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RE: Question for Steemit’s Witnesses

in #apps5 years ago

I am not sure from the article, but if you are talking about wanting to send private messages, private calls, private mail, etcetera, and then have family/friends upvote them, there are some concerns. The problem is that once things are private there's no way to prevent abuse anymore. At least when things happen out in the open we can flag them and 'correct' the 'undeserved' rewards. What if two powerful Steemians start 'messaging' each other and upvote each message in tens or hundreds of STEEM, taking that from the 'public' reward pool.

If you are not talking about private, but 'open'/public functionalities on the blockchain, then:

  • messaging is already/becomes available in the Partiko app that runs on Steem
  • music is done on Steem through @dsound
  • images through @steepshot, @appics
  • movies can in theory (now it's mostly vlogs) be done through @dtube
  • articles through @dlike
  • memos/tweets can quickly be send through Partiko, eSteem, etc.

To name a few options. Enjoy :-)

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Hey @soyrosa, *smiles,

Please don’t mind the shadow who did try to darken the brightness that is radiating from the adult discussion of ideas in this post.

Speaking of abuse, it seems to me that Steem’s new RC system which (since HF20?) allows for new accounts to be made by regular users, is being abused by bid-bot owners whom are using their RC to make (without any cost to themselves) hundreds of new accounts for themselves everyday, and that they are then delegating the SP of those new accounts to themselves or to their bid-bots. Is that what it also seems like, to you?

As for an app called “Steemail” being abused, what is your opinion regarding the following ideas? I thought of them after having continued to reflect upon your previous reply.

  • For e-mails being sent via a “Steemail” app each to require a minimum of 500 words (and not gibberish) per “steemail” sent.

  • For a limit of one steemail being able to be sent per day.

  • For no-mass steemails being able to be sent.

  • For such an app to feature a plagiarism-checker that scans steemails before they are sent in order make sure that the same steemails are not repeatedly sent or copied from the internet (including from the Steem blockchain)—and that if they are not original, for those steemails (if upvoted by their recipient) to be ineligible to mine Steem from the reward pool.

Do you suppose these ideas can prevent an app called “Steemail” from being abused in the way that you described?

From Lannie.

Hey @soyrosa, *smiles.

Well, aren’t most people’s e-mails already being read by Google and Microsoft? Seriously, though, thank you for having mentioned the problem of spam.

I agree that it is important for any Steem-based dApp not to be vulnerable to being abused. Perhaps that is where Steem's reputation system can be used.

Is there a bot that can show if spam is generally only posted by those whose reputation number is below a certain number (due to their posts and comments being repeatedly flagged by many different users)?

If so, then perhaps only those whose reputation number is very high can be eligible to use "Steemail", for example, because their reputation number shows they are trustworthy enough not to abuse it.

Yes, part of the appeal of using a blockchain as a ledger is that it takes trust out of the equation. But isn't the reputation number system supposed to partially indicate the trustworthiness of the user? Even if only those whose reputation number is 75 can use "Steemail", for example, then at least some of us would be able to do so, and the rest of us might someday be able to do so.

Thank you for having mentioned the many dApps that you did. Do you happen to know if songs posted on DSound are therefore posted on the blockchain? Or is it like the way that images posted on Steemit are not actually posted on the decentralized Steem blockchain, but on Steemit's centralized servers, instead?

Also, are images posted on appics and steepshot actually posted on the Steem blockchain?

It was only recently when I learned that videos posted to DTube are not posted on the Steem blockchain.

Perhaps it is specifically text that is able to be posted on the Steem blockchain.

From Lannie.

The reputation number reflects more than one influence.
It can be bought from bid bots, it can be bestowed on brown nosers, and destroyed by bad whales.
The best way to know who is which is to get to know them.
The highest rep on the platform was through self voting from a sock puppet account.
Most of those that bestowed reputation on their brown nosers have proven to be black hats, little wonder.
A very select few of us have our reps solely through sweat equity.

Hello @freebornangel,

So that is how some at Steem have a high reputation number.

From Lannie.

You can buy reputation, you can brown nose your way to reputation, but very few earn it in the harder ways.
It's really useless now that bots sell it.

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it seems that whatever triggered this comment has nothing to do with this post. @lanniebrockstein has been attending PYPT and is a valued contributor to the programs he's participated in. Your comment seriously lacks context in reference to his post. You're better than that @globocop

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