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Telling a fighter it's time to retire is one of the most challenging aspects of the job. Fighters are inherently driven and often want to continue, even when the signs of decline are evident. As a trainer, it's crucial to have those honest conversations, especially with high-profile fighters like Anthony Joshua.

"that moment that's when you really got to think you got to see the desire but boxing's a little bit different you know you got to be physically 100% if you start fading if you start taking too many shots if you're not you know as robust as you used to be especially in the heavyweight division becomes very dangerous."