a new project that we have running which is run by egglet who has one of those very difficult to pronounce last names and speaking to of difficult to pronounce last names this week's episode is co hosted with my colleague Chad and Chad tell us who you are and then also how we say your last name hi yes my name is Chad Swarthout really happy to be here I'm a board member here at the Consumer Choice Center but in my day job I run an IT consulting company called Electrona we help a number of businesses integrating Apple devices into their corporate IT environments and also build some software around automating some common IT challenges for Apple IT organizations. Fantastic well it's it's very tech based what you do and so I thought we might as well bring out some tech topics that have been at least one of which has been on a topic on the consumer podcast that you listen to right now in some of the episodes we've discussed VPNs virtual private networks a lot of people will know them because (2/33)