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RE: Have You Seen The Hive DAO Proposal To Fund Market Research & Growth Strategy for Hive?

in Hive Governance2 months ago

If you can't promote a simple post on hive in a way that is disturbing then how can you promote hive as a whole without just annoying people you will try to onboard. You should do a market reasearch on how hive work first.

Mass tagging isn't a gage of quality.

How can you seem a serious projet to do something that need serious (doing some deep market research) if you use such techniques like spam tags.
Since i'm a nice human, i will give you the best way to make it look more serious start doing some market research for "free" and let those first result show how well your project is.

Just my view that seem to be shared by some other users

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A vote is currently underway to consider adding enforced notifications into Hive to ensure that all users are informed of DHF proposals. This would address the issue faced by all DHF proposers, which is that there is no way to know if their proposal has been considered by the community or not. Pushed notifications will at least ensure that people do not feel pressured to resort to tagging the community in order to gain their attention.

I can assure you that I did not send out tags because I particularly wanted to - however, since there was so little engagement, I had no way to measure the sentiment among most of the community.

I will also add that in the real world, people tend to accept that they can just ignore people who are handing out flyers in a social area. A notification is really little more than someone passing you on the street with a flyer. I personally receive hundreds of notifications per day across social media - most of which I am not interested in. I do not agree that a single notification for a potentially key proposal on Hive is really a problem for anyone, but I respect your difference of opinion - we are all unique.

Gauging the likely efficacy of a complex research project based on a single notification is not an optimal strategy, but each to their own!

A vote is currently underway to consider adding enforced notifications into Hive to ensure that all users are informed of DHF proposals. This would address the issue faced by all DHF proposers, which is that there is no way to know if their proposal has been considered by the community or not. Pushed notifications will at least ensure that people do not feel pressured to resort to tagging the community in order to gain their attention.

this kinda shit it mean proposals like the lasslhe one will have big exposition and might get some votes from people not looking what they are voting.

I will also add that in the real world, people tend to accept that they can just ignore people who are handing out flyers in a social area. A notification is really little more than someone passing you on the street with a flyer. I personally receive hundreds of notifications per day across social media - most of which I am not interested in. I do not agree that a single notification for a potentially key proposal on Hive is really a problem for anyone, but I respect your difference of opinion - we are all unique.

I'm not hardcore for no notification but a lot of hive users don't use other socials at all for this reason, i simply don't like spam tag cuz then i get mentioned on giveaway i never asked to be tagged or things like that and it start to be more than just one dhf in a few time.

Gauging the likely efficacy of a complex research project based on a single notification is not an optimal strategy, but each to their own!

Would you trust a cure for cancer getting advertised in x.com with spammy tags ?

People pay for proposals, so it is not unreasonable that Hive notifies people that the proposal exists. I recommend creating your own proposal to find out how poor the current system is.

Would you trust a cure for cancer getting advertised in x.com with spammy tags ?

I have studied cancer and healing for over 20 years. It's a big topic. I don't suggest blindly trusting anything that anyone ever tells you about health topics - do your own research. You can't do your own research if you can't hear the people with relevant information. The free flow of information is paramount.

People pay for proposals, so it is not unreasonable that Hive notifies people that

This would mean the proposal is an advert.

I recommend creating your own proposal to find out how poor the current system is.

Dhf systeme is poor but for other reason, for example you can't downvote a proposal and dhf funded users don't have to prove where the funds go. + i won't make my proposal since i have no reason to do so atm.

You can't do your own research if you can't hear the people with relevant information.

Mostly when there are spamm pings on x.com there are just some fake giveaway, crypto scamms or flat earther. So no way i will look at there to find info about cancer.

Every post on Hive is an advert in some senses - an advert for your thoughts and ideas. It costs a minimum of $10 to make a proposal and I imagine that accounts will be hit hard by downvotes if they try to promote DHF proposals that are spam.

The lack of accountability for DHF proposals is a huge problem, yes. I attempted to introduce discussion of that into the Strategizer proposal, in order to improve Hive's profile to potential investors, who typically want transparency. Overall, this idea was rejected by Hive's stakeholders for their own, unspecified, reasons.

Yes, there is a lot of noise on X and in the notifications. It's important for there to be a better level of communication on Hive regarding DHF proposals in order to ensure that potential proposers of DHF work know that they are reaching the community and to prevent conflicts of opinion about notifications. There is no obviously 100% perfect solution, but DHF notifications might be one that works well. There is no way to know without experimenting.

the dhf notification really scare me a bit, could be so easy to abuse just create an a dhf to promote some random shit and expose it, could be an easy way to do physing or thing like that

it would cost a minimum of $10hbd to do that, but you are right that there are some potential issues. that being said, there are only a very small number of proposals being created - so it isn't difficult for them to be monitored for abuse.