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RE: Fake Proposal Scam! 8700+ Accounts Involved

in Ecency5 days ago

A selfie video? I would have never been here if that was the case.

Many of us are here because you can stay anonymous and still contribute to this chain. I have friends here whose real names/face I don't even know and not even interested to know. I am more interested in what they do!

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No, I mean the check should be done upon registration. Not everyone has to see who you are - the platform/system can just check if you are a real user and if you have other accounts, and ext. The video can be temporary, then deleted, or a reverse image search can be used to compare footage from the video to other photos on the platform - introduction post for example. I think that again I'll receive hate because of this idea 😆😅😂

The video can be temporary, then deleted,

Because some jurisdictions use biometric ID, gaining the biometric data of a person in such jurisdiction enables fraudulently pretending to be that person in other jurisdictions, where financial fraud can be undertaken that will be connected to the ID theft victim, who would have no way of knowing about events ongoing in foreign jurisdictions. Because of such potential fraud I adamantly oppose ever using any biometric data, such as pictures or video of someones face, eyes, fingerprints, and etc, for any purpose on Hive.

Last I heard the biometric data of about half the population of India can be purchased on the darkweb for ~$80K. The incompetence of government and corporate entities to secure data is notorious. Not a day goes by that some new penetration isn't reported. In jurisdictions using biometric ID, people whose biometric data has been acquired by criminals can never, ever change their biometric data, and will be plagued by potential ID theft for the rest of their lives, and nothing can be done about that once their biometric data has been acquired by hostile parties.

Such data used for a temporary purpose might be deleted, or it might be claimed to have been deleted. I am not willing to take the chance that I might be subjected to criminal fraud for the rest of my life for the opportunity to open an account on Hive. I hope the vast majority of people interested in joining Hive aren't either.

You are right. Yet it was just an idea. Besides, we live in a world that already has our data. Phones require a fingerprint or a selfie, and we can't know for sure if that data isn't being uploaded somewhere, haha. Everyone has free will and decides for themselves whether to fake or cheat. There is no way to change that. But if we start attacking and blaming platforms or communities, won't we destroy this online world we've created here?

For example, communities demand originality - Hive Watchers and their rules actually teach us something, much like parents. Ecency and other front-ends give us the freedom to vote, promote and get support through automated systems or Google Pay. Most whales have invested time and money to become who they are. All of this just directs us to be better. But it is our free will that leads to mistakes - just as it does in the real world.

We often get hurt by communities, people or platforms and start making excuses or attacking others. This is the world we live in today. Crypto and Hive give us a chance to earn extra income, meet new people and places, and see the thoughts and creativity of others.

Yes, anonymity is a good thing, but why should we be afraid of who we are? We are different now, but sooner or later we will all end up in the same place - bodily, sorry 😆. Unfortunately this stuff will never change because it is part of who we are. The world is changing and so are we - we are adapting, bringing our personalities and problems from everyday life even online, and searching for easy path, always. It is this change that makes us lose faith in people.

Sorry for the long comment - just thought I'd share an opinion. Online worlds and platforms are no different from the real world because we participate in both. And again sorry if I got slightly off topic, haha. We just need to be a bit more positive, the world is already dark enough 😆😂

"Phones require a fingerprint or a selfie..."

Mine don't, and if they ever do, I'll not use a phone. I don't use any form of biometric ID, and I won't ever if I can prevent it in any way. I don't use Google anything, particularly not Google Pay. There are no excuses, there are only reasons. If I get scammed, there is no excuse and it's not the scammer's fault. It's my fault because I was vulnerable.

I have learned to avoid being vulnerable by having a great deal of wealth stolen from me. I was the weak link. I am unwilling to allow what I have to be stolen again, so now I do not do things that can enable thieves to take what I have from me.

It's not being negative, it's being responsible. You lock your door when you leave your home, right? It's just common sense.

"We just need to be a bit more positive..."

You may find it difficult to be more positive if you suffer theft of what you value very highly. On the other hand, if you have things you value very highly, you will feel very positive about having them, so not having what you have stolen from you increases how positive you can be. The best way to keep feeling positive is not to have things stolen from you, or to be victimized by criminals, so I hope you consider carefully before putting information out on the internet that can be used by clever thieves to take things from you.

Be well.

With the advancement of AI and picture/video generation you can fake them too.

But keep those ideas coming haha