It was life affirming to read this exchange between you and @saramiller . Your respect for each other in conversation and debate is what we need. Honest discourse. Even the opinions of hierarchy for and against bring balance.
There's an interesting scene in the feature "Darkest Hour" where Winston Churchill played by Gary Oldman takes the tube in order to gauge the average person's appetite for all out war. It's an example of what you two are discussing. You need the ultimate strategist in Churchil. And you need the will of the people to execute the strategy. Dish washer to Leader.
Looking forward to more conversation with you two! Rock it!
Hahaha, thanks @nathandduvall - I don't know if I've ever had someone cheer on a conversation! Glad you're enjoying it as much as I am.
I respect & appreciate @lukestokes and find great value in our exchanges. It's quite fun to surf the brain waves with him, and I think it's awesome we honor each other even though we disagree a lot!