Die USA haben die Zölle für Elektroautos, Solar Panels und Lithium-Batterien dramatisch angehoben.
Autos aus China sollen mit 100% besteuert werden, Solar Panels mit 50% und Lithium-Batterien, die vor allem in den USA und Europa fehlen mit 25%.
Vor allem die EU verliert in Sachen E-Mobilität zunehmend den Anschluss und die Konkurrenzfähigkeit zu China.
Während viele Produkte des täglichen Bedarfs bereits in China hergestellt werden, sind vor allem E-Autos aus der EU extrem teuer und für viele Menschen unleistbar geworden.
Dazu kommt, dass es in der EU an Rohstoffen und billiger Energie mangelt, die vor allem für die Herstellung von Autos, Solar-Panels und Batterien erforderlich sind. Deindustralisierung.
Hohe Zölle würden auch die deutsche Autoindustrie treffen, wenn China europäische Autos ebenfalls höher besteuert. Reziprozität.
Bis jetzt konnte die USA (Tesla) und EU Autos massenweise nach China exportieren.
Andererseits gerät die europäische Autoindustrie zunehmend unter Druck und das gefährdet die Produktion und Arbeitsplätze in der EU.
Es gibt aber auch bereits Überlegungen, wie die hohen Zölle umgangen werden könnten. China könnte ebenfalls hohe Zölle einheben und die Zölle dann gegen-subventionieren. Oder es könnte die Endfertigung (die letzten Fertigungsschritte) nach Mexico oder in die EU verlegt werden, um die Zölle zu umgehen etc.
Eine andere Idee wäre, dass europäische Auto-Konzerne selbst die Produktion nach China verlegen, um konkurrenzfähig zu bleiben. So könnte zumindest ein Teil der Wertschöpfung in der EU bleiben.
Autos würden dann so wie viele andere Produkte billiger statt teurer werden.
Bei vielen anderen Produkten, auch aus der Tech-Branche, wird das ebenfalls so praktiziert. Warum sollte das bei Autos anders sein?
Soll die EU die Auto- und die Solar-Industrie (gibt es die in der EU überhaupt?) protegieren und hohe Zölle auf chinesische Autos, Solar-Panels, Batterien etc. einführen? Was meint ihr?
Biden hits Chinese electric cars and solar cells with higher tariffs
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-69004520
English
The US has dramatically increased tariffs on electric cars, solar panels and lithium batteries.
Cars from China are to be taxed at 100%, solar panels at 50% and lithium batteries, which are particularly lacking in the US and Europe, at 25%.
The EU in particular is increasingly losing touch and competitiveness with China when it comes to e-mobility.
While many everyday products are already manufactured in China, e-cars from the EU in particular have become extremely expensive and unaffordable for many people.
In addition, there is a shortage of raw materials and cheap energy in the EU, which are particularly necessary for the production of cars, solar panels and batteries. Deindustrialization.
High tariffs would also affect the German car industry if China were to tax European cars more heavily as well. Reciprocity.
Until now, the USA (Tesla) and the EU have been able to export cars to China en masse.
On the other hand, the European car industry is coming under increasing pressure and this is jeopardizing production and jobs in the EU.
However, there are already considerations as to how the high tariffs could be circumvented. China could also impose high tariffs and then counter-subsidize the tariffs. Or production (the last production steps) could be moved to Mexico or the EU in order to circumvent the tariffs, etc.
Another idea would be for European car companies to relocate production to China themselves in order to remain competitive. This would allow at least part of the added value to remain in the EU.
Cars, like many other products, would then become cheaper instead of more expensive.
This is also practiced for many other products, including those in the tech sector. Why should it be any different for cars?
Should the EU protect the car and solar industries (do solar even exist in the EU?) and introduce high tariffs on Chinese cars, solar panels, batteries, etc.? What do you think?
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Let european car companies relocate their productions to china
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I haven’t even seen a place where electric cars are common
Maybe it’s a failure…
Der Nachteil eines Zollkrieges ist, dass der Wohlstand in allen beteiligten Ländern sinkt, das muss einem klar sein, wenn man höhere Zölle will. Das gab es ja schon in der Geschichte öfter. Die EU wird nach Einheben solcher Zölle ihren Export einbrechen sehen und China kann so billig produzieren, dass die Leute trotz Zölle bereit sind, chinesische Produkte zu kaufen. Also ist das keine echte Lösung.
Besser wäre es, sich auf seine Stärken zu konzentrieren und nicht immer jede Modewelle mitmachen zu wollen. Bei den Autos sind das die hochwertigen Dieselaggregate von VW, BMW, Daimler, Volvo, etc. Sollen die Chinesen doch Weltmarktführer bei den E-Autos werden, bald sind die in Europa ohnehin ein Auslaufmodell. Der Gebrauchtmarkt für E-Autos ist z.B. nicht-existent, das werden viele erst über die nächsten Jahre realisieren.
Guter Punkt, im Endeffekt verliert der Konsument, weniger Wettbewerb, EU könnte sich auf Luxusprodukte fokussieren und diese dann auch nach China exportieren, was die deutsche Autoindustrie bisher auch relativ erfolgreich gemacht hat. Der internationale Markt is x-mal größer als der EU-Binnenmarkt und hat auch mehr Wachstumspotential.
Europe should also raise tariffs like the US, otherwise local companies will go bankrupt, if China also raises tariffs, then local companies in Europe will focus on the local market, lower prices, and do not care about the goal of making high profits
I believe the UE, USA and as many countries as possible need to unite try to exclude Russia and China as much as possible. China has no power if they can't export their cheap stuff made by people working under bad conditions and with terrible pay. It won't be easy for the EU in the short term with the increased costs but we need to not be dependent on China and Russia.
I think EU should follow USA in making these Chinese products more expensive, but I don't think they will do it.
Personally I don't see myself investing in Solar panels in the near future.
Electric cars are a failure already, market stuck and sinking, I don't think eu customers will buy the low quality Chinese products
Cars from China got much better recently at a much lower price, in fact they are getting so competitive that the EU is thinking of imposing high tariffs on them to make them unattractive.
That's good if some electric car becomes cheap, eu ones are way too expensive, I'm gonna stick with my gasoline one tough
As you pointed out, I think USA is in a stronger position to impose such taxes whereas the EU is in a less strong position. No idea though what would be the best..
I don't exactly like the huge tariffs but it does make your own products more appealing to people. However, I don't really see them reducing prices either because of the tariffs. So I am not sure.
America is under some economic pressure so may have set additional tariffs on electric cars to avoid it. But it has many disadvantages
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Here in our country, electric vehicles have not yet arrived and they are still thinking of imposing this tax on solar too.
It seems like recently US is really charging so high for people now which should not be so
It seems like the battle between the US and the China are not actually ending anytime soon