heavy on the curator's part especially when they have a substantial amount of power to decide whether the author can have a meal (an expression brought to the extremes but 1$ is more than enough for a few cups of coffee here, 15 cups of instant coffee). Value is relative. To some, long winded comments don't mean anythign if there are no large votes that come after, but to others, the long comments are what they really needed to hear to change the course of their actions. If a curie curator never bothered to encourage me to blog, I probably quit early since the legacy chain, I wasn't even invested in the upvotes or rewards, I just want to post art sketches way back. And maybe that's just that, you never know how a compliment was enough to change the course of someone's life or an upvote. Thank you for your time.

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ps trying one of my shortest comments ever - oops, not the shortest anymore for sure 😂

Kewk, i find myself doing super *high-end post. Avoiding splitting my work across multiple update blogs.

This is just a me gripe but, i want to create drawings and animations that i can look and watch all the time. Including the hilariously bad animations i made back then.

Because most of the art i made up making either have nostalgic and or sentimental value. It might be a reference to a game, friend or music i really like. Giving it my all and i shall keep it very close.

*Spending 20-100hrs on a animation. You bet my takure that im going to keep it near and dear to me.

Better to make 1 Amazing thing that i will carry on for the rest of my life rather than 99 doodles I'll forget about next month.

So far in hive blog, the thing i value the most are the comments and people. So thanks for the comments and upvotes @adamada .

UwU, this comment was made on PeakD.

*PEAKD SUPREMACY!

The one thing I noticed about your blogs are the amount of effort it takes to design the format and make the actual content. I don't have that patience to make my blogs pretty so format/composition of a blog is one of the first things I'd notice in an author. Maganda animations mo Taku.

Most people are emotional beings. If they see a downvote, they think they aren’t good enough. They won’t immediately think that the person who downvoted them doesn’t like them.

We can’t blame them.

Some people feel validated when they see they are being praised for their high upvotes, or great engagement in their posts.

It’s not the end of the world for them when an outsider sees it but for them, their efforts seems not paid for.

People like to compare themselves with others so seeing others’ post getting high upvotes, they’ll think why not me too, or why wasn’t my effort not good enough.

Anyways, this has also become a disorganized comment hahaha and I don’t know what I’m rambling here at almost 3am in the morning when I just woke up LOL

But my point is: some people haven’t learned yet to not be so emotionally invested in stuff and how others see them is their validation in life. If they know their self worth, they won’t be bothered by others. If they stop being so emotional in everything, probably life is better for them.

Anyways people have different upbringing, different perspectives on things, different personalities, and different reasons to here.

Okay now I’m so confused because I don’t know my point anymore 😂

But anyways, if people stop comparing and just appreciate what they have, maybe, who knows, … ewan hahaha

They won’t immediately think that the person who downvoted them doesn’t like them.

I think the common occurrence is the opposite of this. Maybe you're hanging out on the chill side of Hive.

People like to compare themselves with others so seeing others’ post getting high upvotes, they’ll think why not me too, or why wasn’t my effort not good enough.

Hindi ba ako worth it? madali lang ba ako maisantabi? nag effort naman ako? saan ang hustisya? luh, even if I can understand their point of view, I can't sympathize with this line of thinking. I had to earn my audience first and this took a lot of time and effort, hearing these lines just ticks my entitlement flags but I understand everyone goes through that phase here until they figured out what they want to do and can do to bring the results they want. Those that fail just quit.

Maganda mag ramble post witz, try mo pag may time.

Alam ko ginagawa mo tong posts mo nang installment so installment ko rin binabasa. haha. 1/3 na nababasa ko. Nakarelate ako sa excerpt from Marcus Aurelius. This is the main reason I teach my kid the value of self love and self validation.

Most people tend to be emotional upvoters. It sometimes make them emotional too about downvotes. Aside of course sa obvious reason why they feel bad about it, some people nalulungkot kapag they find out someone dislikes them.

some people nalulungkot kapag they find out someone dislikes them.

And they can't bear to let the truth sink in, that they are also guilty of the same dislike for others but not tell the person they dislike openly. It happens for everyone and it's just dumb to think of one as an exception. #sanayna

 last year  

This was quite the index of extra stuff lol, I liked the chupacabra section.

Yeah my philosophy for content is that I find it helpful and valuable to write so I will write and I don’t really care if people like the content or not. I won’t be writing things that I think are stupid but I’ll write what is good for me to do. If it’s rewarded great, if not oh well.

I figured sectioning the post with A to F was boring so adding some randomness was the experiment because only people that will read will notice this. I go by three rules when shitposting, I must find the subject interesting for me, and there's some lesson behind to take away from the post at least one line or paragraph, then a warning label that says this section will waste your time so I don't have to feel guilty sharing disorganized thoughts because that's exactly what they're going to get when they push through. But yeah, the cure for seeking validation is humbling oneself for whatever beauty they create from within because misery comes when the locus of control is shifted away from self love.

Half way will continue to read later, longest post I've read. haha

Kaya mo yan~

I love your ramblings. Chaos makes excellent sense to me.

Quid pro quo :-)

I tried recording myself and my ramblings. It sounded like I love my own company and hate it at the same time. It's a weird feeling.

Great write up and overview of Hive! Those are many things to consider for sure. Definitely quality is in the eye of the beholder and a subjective thing plus everybody is at a different stage if their blogging/social media journey. I also like to read opinions/views etc from people especially that differ from the mainstream. It is so dull to meet someone and they can only regurgitate the opinions they have just read in the news without any critical thought of their own.

The blockchain gives you some insight as to how the social rewards change people's behavior. There was a point when I would get more active with the challenges and contests being run on the blockchain, do this and that because everyone's doing it cause it just works, now found my stuff to do on the blockchain that only I can do which is more or less yielding me the same results with less stress. All in all, just post because you find what you share interesting and less about the attention it's getting, then bait like-minded people onto your discussion to have fun. Thanks for stopping by~

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