I. Onlyfans Hive
I’ve been reading some content again about Hive as a hobby or as a main income. To me, it’s something uncomfortable to talk about as the vibe that I get is either some argument about comparative advantage or that it’s not a stable income. But alright, let’s talk about it. I think the root of everything is just that money is always uncomfortable to talk about. But behind it all, why aren’t we comfortable talking about hive as a means of income when I see a tiktok, youtubers, or “creators” whichever platform they choose is making money and is fine with it. But it seems like there’s this uncomfortable notion that if you make money from hive.
In my eyes, even the seemingly stable job isn’t stable at all. You are still at mercy of someone’s kindness, judgement, whatever that is. Hence you see, I heard a lot of stories and experiences of bootlicking just to keep the job afloat. Whereas with independence, even as a freelancer, it’s not that different too. As a freelancer, you need to find customers, you have to make sure they’re happy, and such. Even business people can’t do anything without capital and the amazing workers that they have to keep the business afloat. And the common ground is that, We’re all here to survive this thing called life. Be whatever you want to be that keeps you afloat and never be ashamed of it even if you make money from writing content on hive.
II. What even is quality?
Sorry for the name drop but @adamada has a good point on this oneThank you for insipiring me to write this kinda rant :D .
Personally, I have two approaches to this. The first one is the common quality assessment that is used by SEO consultants to determine how good a content is. The quality is very technical and there’s something called KPI (key performance indicator) metrics based on the goal for the content. From my experience, I am normally handed some keywords to be put into the content that I work on,the audience, the topics and tags . They also make sure that the content I have is also neatly written and not riddled with grammatical errors and even typos; certainly unlike these rants. Based on my experience, judging on the things I see on hive, it’s just… no comment 😀. Even from the eyes of SEO practices, some of the URLs aren't PR (page rank)friendly. The second approach that I have is mostly a kinder version and less technical. As long as it’s personal, informative, and you can form your own thoughts and opinions (positive or negative) then to me, you already win here. Effort would be decent pictures, well-formatted content and I’d appreciate if anyone just go straight to the point and not saying “ I hate this” into a 100000 paragraph where first you narrate the story that you go to the market, then you meet up with a friend, and eventually you find that you hate the movie you’re watching. However, data says that longer content makes more on hive so, maybe that’s why gotta fill all those words until it reaches 400000 words.
III. To curate (consume )or To create?
… depends really but whatever your goal is, I just think that we certainly need more consumers 😀 or maybe a healthy creator-curation too? I am not talking about curation from a bigger group or projects but person to person. It is a situation where if you like someone’s content, maybe leave a comment or leave an upvote or a downvote if you hate it. For me, though I may not comment but my upvote just says, I dig this content but if I leave a comment that means I really love it and it’s very engaging to me.
IV. How to sell out?
I have no idea how to sell out but there should be a tutorial, JK!
But really, I think that “engage more and show up” is also a part of how to make it anywhere. There’s really nothing instant even on Hive without of course, if you have previous social currency or again or maybe some capital. That definitely boosts your presence everywhere and well, hive is just like any other place there is.
V. 👏 We👏 Can’t 👏 Always 👏 Please 👏 Everyone
What if we get a downvote by someone for no absolute fucking reason? Leave it be… I guess they just don’t like our vibe and if you plan to retaliate though, think twice maybe? Is it worth the energy or not? Is it a life threatening situation or not?
VI. Be a good citizen?
Apparently I find that not everyone has some common sense and morality is subjective right here. I think it’s because we come from different cultures and well, obviously we have rules here and there. But sometimes that just doesn’t translate well or is accepted. So I don’t know, just co-exist and be fine if someone is kicking you out because you don’t comply with the rules that are written in the community or places you’re in. No Drama :)
VII. Vibes
Most of the time, I can tell people just based on how they reply to me or others. Some people just have that weird vibe and I would avoid interacting with them. Back to number V anyway. Also you’re valid to think that I have bad/good vibes as much as it’s valid for me to judge if you have good/bad vibes.
VII. When to serious when to fun?
I am fairly serious especially when I was given the trust to do something. I work based on rules that are set and the expectations that arise with it.
I honestly don’t believe in second chances but I learned more about compassion lately and a bit more empathy as I get humbled by life 😀.
I also take life a bit less seriously because I just see unfairness everywhere and it’s not something I can’t really fix at a bigger scale. It’s just there, you know.
When I do something, my answers are pretty obvious, it’s because “ that’s the rule” but sometimes it’s just exhausting to explain it a dozen times to people who can’t grasp it. I don’t like repeating myself too and hate when it happens 🙂.
But I also know when to have fun. There’s time for everything and different cases, different stories, that kind of thing .
VIII. Frequency of Content
I don’t know why this rambling gets here but it’s also something I hear quite often when someone comes and asks, how many content should I write?
If you can shit content for every hour, do so and if you just really like doing it, why not?
There’s really no rule and again, it all boils down, what do you want to get out of it? Like in social media people make content a few times a week, scheduled because they have brand deals etc. They are very organised and such. But here, maybe you don’t do that and it's for luls, then shit content every couple of minutes, that’s fine too!
IX. Closing
Ah well.. I got distracted as I had to reboot my semi-broke down laptop. Then, my train of thoughts are replaced by other ideas and now here we are. Maybe another time when I get into rant situation, I’d better type quicker so that nothing gets lost or maybe try newer techniques 😀
I think having fun and creating content you enjoy is key, as forcing yourself to create content you're not passionate about is tiring, and will lead to burn out, also I think readers can tell when someone isn't into something.
You're right about the fequency, if someone can, they should post as much and as often as they want. Although, I think 1 post a day, and then take all other spare time and use it to curate, or perhaps post on Leo Threads. I think exploring new communties, and finding new creators is fun. Especially when you find a gem of an article that is really engaging.
Also, curating seems to be the best way to meet new people, compared to creating content.
One thing I've been thinking about recently, and I haven't written a post on it, because I hate talking about money, (I know, the money we earn here is a bonus, and not a garentee.) But, I think there should be a curation trail that focuses on middle of the road accounts, who aren't big and aren't small. A way of looking after and rewarding accounts who are keeping their stake powered up, and who are trying to grow. Obviously, solely if they are creating good content.
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I know that so well because I used to work as copywriter but writing about the things that I am not super passionate about. Anyhow, at the time, I wasn't in the position to be picky about what I can choose or clients I work with. It was hell and sometimes I don't even enjoy writing it.
The thing is that we have to get used to short content as you see, in other social media, short content gets likes, engagement. If someone says anything stupid, it can be elaborated more later but what gets engagement are sometimes those sort but outrageous claims or opinion. Yet data on Hive just says that longer content still makes more as you see in this data.
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@dalz/hive-posts-length-or-what-is-the-average-word-count-or-are-longer-posts-rewarded-more
Honestly, I heard similar thing and tried something as well but won't go into detail here. I mean, it's a good initiative because there are user who have their stake powered up but sometimes can be an underrewarded authors but they're engaging and their content is great. They're not necessarily getting lower amount but still would deserve more as they powered up, and contributed at some point to the community as whole. I am also on lovesniper which focuses on newbie and all that but I think like you, a balance should be there.
OMG, there are so many important things in this post that I don't even know where to begin....
I don't understand much either that we can't say we see hive as a source of income if I know many who live from this in my country, personally I use it as a fund for health emergencies for my parents, which I can't have in my day to day life, I have my earnings in savings and sometimes I think if someone see my wallet people may think I don't need the money 🙃, what they don't know is that our currency devalues by the second and I can't have money in banks in my country because they don't accept dollars or any other currency than ours, so, basically hive is my savings bank and that's why I have my 1 year earnings there.
The long and short content thing hit me in the soul hahaha 🥲🥲, I try Mac, I really try to make content that others want to read because that's what this is all about, but I swear it's completely hard for me! 😥 I can't condense any ideas, I've always written too much to be able to express myself properly and it's sad, so sorry for those thousand words to get to a point 🥹.
Since I came to hive I've had a lot of conflicts with myself trying to fit in and do what others, but I was putting too much pressure on myself trying to write little, I ended up with a lot of anxiety and didn't want to write anything, so one day I said to hell with it! Whoever wants to read me will read what I write whether it's short or long.
Lately I'm getting more serious about trying to write less, but it's so hard for me that it exhausts me, in the end I end up thinking that I do the posts just for me, but it's what makes me happy and I don't want to change it, just like my images 🥺, my posts have a little part of my inner self, each and every one.
The post frequency thing also hit me hard hahaha, now I'm thinking "Mac did you do this post for me?" 😅 I really wish I could post more in the week, but work in daily life and taking care of my parents doesn't let me, even though I would like to because I enjoy hive writing more than being a doctor 🥲.
On the other hand I spend 2 or 3 days making a post because I like to make my own images, and I'm not very good with editing software or any technology either.so... it's sad because I can only make a few, I wish I could do it every day, but I prefer to only make a few that I do like because I put a lot of love and effort into them.
Your opinions are all very valid Mac, personally I think that everyone can have the freedom to think as they want, and I don't find anything wrong with yours, so don't stop expressing what you feel, in the end that's what hive is all about, to have freedom ¿isnt it?
Greetings my dear @macchiata I will continue with my short writing practices for you to read me, I promise 🥹💕.
As long as you do what you like, it's fine. You know it's decentralized place and you can do anything about your post. I think you've been doing amazing on hive and there's nothing that you should stress about.
You make me feel so much better, thanks Mac 💖🙏🏼, I still try to write little, but see the comment I left you 🙃, I actually thought you wouldn't read it 😅, my efforts don't work much after almost a year and a half, I'm a mess! 🥹.
I hope you are already in your shelter to now recharge yourself with energy without social physical contact my dear @macchiata 🤗💖
Macright now 😅😅 Just as I would be.
I can say that you really got inspired by this long post from Adam Mac!
On my scale, I consider Hive as my additional source of income for such future expenses ( Hiveph Meet-up) and then the other one is for my amusement and playground. Competition for attention is easy here compared to going outside this sphere. I am trying both at the same time with the podcast project that I am doing and overall Hivers are still my main supporters.
Since I use a voting trail at times the point of reference to where I read the post is I made some comments. May it be just a random gif and nonsense message it is a sign that I did enjoy it. Though I leave long comments too especially if something piques my interest.
But yeah we can just enjoy our stay here. Adapt whichever works which still follows the guidelines of the community.
I enjoyed this long form of text.
That's true, Adam is an inspiration @tpkidkai. and that's true, Hive can be an additional income and also attention is much easier to be had for sure and it's a privilege to know this place. In Youtube it's much more harder and I once wrote about the differences as well. So, yeah I think that here you need to grind but not as hard as if you're on youtube which requires bigger capital if you want to make it over there. Thank you for enjoying this but sorry it took a while for me to get back,let's say things have been a little bit chaotic.
That's okay Mac! Walang problema dyan!
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Enjoyed the read up to the last bit. I'm guilty of not being able to consume as much as before (last year). A lot has been going on in RL but starting to be back at it since late March. I love Hive and there's a lot of interesting things and people to learn from here.
Yep, everyone has priorities so it's fine if you go back here once in a while and only be active when you can. Much like you, there are many things to learn, see, and people to interact with. I think that for me, this kind of socalization is what I like since I am mostly not too social offline/IRL 🤣
It's interesting that you use metrics like SEO and tags, I didn't know that curators do that. I have been hearing so much the last few days that SEO is now dying a slow death because of AI generated content and there are rumours that search engines like Google will start to penalise those that use AI generated content when it comes to searchability. Trust me, a lot of people are abusing this for rankings and I think they are going to get smacked down for it in the long run.
I think that each person's account should reflect them as a person, but even that is hardly ever 100% true because many people choose to remain anonymous and I feel that they should be allowed that if that's what they choose. In terms of content though, there's nothing wrong with a serious blog if you're a serious person and there's also nothing wrong with fun. Some of the people that I follow are really hilarious and I'll often read their posts just for levity. It's all really subjective because the user experience is different for each person.
Sorry about your laptop crash. I know how infuriating that can be. Have a good day 🦋
I didn't use it for Hive, only for web2 content because tags in hive is a bit irrelevant other than showing up in different front-ends and earning some extra tokens. With hive, I mostly use the 2nd approach + all the other curation rules that exist.
I am sure it was about a couple months ago they also updated their algorithm. Basically they are also citing to "focus on people content first" than the rigid SEO focus. If you're interested in these it's actually here and it's a guide for "creators" about google SEO practices, the newer one. I think May 2023 they'd also roll out newer updates. So perhaps they would finally penalize AI written content.
I mean, everyone can really do what they want here and I am sure there's audience for everything which is how it should be and at least, how I see it.
And yep, it was frustrating but I am trying to get use to it 😄. Have a good week!
True, haha. You don't need to feel awful about yourself only because you are unsuitable for their standards. As long you are not damn doing wrong (following the rules in the correct term), write as far as possible—just my two cents. I also agree with your claim that walking through success is not easy, and you need to build your connection through engagement if gaining a reputation is your definition of success. They said engagements are one of the keys to success here, and I feel sorry if I barely do it. I can only do it every time I think I have something with sense to say or I'm on vacation (just like today.) Not fooling you that I enjoy writing here if I have something to share, though. I would be a hypocrite if I told you I'm not into money and only joined here for writing😂. Even when I was not yet in the Hive blockchain, I had already met different people through blogging. However, they ended up leaving because they were not earning well or they wanted to focus more on something they were more passionate about. Sorry for sharing this long comment. For those authors reading and curating my content, although I'm a bit lacking on creating engagements, thank you so much!
Yep! as long as you're not doing anything wrong based on community agreement or whatever exist over there, just chill and do your thing.
You also don't have to feel guilty for not engaging much because everyone has priorities on life. So, maybe at one point, hive isn't your main source of income, then yeah, focus on what makes you money.
I am sure that people come here for different reasons and that's valid in my opinion. But earning well means different thing for another people. For example, one person means is enough if they can put food on the table, but for some people it's cars, house and luxury. So it's another part that's subjective too hehe. Still, maybe hive just wasn't meant for them and they found something that they're more passionate about.
Never feel sorry that you write a long comment, not in my blog because I read it and I love it. Though sometimes it can takes a few days before I am able to respond. Now I guess I am getting better at responding 🤣
True, Hive is not my source of income but it brought me a lot of opportunities haha. A lot of people would enter and leave our lives although not on Hive. That's the sad reality, though.
F A N T A S T I C !!! 😃
I have nothing to add! Sometimes, when I see your posts, I can freely skip creating my own content that day as you already said 100% of what I would write... But, seriously... 😀
Great tips, not rules... more guidelines... This would be great as a part of the "Book of HIVE"... Thanks for helping others in this unconventional way...
I have picked this post on behalf of the @OurPick project which will be highlighted in the next post!
🤣 If I were to be 100% anarchist, there's no rule and there shouldn't be a rule. Internet should remain unregulated and away from government or any entities that wants to regulate it.... but long story short, that's not the case. We have highly regulated internet and even what we know as decentralized, sometimes the lines are blurred too😂.
I just hope that everyone remembers, have fun whatever that is and chill and not to get too offended easily. Cheers mate! and good night, I am assuming that it's night where you at hehehe
Oh, yes... "Decentralization" is the new fancy word and everyone likes to use it, but many are far away from its real meaning...
Hehehe... It was morning, as I'm in Europe, but I did have an afternoon siesta later... So, your good night worked well...😂
Now that’s a Healthy rant! Lol I think it’s challenging to be always on the lookout for different things on hive that are good. There’s certainly plenty of posts out there but trying to weed out what can be good and what’s likely a waste is hard. I am guilty of doing maybe a little more background than I should but I like a good story hahaha.
There’s a lot to be said about consistency though, with keeping away from the border of dumpster fire spam. I get annoyed when I see someone posting 5-6 times a day. It’s either AI at this point or it’s a bunch of low quality crap lol. Space it out!
Not talking about money is something that's always annoyed me - partly because in day-to-day corporate life, not talking about money puts the power in the hands of the company you work for. It keeps you insulated from knowing what you could be worth. Part of that is because people stir drama and get all 'but they make xyz, I should make the same!' instead of using that information to sit down and say to their boss (or themselves!) 'What do I need to do to also make xyz?'.
But, even with folks who complain, I think talking about what we make is important and healthy, and we're only going to be able to teach people how to frame that knowledge as something useful (instead of wasting it on jealousy) if we do it.
Ah yeah when it comes to corporation it's like you sort of have to ask around though some people might not like it when you ask them. I think like you, it's not about to incite jealousy but more about a useful knowledge, like what do I have to do to get to that point, that sort of thing.
Loved this rant. 100000 paragraphs...LOL
Btw, what is the longest post you have ever written here? Hopefully not 400000 words long. 😁
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hahaha it's certainly not 4000000 words but I think 28000 maybe 3000? that's probably the longest as it was a travel blog collections and a travel guide-ish.
Long post but I enjoyed reading because your perspective is interesting.
It is true that talking about money can be uncomfortable and even more here on Hive. But the truth is, everyone has to make a living somehow and there is no shame in making money from writing content on Hive or any other platform. In fact, I think it takes a lot of creativity and hard work to be successful here.
Regarding quality, I agree that it can be subjective and there are different approaches to assessing it. Personally, I think as long as the content is personal, informative, and well-written, it's good enough. And as for curation and creation, I think a healthy balance of both is important for the ecosystem to thrive.
I love your point about vibes. It's amazing how much we can pick up from people's interactions and attitudes. And while we can't always please everyone, it's important to be a good citizen and coexist peacefully.
You know, there should be no shame to make money. It's what we need to survive and whoever that tells you, you should be ashamed, I would say ignore. It could be they come from different income and circumstances but really, a bit of empathy here and there would help.
When each of us, individually thrive, it's easier to help other too and not too dependent on a couple of groups or projects. It's what makes interaction more fun as well because you focus on what you're passionate about while also making something out of it.
Just a common sense would help a lot for sure😁 thanks for reading this long ranty morning talk!
A nice read, that's is interesting topic, and yes if we have some kind of goals then surely we will try to achieve
for sure!