A Hive Launchpad via Peak Open Projects - A proposal

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The PeakD team has been active on Hive from the very beginning since before Hive was born.

Working on peakd.com, peakmonsters.com and several other projects has given us the opportunity to interact with the Hive community, understand their needs and brainstorm ideas and solutions that will help the whole ecosystem to move forward.

But we realize that some of the solutions will be much more powerful if we can launch new open accessible features and develop them in a way that will be useful to ALL Hive projects and communities, and are not limited to "PeakD only products" but instead are encouraged to be a part of many projects.
We hope that with the help of the community we'll be able to launch these ideas in a faster, decentralized and more sustainable way.

THEREFORE: For all the reasons stated above we are creating this DHF proposal to fund work on a large set of Open Source projects for the whole Hive community. (Aka a "Launchpad for Open Source Hive projects")

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This proposal is NOT for funding the development of PeakD.com and PeakMonsters.com ...though those projects are excited to be potential users of these new tools

WHY A SINGLE PROPOSAL?

There are multiple projects on the Peak Open Projects Roadmap and some developers already working on them. Having a single proposal allow us to scale the amount of work and to keep all those projects active for a long period of time. A single proposal gives us the opportunity to work on multiple tasks at the same time, easily transition to new projects upon completion and even decide to start working on additional popular projects that we have not included in our initial list. In addition some projects are inter-connected and require both to be worked on for either one of them to function to their highest potential. Having separate proposals model the shared recurring costs are harder to handle and the time spent developing to maintaining and promoting several projects takes away from end results. Also we want to avoid creating projects that once they get unfunded seem to vanish or loose steam... we want these projects to have staying power.

HOW IS OUR TEAM POSITIONED FOR SUCCESS?

  • Our team has broad knowledge of the whole Hive ecosystem: side chains, user/community needs and desires, dApps interaction, ...
  • We can bring together multiple developers working and giving each other insights
  • Can guarantee that those projects will actually get used. We want to be among the first to test and integrate the new tools
  • We have many connections and can coordinate to get new projects utilized by different websites (too many projects are created but not implemented throughout the Hive interfaces that could benefit)
  • Coordinate where new talent can be of most assistance when they come in to work on projects
  • Make sure that the projects are maintained even if original developers move on
  • Assess when it's best that someone else on the team take over a project
  • Provide UI (User Interface) and design experience. Focus on intuitive design
  • Handle infrastructure costs and management
  • Handle economic aspect in a transparent way (set recurring HBD transfers to members of project when possible and handle bank transfers where needed). We run our other projects in a fairly thrifty way
  • Community Feedback coordination (community votes, feedback reviews, large user base to test etc).

WHEN WE ARE DOING IT? ... NOW

We have already started working on several features (hired a couple new developers) and our team is now 4-5 people. You can vote on the proposal right now and the funding could start beginning of June if there are enough votes.

We are already paying developers but this will allow us to pay them for longer and for us to expand the team to work on more projects at the same time.

WHAT ARE WE WORKING ON?

You should expect to see future separate posts about each project and their progress from our team and the developers that work on each.

  • STING MESSAGE PROTOCOL - The idea is to build a decentralized and encrypted messaging system that can be used to share messages between Hive accounts and then later-on also allow broadcasting those messages to multiple users (similar to a group chat or public channel).
    We have a new developer who is passionate about this feature and we are researching technologies and creating POC (Proof of Concept) to make sure we have the best tech for an encrypted messaging system that can be utilized by all Hive based interfaces.
    We hope to see this integrated into every blog interface (that wants it) and also wallets, games and financial sites...

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  • NEXT GEN. HIVE BLOCK EXPLORER - There are multiple block explorers on Hive, but most of them have been built some time ago and only focus on showing the Layer 1 transactions. Nowadays Hive is much more than that with 2nd layer applications comprising the bulk of transactions. So we are building a new block explorer that can beautifully and intuitively display all block transactions AND can validate even 2nd layer Hive based transactions such as Hive-Engine, Splinterlands, Dlux etc.
    A simple MVP foundation of this new explorer is already being created and will be shared soon, stay tuned :)

  • HIVE NODE BEACON - This is an open source tool that was created a while back to check the health status of Hive API nodes. The tool is already working, but should continuously be maintained and upgraded.

  • HIVEMIND PLUGIN UPGRADES - This is an open source plugin that provides additional features and API to Hivemind. The plugin is a read-only addon and there are already multiple API nodes using it to provide PeakD.com with some specific endpoints to render part of the UI. As Hivemind is going to be migrated to HAF technology soon this plugin will required some work to be upgraded and improved. We hope that other interfaces will be able to benefit from this open source plugin as well.

  • HAF TOOLS - We want to fund several new HAF based tools and look forward to working with multiple developers who can use this great new technology created by the @blocktrades team.

    EXAMPLE: We assisted and pushed the start of work on a new Global Notification System which can do customized Hive notifications and also provide notifications for 2nd layer apps such as Hive-Engine or Splinterlands as well. Though we helped with initial funding this particular project is now requesting support through it's own HDF proposal by @imwatsi.

    We plan to back work on similar projects or support teams like the one led by @imwatsi and @blocktrades
    One example candidate is an open source system that tracks TIPS made to posts and that can support more 2nd layer tokens as well.

  • NEW HIVE WALLET - We believe it's important for Hive to have multiple options for intuitive wallet software which can be used to do transactions on Hive via various interfaces or stand alone software. We are big users and supporters of Hive Keychain and will continue to support their product and hope they continue to progress. This is a centralization issue and a push to make sure users have options. We also hope that this will result in teams pushing each other to provide the best for the Hive community.

We are just now starting this project and so there will be a lot of information/details about this project that we'll share in a dedicated post soon.

... NEXT

Above are what we are able start work on with the developers at our disposal (though more developers would make it faster)
Below are what we want to begin as soon as there is bandwidth (finishing of projects or onboarding of new developers)

  • HIVE BADGE DECENTRALIZATION AND UPGRADES - The badge system created by our team needs more upgrades and should be a decentralized open source project available for all user interfaces. Upgrades include but are not limited to: Easier tools to help create badges, user suggestion/application system for badge holders, stats and sorting mechanisms, display tools, badge feed page upgrades and potentially automated badge tools... etc

  • NEW INTERNAL MARKET INTERFACE - A new HBD-HIVE market interface that not only has more features but is also more intuitive to use and can be more easily integrated into other projects and markets. This post by @edicted indicates some of the issues of the old system that hasn't been updated in 4-5 years.

  • RC DELEGATION INTERFACE - With the upcoming release of RC delegation we know that an open source tool that interfaces can use to help users will be very important. We plan to make one for PeakD.com so it will be good to work on a system that multiple interfaces can input on and benefit from. The basic idea is that interfaces could decide to cover the RC cost of new users who do not have much HP yet.

  • TOKEN ROUTES - A tool that can be used to understand not just the cheapest route from one token to another but how many steps, estimate length of time, price drop estimates and educate on the pain points of token swaps in different exchange routes ... in particular for HIVE tokens and Hive 2nd layer tokens. Routes will encompass centralized and decentralized exchange/swap options.

  • "BLOCKCHAIN BOOTCAMP" aka Educational Tool that will help users get familiar with many different (or perhaps any) blockchain tools or Hive based projects. We envision this being used by many different interfaces to help educate their users about their features.

OTHER PROJECTS??

We have a big list already but we are open to adding more as we grow more capable.
Either new projects that are suggested and heavily voted by users OR older projects that never quite finished or want to be under this open source umbrella and stay maintained and integrated into other projects.

The community will have a heavy say in the features however ultimately you are trusting the Peak Open Projects team to make the final decision which we will base on the following:

  1. Do we have the manpower to do these projects? Are there developers capable and wanting to work on new projects?
  2. Do we have use cases for these features? Can they be integrated with other existing projects and websites? Is there interest by these websites?
  3. Will there be a long term interest in the feature and in it's continued development? Perhaps even self-sustainment after initial development?
  4. And of course... How much interest is there from the community? What are users saying on the feedback page https://feedback.peakd.com , Hive posts and on our discord?

JOIN THE CONVERSATION

We are obviously focusing on projects that our team knows can be easily integrated into other sites (such as PeakD.com and others) and these may take a lot of work but in the meantime we want to hear your ideas. We invite you to brainstorm some ideas with us... maybe it will help inspire a developer to work on them either separately or with us.

OUR QUALIFICATIONS TO RUN THIS PROJECT

We have built on this blockchain (both Steem and Hive) for 4+ years and have 2 of the most used user interfaces on the chain with peakd.com and peakmonsters.com, both of which have tens of thousands of visitors a day. We have also built smaller open source features.

We have already had a proposal funded for the PeakD.com project. It still has the record for the most voted Proposal in Hive history based on number of accounts that voted for it. We believe we were great stewards of the funds and have been able to extend the life of the funds to sill be able to operate and develop on PeakD.com (through bear and bull market cycles).

This time around we are excited to propose an Open Source funding proposal that can help lots of different projects save time and money while creating great features for Hive users.

We have a great relationship with the users of our products and they know they can make suggestions get responses and more importantly get results which often are very fast. This communication will be vital as we develop the tools that help the community.

ECONOMICS

We are asking for 600 HBD/DAY with this proposal
This covers the present expenses of the projects we are working on and will allow us to expand to a few of the other projects on our list as well (This includes starting now the Wallet software for example) and a couple of the other smaller projects in the Next Up list.

IF we find a lot of capable developers/team members and grow even larger we can expand the project with an addendum proposal (assuming users are happy with our work). But we will wait to do an addendum when we have a team large enough to justify it.

Funds will be stored on a dedicated account so it's easy for everyone to see the recurring transfers to pay the expenses of this project which primarily includes developers but may expand beyond that to tech costs, designers and management costs.

At the start of the proposal the incoming funds will be greater than the outgoing expenses and this gives us the wonderful opportunity to save up to have longevity on the project and also to handle the potential increase of new projects IF we find the right people or simply extend the length of time for the developers we have.

What is obvious is that the full scope of projects we want to do would not be all done simultaneously at the 600 HBD rate however we hope to complete some projects before starting on others and expect developers will be happy and request to move to new projects.

FAQ

Q. Why one proposal instead of multiple?

Already explained above, but a short recap is that a single proposal gives us the opportunity to work on multiple tasks at the same time, easily transition to new projects and even decide to start working on additional projects that we have not included in our initial list. Also there are several projects that will not be quite as good (and perhaps not worth doing) if only one of them gets funded.

Q. Where do you plan to host the code?

All code will be hosted here: https://gitlab.com/peakd

Q. Will you accept suggestions and pull requests?

Of course, and we may even compensate external developers if they provide "easy to merge" PR with useful features.

Q. Will you use funds to pay the PeakD team members?

Yes, but only for the hours spent by those team members working on the open source projects funded by this proposal.
(When PeakD team members work on projects their funds are sent to @PeakD to distribute.)

Q. What if you find that the funds are more than you really need?
If it's decided that the funds are more than what is needed long term we will give back funds to the Funding Pool. (In fact in our previous proposal we did return thousands of dollars to the fund when HBD spiked.) The hope is that we increase the list of things we work on so that this is less of a potential issue.

Q. How can I support this proposal?
You can vote and support this proposal using one of the following links:

We invite you to ask more questions.


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The PeakD Team

About us: https://peakd.com/about
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We have been voted as a top block producer on hive (aka "witness"). You can add your vote for us on the main witness page our "witness" account is @steempeak

VOTE HERE: https://peakd.com/witnesses

OPEN PROJECTS PROPOSAL
You can support our proposal to develop open source tools for the whole Hive community here: https://peakd.com/proposals/223

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Sounds good to me. We need all the Hive user interfaces to be good and some sharing of code will help with this. There can still be competition on presentation and features.

Wow, always building! :) My quick reactions:

  • Sting sounds great
  • Layer 1 + 2 block explorer sounds great
  • I want more NFTs! (with a real human UX)

!LUV

Woot ... peakd is stepping up to the game

Proposal supported.

Referring the NEXT GEN. HIVE BLOCK EXPLORER:
Getting specific informations about interesting stuff from the blockchain is a pain in the ass atm. Can we (please) get some endpoints for the hive blockchain history which we could query for ourselves? The web interfaces currently don't do their job well (or at all) and I would like to have some json based endpoints that I could query for myself with some simple curl commands. (If I missed something here then please point me to that direction please).

And also important: All the Diesel pools lack transparency atm. Could you please implement the necesessary tools along with the hive block explorer to bring some light into them?

Have a nice day. 🙂

I think we could do some open source stuff to help on hive-engine stuff.
But more importantly we are further along on the next gen block explorer than you think already as there have been a couple people working on it part time.

It’s gonna be ab amazing step by peakd team, supporting it wholeheartedly!
The upgradations are needed to make Hive more attractive and convenient in the web3 revolution
Hope Hive will be the pioneer in this technological spbere!

A fantastic proposal. I am so much in favor of creating open source tools that the whole ecosystem can benefit from. This is how we can grow fast, instead of everyone solving the same problems on their own. Hope all of this and much more gets funded.

Will you design and develop each tool with input from other dapps that could use it? So as to make sure it will be useful to them and satisfy their requirements. If each dapp has its own requirements, and a tool is designed without them in mind, then each dapp might still have to develop their own tool for their own use, which would negate the whole idea of developing a tool for use by the whole ecosystem.

For example, Splinterlands have talked about needing a messaging system. Are you talking with them about whether what you are developing will satisfy what they need? And other dapps as well? Like a survey that results in a list of requirements by the dapps. So it's not only the end users that are giving the feedback but the dapps also, as the main users of the tool.

We will for sure be looking forward to the input of other projects... we hope they're very involved in the discussions. There may be cases where they can or should adapt the code to fit their needs of course.

And yes we are big supporters of @splinterlands so it would be great to see them using the chat code for example. But they would probably have to adapt quite a bit to fit into their User Interface for example.

Right. I like to use WordPress as an example of a successful ecosystem that has worked out a good model for this. The WordPress core uses the minimum set of features that all websites likely need. Beyond that, there are plugins that people can add to their WordPress websites in order to get additional functionalities that they're interested in. WordPress core sounds very much like HAF, whereas additional projects like the ones you're building sound very much like HAF plugins (although they need not necessarily depend on HAF).

Now, the customizability part. Every website (or dapp in the case of Hive) has its own layout, its own design and workflow. To tackle this, there is the separation between the logic of a plugin and the presentation (frontend layout). In WordPress, this is solved by having themes - just by changing the theme, the presentation of a plugin is greatly changed, even though all the functionality is still there.

Furthermore, to additionally enable an extremely powerful level of customizability, there are hooks all over the code of both WordPress core and plugins. The hooks allow for changing any part of the behavior and appearance. So for example, if a dapp uses the chat functionality, it would be able to easily tweak any aspect of the appearance and functionality, and even add additional functionalities. This way, more than 95% of the work is already done and the dapp has to do only the remaining 5% or so for customizing it to their own needs.

This also helps with keeping things up to date - when there are updates to the plugins, the dapps can simply update to the latest version and in almost all cases everything will still keep working. This will also greatly incentivize dapps to contribute back to the plugins, with code and/or funding, so that they help the overall ecosystem.

All of this is already happening in practice with the WordPress ecosystem, I'm just saying we can take those lessons learned and apply them here.

Are there design documents or specs for the projects you are working on that one can contribute to?

Count me in. Voting for your proposal. You want suggestions ??? zappl tried, #projectblank is MIA, d.buzz is trying. Is very important to have a successful micro blogging solution on hive, the peakd team can do it.

It would be nice if there was an open source solution for this need that the whole community was on board with and then all the interfaces could roll with it. Actual implementation seems at the private project level but maybe the underlying tech could be open source.

Proposal supported. Y'all been doing good things for a while now.. keep it up

PeakD team has always been on top of the game.

This one's a no-brainer. I have supported this proposal.

Voted, interested to see what comes of this and getting more projects involved into Hive. You'd done great work with both PeakD and PeakMonsters!

I've supported the proposal and hope you are able to get it funded. You guys have always done a great job!

Thanks for peakd too

Great goals and great projects.
I love Peakd and Peakmonsters and supporting this proposal is absolutely something I do with the conviction that I have done well!
Supported!

ok very cool, you have my vote because i use peaked since the start.

STING MESSAGE PROTOCOL

is my favorite. If you find a way to make it available for mobile phones as a hive whats app competition, could be huge as a open source solution.

I see this as a backbone for games, social media and mobile if it works nice.

NEW INTERNAL MARKET INTERFACE

It is cool but IMo not necessary, it would improve if Hive would allow a pool on L1 onchain, so an update could be very useful to place orders for swings in the pool.

But for now, I think making it better looking is not an improvement IMO, maybe if trigger orders come into places like OCO or LO or SL. But for that, the liquidity is too bad.

Maybe it could be L2? then it would be worth to improve it with a pool.

Easy yes for me.

That sounds like a reasonable amount for the work required and we already have huge proof of work done and capability to build great products.

These all sound like great projects for the chain.
If possible I would also love to see quick onboarding with lite accounts similar to what leofinance have built.

Also the ability to earn ad revenue from the site would be a huge incentive for the users either as a whole platform that the revenue could be used to buy hive and redistribute to all hive users or as a single user or community that we could opt in for ads on our page and earn directly.

External revenue and new users are two of the key points that we are missing out on which could really help the chain to grow. It would be great to see the site grow to rival sites medium and eventually surpass it with features like these that empower the community combined with everything listed above.

An open source sort of protocol for ads or promoted posts would be an interesting idea for the project to tackle. Not sure how many other interfaces would be interested as some of them either go with their own systems already or don't like ads on their interfaces. We did create a system that could be adapted perhaps and a second attempt at seeing if there is interest by the interfaces who would need to decide to impliment the software.

Very interesting content, as a project owner, I approve all that you do and I have complete trust in your team, management and vision! EXODE is in support.

I'll also mention it soon to our channels and in the next interviews.

We hope that other projects building on the chain will be excited in some of the features and help indicate which projects will benefit them the most and which ones they're most likely to integrate or have their users use in some way etc.

Great proposal. I think community involvement in feature discussions is a good step forward, as public discourse will bring many new ideas into focus.

Thanks for supporting GNS, glad to be working on it with you. I can't wait to see it live on the frontends.

100% supporting this one!!

If you could add encrypted posts/communities to this list so that only members of that community could view and comment, I think that would have great utility. For example, there could be a witness community where witnesses can post and comment on chain about ideas, etc that don't need to be made widely public.

Encrypted messages are a thing on Hive with memo, but not scalable and not totally free. Imagine everyone using Hive to send thousands of messages, the Blockchain would possibly be bottlenecked. So far I haven't seen a bottleneck on Hive, it is a very fast and powerful Blockchain, but messaging would totally make the data usage skyrocket.

Good points. I actually edited my comment after making it to remove that part before seeing your reply. :)

I have projects so this is great news!

Tell us what you're thinking.

I need to speak with some devs. I want to get my website hooked back up to the chain. I have a few games I am designing and working on, have spent a decent amount of time thinking about communities, and I have ideas for hive-engine token markets. Team work makes the dream work right? I also am building a robot this year, started a show on leofinance last year, and some other stuff as well.

Give us a holler over on discord maybe there's an opportunity to work together

Keep the good work, I will vote your proposal

You have my vote. Your team has been on top of things since the days of SteemPeak.

Me gusta mucho la idea de un chat grupal, pero creo que darian en el clavo si hacen una especie de telegram o whatsapp decentralizado donde se puedan dar megusta a los msj y ganar pequeños porcentajes de hive.

seria un golpe tremendo para estas empresas centralizadas

These projects are mind-blowing 🔥🔥
You've got my full support

This really deserves my post and support,,,great work from the team,, this is what Hive is all about

You folks have my support, as usual. Keep up the good work. It's appreciated.

supported the proposal

we are building a new block explorer that can beautifully and intuitively display all block transactions AND can validate even 2nd layer Hive based transactions such as Hive-Engine, Splinterlands, Dlux etc.

Supported, How about coming up with some tutorials on how to build on the second layer ?

Supported 😎
Sounds great… keep up the good work!
Have an awesome new week 👋🏻🐝

👍

peakd are leading the charge with dapps and hive development. well done!

Supported ❤

Supported and rehived :-)

sounds wonderful! Can we have it all by next week? ;)

I would also really like to see an upgrade to the search tool on peakd... it has a terrible UX (laggy, slow etc.) One way to improve it almost instantly is to stop/improve the auto fill suggestions. I can't count how many times I have mispelled a name because I typed too slow and it searched already. Please fix this :) 🙏

Supported 👍

That would be a peakd.com upgrade and we do have plans to upgrade the search UI and hopefully along with that the speed. So we agree... there are lots of upgrades needed for search.

This is really awesome and also a wonderful development.

Remember when i almost got steempeak to integrate @telosnetwork with @jarvie and the others? Well now hive x telos is a official alliance and ya know

That proposal system boy... she just waitin there for us

More power to peakd and hive!

!PIZZA

ok

Hi is there an app to use on my phone so I can post when out and about and also read 💯🐒

Why not just using PeakD.com on your phone? I used it just now to reply to your comment 😊

Yes found it now had to install my keychain. That was the problem 👌🏼




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that's a great recap @enjargames

You guys made it easy to bullet point out a couple of things for a Tweet sized message with how clear and to point you are.

Okey 👍 lo tomaré en cuenta. Gracias por tu voto 😊

I'm studying a lot. I really want to one day collaborate in the development of our wonderful ecosystem.

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I will look into this. Thanks for the valuable information.