Let's just agree to disagree. I can't get behind your thinking that only people who can produce on the same level as you can should be getting something - anything.
What about the old, the children, the sick, the disabled? They are just a tax on you? How about you give freely - giving freely is not a tax.
Anyway, I don't think that I can change your mind or can make you see a different viewpoint.
So, I respectfully bow out of this conversation.
How about you stop putting emotions into this and blaming me for not being concerned. Obviously you have not read any of my ideas for something better than UBI. I am not callous or heartless.
You cannot change my mind without sound logic. So far, there has been nothing of solidity.
What you are missing is logic.
If you have a group of people that are the producers of goods, and another who are not. Anything that you demand of the first group is a tax. Any way you distribute those goods to the second group is theft.
And your solution was to say, "no, we aren't stealing, we are giving the producers some magic money".
So... how many Weimar Marks will it take for an hour of your labor? how many Zimbabwe dollars?
Printing money does not equal prosperity.
So, give me a reason to believe that your crypto will function over the long term.
All i see so far is that you have made a plan to enrich the banks every month.
I am not blaming you for anything. Just bowing out of the conversation.
This is you calling me callous and heartless.
That is you firing shots at me while saying, "how about a cease fire."
That is not bowing out.
I did not think that we were discussing each other as a person. I do not know you and have no idea what kind of person you are. I was discussion thought paradigms - not you as an individual. Please, do not take it personally - it is not meant that way.
I am bowing out because I believe that several ideas can exist next to each other. I am all up for giving the Manna idea a chance as I am sure you are working on putting your idea into reality. It is a big world out there and the more approaches we try the better.
I am bowing out because I just can't see it as a tax and frankly, I am okay with us having different opinions and have too much on my plate to engage in a lengthy discussion over this.