Why Time Vaults Are Vital To Hive And Should Be In The Next Hard Fork

Time vaults are something we discussed a great deal over the past year. This is something that could be the foundation for a more expansive financial system.

What are time vaults?

The best way of thinking about this is akin to a certificate of deposit. Whereas a savings account is liquid, a CD requires a greater time commitment. In exchange for this, a higher interest rate is often paid.

For the sake of this article we will simply use a 1 year time vault with a 25% interest rate to keep things simple.

Time vaults add to Hive's base layer, fixed income market. This is a multi-faceted approach brings a number of benefits to the ecosystem.

This was something that came up in the latest Blocktrades post.

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This will be a powerful addition to Hard Fork 28. In this article we will delve into what it will provide for the Hive ecosystem.

So let us dive right in.

On-Chain Staking

We all see the news about Kraken and the lawsuit the Securities and Exchange Commission filed. They are being sued to the tune of $30 million for the staking of coins on the exchange. The agency believes this is dealing in a security that should have been registered.

It appears the goal is to remove staking on exchanges as an option for retail customers. Naturally, institutional investors will still be able to do this. Ironic how the regulation in the U.S. financial system works.

Hive solves this.

We already have the ability to stake $HIVE, turning it into Hive Power. Of course, this does more than just garner one a return. Since Hive Power is essentially an access token, it allows for people to access the resources. This can be akin to the idea of digital real estate. This is also the basis for governance.

At the same time, we also have the Hive savings account whereby people can deposit their Hive Backed Dollars (HBD) and earn 20%. This is a rather straightforward financial instrument providing a healthy yield to all who are partaking.

Time vaults would add another layer (product) to the mix. This could be a single account like was mentioned or even a tree offering a multitude of time frames with different yields. We could start with one and, then when successful, add during the ensuring hard fork (HF29).

The most important factor here is that Hive is offering this without counterparty risk due to an application or company. In this instance, the blockchain is the counterparty. As long as the software is running on a server somewhere, the HBD is accessible.

Try to do that with coins and tokens on FTX.

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The Basis For Other Financial Products

The topic of Hive bonds is something we outlined in great detail.

Hive bonds functions best when there is a time vault on the HBD. This is a layer 2 idea that will take HBD deposited into the time vault, and create a token associated with that deposit. Since there are parameters with the HBD such as time locked up, return, and amount, this token has the characteristics of a bond similar to a US Treasury.

Once the token is created at the second layer, it now has created a liquid asset. A layer 2 DEX could then offer trading, which encourage more HBD to be locked up. One could always unwind without really taking the HBD out.

Remember, this is layer 2, happening off-chain. It means payment would come likely in some type of derivative of HBD such as a wrapped token. The backing agent of that, HBD, would also likely be locked up also.

The most valuable aspect to Hive bonds is the ability to use them as collateral. Here would could see a stablecoin based lending system in place. This would be similar to the existing bond system most of the financial world is familiar with. The difference is that a Hive bond has an exact value. This means the lending platform knows exactly what the payout on the collateral is if held until maturity.

Finally, a lot was made of an individual deposit into Hive savings of $400K. This is a number that is likely to grow. While it is encouraging, what if the value on the money that was deposited still could be used for economic productivity. In other words, how about expanding the Hive economy.

Here is where a bonding system tied to a lending platform enters. People could still extract the value out of these assets and put them to productive use. It becomes a way to push financial and commercial activity on the value that is already in place.

Opportunity For Applications And Games

We are looking at a funding mechanism that holds a great deal of potential. The idea of time vaults on Hive could change the gaming industry.

There was some insight provided to us by the road map of Ragnarok. This is a game that is in beta testing right now. It is going to have entry fees along with prize pools tied to the different tournaments that are run.

Here is where time vaults could be valuable.

The payment for the entry fees will be done in HBD. That is the currency that will be accepted. Whatever fees are paid, that will be deposited. Of course, this earns interest which will be used as the prize pool.

Hence, the payouts always come out of interest, none of it touches the principal. This means that each year, as long as people are playing the game, the amount deposited keeps growing. This is Investing 101: never touch the principal and keep using the interest.

Here again we see how HBD locked up is tied to economic activity on Hive.

Imagine the creativity and innovation we could see come out of this concept.

Hive Security

We always have to bring up security. After train wrecks like UST, it is wise to keep an eye on potential threats to the ecosystem.

Time vaults actually make the entire process of Hive Backed Dollars stronger. Just like the Decentralized Hive Fund (DHF), HBD in time vaults is not a threat, at least not immediately. Since all on the network is transparent, we know what money is due to come out of the vaults.

Of course, in a situation with Ragnarok, the HBD will be redeposited since the idea is to keep providing prize pools for the players.

A thought hit me: how about an automated redeposit? One can select this and, in our example, the HBD would be redeposited automatically for another year. If the user wanted to change this, the button could be deselected at least, say, 30 days before the original year is up. This would allow for some greater control and idea of the intentions of the HBD in the time vaults.

Security is also enhanced by having operations at the second layer. We see how wrapped versions of HBD being used in transactions regarding Hive bonds can offer resiliency. The wrapped token could actually be utilized in commercial activities if people build out applications and games at that level. Either way, even if that is solely financial activity, it could form the foundation of the Hive Financial Network.

Hive Payments

There is a lot that goes into developing a currency. On of the things about Hive's algorithmic stablecoin is the fact that it is starting to receive localized support. We are seeing how the region of Sucre in Venezuela is starting to really implement this as a payment system.

Many in the developed world overlook the basics.

Here is what HBD does for the people in that region:

Of course, this project is focused on the functioning of our local economy, on the positive impact that hive has generated in our lives through its economic model and the financial freedom that it has provided us, because our local currency (The Bolivar) loses its value daily and acquiring bills like $USD or our own currency turns out to be a nightmare.

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We often miss the fact that these people are not dealing in digital dollars. If they want access to USD, which is preferred over their local currency, they have to deal with banknotes. This is difficult to acquire and even more dangerous to hold.

HBD solves this problem.

This is the chicken or the egg scenario. It is difficult for HBD to have use cases until there is more HBD out there. At the same time, more HBD without use cases can create problems.

Time vaults can help with this endeavor.

What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comment section below.


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this is a really great idea, especially since it would give us a more stable APR on HBD with the wtinesses being able to change it on a short notice

It would in the hands of the witnesses just like savings.

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The idea of the time vault is very attractive, even if I have a doubt: currently the APR of HBD is equal to 20% but with the monthly staking of the interests an APY of 22% per year is reached. For example, does the one-year vault of 25% include monthly staking of rewards? APY would reach 27% annually

I believe the deposits in banks are old thing. Staking the HP, keeping HBD in savings are the new thing. What blocktrades is doing is definitely going to change the Hive. I am pretty sure this would even attract some investors behind the scenes. I guess this is just the start of we seeing power of the HBD.

It has enormous potential. This is really going to set Hive apart from a lot of other things out there.

This idea at the base layer.

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Sounds promising! I would like to see 6 month, 12 month and 24 month time vault with ascending interest rate terms. It is truly amazing that Venezuela is beginning to adopt HBD locally. Looking forward to all the future brings 💯 !PIZZA

This will be massive and a very good way to provide use case for hbd, I will love to see the full picture from blocktrades

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Looks like Dan might be interested in time vaults for HBD, which is cool!

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Time vaults would be such a great feature, been able to put up some Hive or HBD and lock it for a certain amount of time would actually help ppl to hold their coins even during bad times, in crypto so far in my opinion I would say a larger part of the market makes more profits than anyone just by holding and not trading, Im in favor of a time vault feature, I hope Im alive for when stores in my country would take crypto, like El Salvador or Venezuela taking HBD, thx for sharing ✌️

Ooh the time vault idea sounds promising. Just to make sure I'm understanding the other part, I looked at the glossary entry for "wrapped token." So an example of this is like swap.hbd and swap.hive on Hive Engine, correct?
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A lot to learn about Hive. I like the idea of time vaults as explained. Years of inactivity have left me far behind in understanding how things work. I am back after Steemit's takeover by Tron. Let the learning begin....again.

It sounds easy at first, but once we start discussing the details and see that it could be part of bigger task, it gets complicated. Something tells me that if the idea is scheduled for HF28, we won't see next hardfork until 2024 :o)

I think the time vaults will be quite interesting and I think I will definitely take part in it. I don't really plan on selling anytime soon and I could take more interest in it's place. I wonder if the difference is that large or not because we can compound monthly in the savings.

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It would be interesting if we could have two-way pegged side-chains for Hive. So you could move Hive or HBD from the Hive blockchain to a parallel system. So we wouldn't have to trade our way to another system, we could just migrate our existing stash to where it works best for us. For some this might be anonymous transactions, or smart contracts.


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A 25% bump for a 100x in time seems too steep, for me.

I'm also not understanding this 'second layer', fully.

Can you explain, or have explained, what technically has to happen in order to freely trade a staked hbd?

Hive-engine writes a json to the 'first layer' and their servers authenticate them 'second layer'.

How do we automate out h-e's part of that so that the 'base layer' chain handles 'bonds' autonomously?

IF this can't be done 'at the base layer' I think that needs to be stated, and our expectations shifted to a few 'trusted' 'second layers'.
That trust being in their interpretations of the jsons indelibly written on the base layer.

Where does the @spknetwork fall in all this?
And, @hive.loans?