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RE: Supplemental funding #2 for HBD stabililzer

in #hbdstabilizer3 years ago

Why should the community trust just one account to control all this?

There is very little trust required since it all goes back to DHF quickly. The balance of the account is usually zero.

I have chosen to not support the proposal to stabilize HBD until the tyrannical rogue downvotes by this account are stopped

Do what you like. I have confidence that the majority of Hive stakeholders will act to support the value of their investment (which this proposal does). If I didn't, I wouldn't be invested in Hive.

one big account's opinion can overrule what the community has valued the post to be.

Again, you seems confused about what is going on. The community decides whether or how to vote on a particular post. When people decide to upvote, not upvote, downvote, or not downvote, those are all community decisions. Including mine, I'm part of the community too. Then the blockchain adds up the votes and decides what reward to pay out.

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Lets say I could upvote the same post 1000 times with the amount of hp I have I still would not equal one of your downvotes, and you haven't address the fact that it makes post less visible how is that fair to users of this platform?

It's really the same issue rewarmed. What's making them visible (and others less visible) is usually one or a few large votes. There's no reason that is legitimate and large downvotes aren't. It's all added up by the software.

Also, UIs don't have to decide visibility by votes alone, and I'm not sure all do. That's the choice of UI developers and if you think they're getting that wrong you should tell them.

So basically content creators just have to eat it and like it, we are just at the whims of the whales like every other crypto, it completely crushes the hope that I had in this platform, and it's really sad if I'm honest. I don't care about rewards it all gets powered up anyways most of the Hive I have was earned not bought, not everyone has a lot of money to invest and it hurts to see classism play out on the Hive blockhain.

That's not what I said, and for what it is worth content creators can become very signficaint stakeholders themselves if they build a following, continue to put in the work, and most importantly of all, don't cash out.

(I'm not begrudging anyone for cashing out nor telling people not to, but if you want a path to earn a significant stake and influence without outside investment, that is the way.)

It's kind of hard to have the ambition to build a following when you know that one account can make your post less visible to your own followers like I have said many times I don't care about rewards, I care about content being censored, it is the same thing a search engine filter that forces your post to the bottom.

If this is true then our issues with onboarding people will continue you often call Hive a less censored platform, not an uncensored platform, if this is the case Hive, should stop being marketed as an uncensored social media platform.

You also talked about how we shouldn't use rewards as an incentive to join this platform, but everything is geared towards earning rewards, you don't have any influence on this blockchain unless you earn rewards or invest in Hive, so if rewards aren't the incentive what is? How would a new account gain any influence on Hive?

If you haven't noticed I have been thinking about this a lot trying to learn the nuances of this debate, every point you have raised has been valid even your comments about content creators which made me feel like zero but it doesn't stop it from being true, Hive wouldn't be much without devs and investors, I would just add content creators to that list as well, we all need each other in this ecosystem and most of my anger around downvoting stems from a lack of understanding. Like I don't understand why we have to make a Layer 2 just to combat bad downvotes, the community needs to be more informed about downvoting and how the rewards pool works, like as of right now where would a user go to learn more information about the reward pool or downvoting?

You don't have to respond to anyone yet you often do and that tells me you give a flying fuck unlike others in your position, you responded to my inquires even if I have no idea what I am talking about. This really helped me to understand this issue better and you didn't have to do that, thank you.

you often call Hive a less censored platform, not an uncensored platform

The UIs generally hard filter certain illegal content, but it's still on the blockchain. That's what I meant.

I don't consider positioning or lack of amplification on a trending page to be censorship. The posts are still visible to someone who looks at your blog or to followers for example. That's a far cry from censorship from my perspective. You are still free to promote and generate traffic to your blog or posts in your own ways.

You also talked about how we shouldn't use rewards as an incentive to join this platform, but everything is geared towards earning rewards

I don't think I said that but if I did then I misstated it or was unclear.

There is the potential for rewards, and that is an appeal, but the rewards are never guaranteed and they won't necessarily be large for every post or every sort of content. You get opportunity, not guaranteed outcome.

Our own wallets promise different it says always a reward on a post,
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For what it's worth I will be supporting this proposal, two completely different issues and it would be narrowminded of me.