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RE: HIVE: No Votes, No Attention - Thinking of Giving up?

in Writing Club2 years ago

'If you enjoyed this article please upvote it and I will return the favour.'

Ewww!

Perhaps @arcange can give us badges, 'Honorary members of the $0.00 club'?

I want a special one that says "Honorary members of the $0.00 club who also self-downvoted his first shitpost".

Man am I glad we've moved away from all the bid bot trending, quadratic voting curve and all other dumb shit we used to have that now seem so ridiculous in hindsight.

I remember when I first talked to @tarazkp in steem.chat and his posts looked quite similar to your early ones at the time, which sucked and showed how curation was lacking even though we did have quite a few curation projects around, most of the stake was still in whale's accounts and delegations had just become possible I believe. Guess you were just unlucky or not enough curators out there incentivized to look for such content from newcomers to reward, it's kind of a miracle you stuck around either way - probably thanks to @steevc's engagement and follow.

This is also something I've argued as to why we run things in ocd the way we do, where a small % of our daily voting power goes towards curators, moderators and other initiatives that are a net positive for hive's user retention. Now without the "curation sniping" curve it's even more important, cause let's face it, most people with stake aren't going to do the grind where they're out there looking for new authors to check if they're legitimate, post properly, are socially active, etc, to upvote and hope they stick around and have a better starting experience in their hive journey than we had, especially when there's the autovoting/trailing option that costs them way less time and no penalty to their apr. Similar to authors I think curators and moderators need also be rewarded for their time and effort to make this a better place, even though I know there are some who still do put a lot of time and effort into doing the grind even though they have a lot of stake, @steevc is for instance one of them.

Either way, with better distribution, so many years since the early days when you, taraz and me joined, it has gotten a lot better already which means that projects like ocd and others won't have to be relied on as much because there's going to be a lot more people with stake and when the prices are higher their upvotes are going to mean a lot more rewards and more people siding with curating manually than just going on auto and letting the rest do all the work. The next bull market will be crazy, hopefully we'll have a lot more options of getting into hive easier and faster and sticking with it by then.

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I want a special one that says "Honorary members of the $0.00 club who also self-downvoted his first shitpost".

That is.. an impressive feat!

it's kind of a miracle you stuck around either way - probably thanks to @steevc's engagement and follow.

I didn't expect anything.., maybe that's the difference between now and then? @curie was about the only thing going and was the target of all newbies. I know I got their attention as one of their curators started following me.

@steevc, oh yeah.. without a doubt. I used to wait for his vote heh...

where a small % of our daily voting power goes towards curators, moderators and other initiatives

It's the same with @curie now, I don't tend to give many votes out though. I could get more HIVE if I actively looked around more.

Now without the "curation sniping" curve it's even more important, cause let's face it, most people with stake aren't going to do the grind where they're out there looking for new authors

If I find someone, especially an explorer I will promote their stuff if it's good. I have found myself at times, when looking at a post that's $70 or so.., I did that, I promoted it. It's not a boast, I know it might not get any attention if I didn't do this. Makes one feel good knowing you have made someone feel the same.

The next bull market will be crazy, hopefully we'll have a lot more options of getting into hive easier and faster and sticking with it by then.

If people would stake more and sell less it would make a difference. Skin in the game is important. People look at wallets and are judged on them. I mentioned this in my post.. the 2016 account that has a 1c vote. It's their choice but don't complain when nothing happens.

We need investors, but some people just cannot afford to do that. If they create good content then they should still be able to prosper. Hive should be changing lives around the world.

I do have issues with projects like Curie having too much power, but we're stuck with that.

I want a special one that says "Honorary members of the $0.00 club who also self-downvoted his first shitpost".

Not sure if HiveBuzz's badge banner could contain such a long title. Such a badge would require its own tab on the board 😓

Haha was mostly a joke, although I would be interested in knowing how many self-downvotes I've made this far. :D

Easy answer: 20
You can do better! 😜

I realized that forfeiting post rewards through beneficiaries hurts my genuine supporters curation rewards less if I ever post something I know will get autovotes but doesn't have a lot of effort behind it or possibly value.

Rather than downvoting my own posts when I feel they get overrewarded, it's better to anticipate it becoming overrewarded (due to autovotes) and forfeiting part of the post rewards by sending beneficiaries to things like the DHF or posh, etc. This way some of the pupil who upvote it don't get penalized.

I was kidding, but I'm glad you rephrased it to make it easier to understand for those unfamiliar with the intricacies of Hive.