Kinda interesting that you don't mention the countless Bible editings in the past, the cut out books. Regarding your title, probably book of Enoch is the one what is a must mention. Pretty good basic description about how our little world works. Some 'leaders' thought in the past, it is not important, so cut out from Bible (with 100s of more books).
Also interesting, you don't mention the plenty theories what they make us accept as laws from little childhood, meantime none of them are proven, all just theories (spinning ball, gravity, evolution and plenty more). Also, regarding to science, the 5th element (ether, or call it however you want), which was in the research of all the well-known math, physics guys, who tried to describe the world by math (Newton, Einstein) all counted with that (even in gravity theory) as the math didn't add up, at all, so all their work remained an unproven theory, what some atheist power try to represent as laws.
Personally I am not a highly religious person, but obviously I know all these theories what they try to force on us as reality, are all false, so must be (a) creator(s).
Another nice idea to go from the: 'where we live?' question. you can't go north and south (Antarctic Treaty), but you can travel within, in a closed system. try to fly from Johanesburg, SA to Perth, AUS (plenty more routes, dont make any sense) and explain it why they fly first north-east (more than the straight line distance between the 2 towns) then fly down south-east, adding an extra 50% flying distance...
Only makes sense on a stationary earth (or much bigger globe, like 100 times bigger), so one way or another, they lie to us. They either hide the facts of the stationary Earth (ergo must be a creator) or they hide huge lands, more continents, or probably both. Book of Enoch perfectly describes our world, how it made, how things work (sun, moon, luminaries), where are the gates out of here...
average people don't care, nobody takes attention... and in msm, nobody can mention these things... they all serve the devil...
There is reproducible science which is testable and can be trusted. There is no doubt about the round earth.
The books taken out of Bible after 1619 King James as well as the Dead Sea Scrolls all provide useful evidence. Note evidence isn’t proof of anything and everything must be established by 2 or 3 witnesses.
obviously we see it differenty, what is not a problem.
however, i never understood the people who say they are religious, believe in god, creator, call it however you want (anyway i don't question that part), and next to that believe in the spinning ball (what nobody ever seen or experienced), what theory based on the big bang (partly evolution) theory, ergo no god, creator exist...
how can you put these 2 things next to each other??? it's either 1 or the other, but not the 2 things together.
I always, ask this basic thing: why do the flying routes are 20-50%+ more on the globe in million long distance flights, than the straight, shortest globe model distances??? and why nobody ever explained it to you, us from the 'leaders', clever guys??? nobody even allow to ask this question in mainstream??? (i know the answer, because it is so obvious, they can't do anything about it, so better to ban even the question. but still what is your explanation?)
anyway, book of Enoch (cut out by King James from the Bible...) describes it as a stationary, with a dome above, there are plenty more Earth like worlds, what God created with gates within... so didnt really fit in their divide and conquer narrative... I suppose, you haven't read it. Really worthy, eye opening!
The mathematical models accurately predict eclipses and the curve of the earth is visible by all in its shadow on the moon.
There is more than one way to interpret verses. I chose the way consistent with reproducibility and accurate forecasts of the position of sun, moon, planets, and stars.
My question wasn't that.
I don't want to go in it, as it is pointless, you believe what they told you so. If you want to get proof from the people who doctrinated it to you, I recommend you to check out related military (radars for example), transportation (raliways, airways), plenty big construction sites (canals for example). The ones, who teach you the Earth is a globe and have curvature, strangly don't count on that, they always use, plan with the flat, horizontal ways, never use any kind of curvature related math. (what I said before, it is much bigger globe what they say, and they hide incredibly huge lands, continents or it is flat, closed system, so there is creator, god, for sure.)
My question was that: how can you put together the purely fictional big bang (evolution) spinning ball theory and still believe in creator, god??? (what is a pure theory, nothing is proven, how I never seen any proof for spinning ball, all the math, physics don't prove anything, even gravity stays as theory - even if by the years they left away the theory word, it is still just a theory)
Just a little quote from book of Enoch (The Book of Heavenly Luminaries, Chapter 72)
There are plenty more pretty straight-forward description about travelling north and south in the book (what we are not allowed to do). Plenty other gates (portals) described, so it had to wipe out from Bible.
And it includes plenty reference regarding why I am not a highly religious person, just admitting the pure fact, there must be creator(s) (good or bad, who knows, based on he wants full control and everybody must kiss ass for him, probably can't be that much good..), like this one (Chapter 61):
All the holy ones who are in heaven shall bless Him,
And all the elect who dwell in the garden of life:
All who sleep not above in heaven... so the creator is not the big boss at all... and it mentioned in similar ways plenty times in plenty other books (the ones they cut off from Bible)... he is the local little king in this world... and there are higher ranking beings above him...
All kind of translations are pretty straight-forward in all the cut off books. Can't interpret the same verses in different ways, at all. Especially not about the where we live, how it works part. It's something straight to your face, so it doesnt fit in the control, power tool turned nowadays Bible...
My question is still remain, how can you put next to each other the big bang (evolution, spinning ball) theory and existing creator, god and believe in it???