I agree 100% Larken, but if you can admire Dr.Paul for what he did, I think we can give Adam the same respect. Not voting for him but remaining supportive in spreading his message, which is far closer to liberty than anyone else by a long shot. Aside from the contradictions to voluntaryism, it would be great to get it out to a lot of people. The Freedom book is pretty solid. Ron Paul meant to wield the power to gain liberty as well.
I always enjoy your content sir!
Why should anyone support a message that involves a proposition to utilize an immoral, illegitimate system, to illegitimately, centrally assume ownership of massive resources and lands?
Aside from the small drop of arsenic in the water, it’s great water, and we should get it out to the people!
Ron Paul is openly a statist. He is not claiming to be anything he is not.
Kokesh needs to stop calling himself a Voluntaryist. It is fraudulent, false advertising.
For exactly the reasons stated in the post and my comment--we know he's not going to win, so the point is to spread the message of freedom, which again is far more about liberty than it's not. Yes, he should drop the voluntary label, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have a massive effect to bring people around full circle, just like Ron Paul did for me and countless others.
He has directly stated that he is running to win, and not merely to spread the message of freedom. Ron Paul's ideas helped me along the path as well. He also didn't pretend to be a Voluntaryist, selling a falsely advertised plan.
People can donate to the LP all they like. I'm just letting folks know it's a scam.
Hey, I'm just letting people know that you're wrong:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i5PaC0_EXIg
Whoops. Looks like I missed this one. There are other vids of him saying he is not for anarchy, and wouldn't describe himself as an anarchist. The point I was making was he never said his plan to assume authority as president was voluntaryist in nature as you do. That's a pretty clear and easy distinction. He has also said directly, "I'm not an anarchist." Watch this video from 2:56.
Are you ready to have a formal debate yet, or are you just going to keep ignoring the actual points being raised?
Somebody else chimed in over on the other post you responded to today and they don't seem to think I'm just an annoying troll, but actually understand the critique and asked you some questions as well. Are they just being "annoying and ignorant" too? I'm ready to talk ideas in a formal setting when you are.
Step up to the plate?
Fair enough. But Ron ran to win too. And so for all those folks who still have the training wheels on, like we did when we first heard the Dr., I want him to take it to the masses.
Seems we're both repeating ourselves here. Thank you for your time and I look forward to following your work!
Thanks man. Same to you.
@johnnyhurley - I agree with you.
People need to first have the seed introduced to them, then once they get over their initial shock, fear, etc. they need to take baby steps to learn.
Then it can take years before someone is fully onboard with releasing their chains. It's what they've known their entire life & most humans AREN'T open-minded.
I first started questioning the gov't back in '93/'94, but it wasn't until 2012/13 when someone pointed me to Larken that I was like YEH, I agree with THAT.
Even then I just agreed. I didn't become a full-on activist until about 2 years ago & that's ONLY because I had some time since I was sick & couldn't work so I started learning.
Most people can't hear the message b/c they are chained to their 9-5 job working min. 40 hour. Many are working way more than that, sometimes 70 hours per week.
The EVIL CORPS & gov't create a society where EVERYTHING is so expensive than unless you make a shit load of money, you are forced to work 2-3 jobs.
Even if someone is only working the typical 40 hours per week, they usually HATE their job which puts a HUGE stressor on them & by the time they get home, all they want to do is eat & go to bed or spend time with their family.
To learn requires mental energy. In fact, the brain uses the MOST energy to run a human body.
That, & the fact that the EVILS poison us so our brains don't work properly, it decreases our energy, or it makes us ill so we have those 2 symptoms.
If you don't have a clear brain & tons of energy to live, forget about convincing/teaching people there's a better way.
If even one of these 2 mainstream people capture a WIDER audience & get people thinking, they will start to open their minds a little bit where it's easier to converse with them about taking it to the next level.
But I certainly don't respect or like people who mislead others.