Stop actively votetrading with people who produce low effort content without bringing much other value to Hive than exchanging votes, you know who they are.
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Stop actively votetrading with people who produce low effort content without bringing much other value to Hive than exchanging votes, you know who they are.
Hello @acidyo
Please make suggestions as to how we should best proceed.
Should we stop writing reports?
Are the reports from @dagobert007 and @campingclub ok? should we also stop the two reports?
@my451r please don't write a report tomorrow
Okay, tomorrow I won't be writing a daily report.
Is that what I said? You are actively vote trading with certain accounts that produce low effort farmy content without providing any value to Hive. Aren't you an actual curation project? Shouldn't curating be one of the focuses of your community? Then how come so many of your votes go mainly to certain authors who vote your account back in exchange?
My main issue was with users like this: https://peakd.com/@peterchung/posts
How do your votes keep landing on these posts? Is there no oversight? Do you think it's okay as long as you get a vote in return and beat the rest of stakeholders in inflation?
@dagobert007 seems to actively post but he is also involved in voting many of the same users so I really wonder how much you curate the people you write reports about if most of your voting power is just used between certain accounts aka votetrading. This user has left 4 comments in 4 months yet is posting curation reports daily, either he is an alt account or just interested in the post rewards while under the guise of "curating content". It's quite despicable and I'm sure you're well aware of your activity and just acting innocent.
OK
I will immediately ensure that no more reports are written starting tomorrow.
How about explaining what has been going on for so long?
Hello @acidyo
Make us, the cch community and Indonesia community a suggestion on how to proceed. I have invested the income from reports, delegation to @hive-117778 and @campingclub. I also have income at steem through curation rewards. I use the curation rewards from steem to keep growing on hive. I am an old man who has problems with today's internet technick but I am learning. I would first like to thank you for taking the time to listen to problems. sorry for my bad english i translate mostly from german to english.
Maybe try to fix this?
Shame to see you vote-trading as well @starstrings01
Hello @acidyo
OK. understood.
I will follow OCD Curationrail with 50% and with the remaining 50% I will curate the cch community and Indonesia community until I have the overview.
Is this suggestion acceptable from your side?
OK. Regarding vote-trading issue, I accept. but if you think that my posts were "very low effort content on a daily basis just to fill the votetrading quota". It's a impolite comment to me. You, as a reasonable curator(thought I did), did not consider my time consuming works of translation of the old Chinese text. The old Chinese text(plus philosophical subject), for Koreans, are also another language and enough times required to understand. You seem to think that vote for long written English posts are available - Not for concentrated and concise philosophical text(is very low effort content). Regarding this, I'd like to correct your misconception/preconception. Thanks.
There's people putting in way more effort to earn less rewards than simply translating a couple sentences along with a photo. Sorry to break it to you but content no one consumes and actively is just a placeholder to increase the speed of your hive stake growing unfairly vs everyone else using it to grow the platform is not going to fly.
Thanks.
There are some things you need to understand clearly. I don't want you to judge based on what you can see about what may have been the work someone else took the time to do.
It would be better to announce that Hive is banning vote trading altogether. Your post stresses the justification that vote trading should be banned, but it seems too long and emotional. I respect your logic, but I think that this kind of response was not appropriate. To me, you look like a dictator with preconception. If you feel uncomfortable with this comment, sorry in advance.
Well it should be pretty obvious by now that vote trading is nothing else than bid bot voting or whatever other scheme you can think of. If everyone votetraded so they all received 2x faster stake rather than just curation rewards and the odd posts others are supposed to curate, how do you think the platform would look like? Probably the same as what Steem looks like today. not to mention no newcomers receiving any curation but having to buy stake to participate, we could just turn into proof of stake at that point and remove post and curation rewards altogether cause who'd want to see placeholder posts in trending just so everyone could maintain max curation and max post rewards daily, something you and other votetraders are doing while everyone else is helping grow the ecosystem and value of your own investment.
Recommendations and prohibitions are different. I didn't understand that hive banned vote trading. Perspectives on values can vary. Justification must be given on a neutral basis.
One more thing, And the justification for your argument, if the practical data is to show that people like me(abuse users that you think) has outstanding returns by votetrading compaired with whales(over 50,000), and witnesses, even not your calculation, many vote-traders would agree. I'm curious about that too. You can use my average annual rate of return. However, rather than comparing with people with less power, the data also show the average returns of whales and other witnesses that everyone judges reasonably. Of course, including you.
What you embarrassed me is that you judged that I had been working on my post without efforts. It seems to me that you think a short article with philosophical reflection is not worthwhile. Of course, this is the realm of subjective value judgments. Your point seems to be that users who create value through vote trading should disappear anyhow.