Look both ways

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As my wife drove Smallsteps to daycare this morning, she was quiet in the back for a moment thinking and then asked;

"When are you and Daddy going to die?"

When my wife took me to hospital, Smallsteps' grandparents picked her up and I went to the door to say goodbye. For me, I literally said goodbye to her, giving her hugs and kisses, told her how much I loved her and to have a good time. She could see that I was in some pain and knew I was going to hospital, but didn't of course understand all of the details.

Since I have been home, she has been a little standoffish in some way - when she remembers, but most of the time she has been her normal, clever and silly self.

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We have discussed death before and she knows the concept well enough, but she has obviously been thinking about what death means and building upon her understanding from what she has known of it so far. It was just before Christmas that our beloved dog moved on and coincidentally, today is the first anniversary of my dad's passing last year. Coming to terms with the concept and then making the connection to those you see daily and rely on, must be quite a revelation.

My wife assured her that while nothing is guaranteed, we like most people will probably live until we are much older and she doesn't have to worry about these things. I am careful not to lie to Smallsteps about even this kind of thing, as if something were to happen to me for example, she would then potentially feel that her mother lied and didn't prepare her, leaving an avenue for bitterness and resentment to form.

There are probably a whole lot of books available on how to talk to kids about these kinds of topics, but then considering how much we supposedly know, children do not seem to be becoming more capable at dealing with the world of disappointment they inevitably meet.

Death is one of those topics we tend to avoid from sheer discomfort, even though it truly is the great unifier between us all, no matter our race, religion or economic position. Try as we might, there is no cheating death eternally.

Yet, despite the universal commonality of it, we are increasingly taking the approach that it is something unexpected, undeserved, unlikely. I am always when people say things like, "I am worried my parents will get Covid and die" when their parents are in their late eighties. At what point is it inappropriate to expect parents to keep on surviving life? When you are a babyboomer born after the first world war, it is probably time to at least mentally prepare.

But, I am 42. That isn't exactly elderly and considering that despite me having a few unwanted kilos stopping my abs from showing, I am in relatively good condition, my untimely demise would be just that, untimely. However unexpected though, it isn't unheard of, even in advanced countries, as disease, accident and misfortune are a constant companion of life and will be for the foreseeable future.

Some people take this to mean that they have to make every day count, as you only live once and you might get hit by a bus tomorrow. You do only live once and you might be hit by a bus tomorrow, but the chances are that you won't be hit tomorrow, or the next day, or any other day in your life and will probably live much like my wife described - a long and happy ordinary life.

It is because of the statistical probability of mortality and life outcome that guidelines can be made on what we may need in the years after retirement, and what we need to do now in order to get there. Living life as if we aren't going to get that far means not doing the work necessary or not using the work to prepare for those times adequately, leaving us well short financially.

Just think, the average Australian family drives 1.8 cars, yet the average Australian only has about 50% of the superannuation they need at their current age group.

ASFA estimates that the lump sum needed at retirement to support a comfortable lifestyle is $640,000 for a couple and $545,000 for a single person. This assumes a partial Age Pension.

This also assumes owning one's house.

Of course, not everyone wants a comfortable lifestyle in their old age.

While I want to be working for as long as I possibly can, I don't want to have to be grinding away for a crust of bread to eat in order to make ends meet. I want to have a "comfortable lifestyle" where I can choose what I do and how I do it. There are far too many elderly people I have met who are suffering and struggling, even though they had ample opportunity to prepare for a better experience.

People often say to me "you have to live life now" and the like, yet many of those same people are not actually enjoying the life they are living now, often complaining about not having enough in order to be able to enjoy their experience. Sure, life can't just be filled with work alone and preparing for a future that may never come, but what we do daily is going to affect what we can do daily, meaning that the future that people keep not preparing for will eventually arrive and they will inevitably find themselves unprepared.

Being unprepared for reality is more stressful than feeling like having missed out on opportunity, because it has an immediate impact on experience. I don't worry about all of the steak dinners I haven't eaten, but all of those steak dinners would be meaningless at the time I am hungry and have no money in my pocket.

But they aren't meaningless, are they?

It would have been all of those little decisions one way over another that would have eventually surmounted to those empty pockets. We see this played out time and time again, where people say "just this once" without remembering that last week or yesterday, there was another "just this once" and there always has been.

People have done the coffee a day into bitcoin calculations and the return is obviously insane over the space of years, but even with the most conservative of investment approaches, it would be significant over the space of decades.

Having a retirement fund doesn't replace a parent if they die, but if the parent lives, it means that a child doesn't have to try and live a life and also provide for a parent, or worry about whether they are able to feed themselves.

I don't know if I will survive til old age in this life, but if I do, I don't want to be a burden on Smallsteps. And if I don't, I want to be able to be a support for her even in my absence so she can have an easier financial life than I have had, because I believe she has far more important things to do with her potential, than spending all her attention and energy having to work for money.

We might only live once and we might be hit by a bus tomorrow, but I choose to be prepared for living a life beyond my own as I have a child, and making sure that I look both ways before crossing the street.

Taraz
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That whole 'wealth is greed' rhetoric, (mostly from the left) is such short term thinking.
There's a line in the sand. "Anyone with more than x couldn't spend it in a dozen lifetimes, so is greedy for hoarding it".
Then they print money like madmen, so that even half a million dollars isn't enough to comfortably retire on.
If my children are going to need wheelbarrows full of money to buy a meal, then maybe x isn't 'too much money for one person to spend' after all.

Yeah, living long enough and not being a liability to kids is generally the goal of every parent. I think it's funny how the concept of death only haunts us when we think about old age. I once spoke to my parents about that idea. It makes them feel like they could guilt us into doing a lot coz they're old. They would be like "come home this weekend, you know you have old parents", they made it seem like only old people die until I spoke to them extensively about it.

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I hope I never have to "guilt trip" my daughter - But I suspect that it will end up being a go-to approach, otherwise she will never be home for Christmas :)

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My older sister broke it down for me in an understandable way when I was a little boy. She said "Dying is when you go to sleep and you never wake up."

That clicked for me and the full horror built until I went to my parents in tears after sis told me they would die as they got older.

Seeing how terrified I was for them, my mom and dad assured me they were not going to die and I was able to calm down and breathe a sigh of relief. They thought I wasn't old enough for this yet and told my sister not to scare me like that. However, I think you are taking a wise approach to be honest with her in a calm way.

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did that soften the blow?

I think Smallsteps has a decent understanding of what death is - but she is just starting to think about what the death of others means for her.

The concept of eternity is impossible to imagine for a human - as are the concepts of nothingness and non-existence.

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I was crying and shaking in fear for them as I was still in single digits. If they had confirmed what my sister said, I would have been sick with worry for them. They wanted me to enjoy life as their son and not worry about their passing. Yes, it was what I needed at the moment and I'm glad they did that way at that time. It allowed me to learn on my own when I was a bit older.

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I was trying to remember how it was introduced to me, but can't. When I was young, my mother's best friend and someone we considered family, died from cancer. I think I was around 8, but I remember by that time it was already quite "normal" for me.

So what the death are a dangerous but necesary topics?
for tomorrow how can i will live tomorrow? but if i do not go or do not will going to arisen to tomorrow without life
well you say your wife will said what happens with you, if tomorrow you do not make the work that let you value by yourself .
and you maybe not a support to your family and convert you as a problem for them, that you need the support for make things simple as to going to go to the bath.
it is hard, in this moment you evaluate how strong is the love, i know friend that when they losses their capacity to make thing bu themselves, their wifes, leave them alones.
it is hard but necesary to consider, the other you have a fortune in cripto are you explain to your wife how to get it if you are not here and death tomorrow, it is hard but necesary to discusses.
well the parents, my parents have around 80 too and depend about my fortunately i support the family slowly but i can do it and i would like that if i could get child, i would like that her or him visited to me every week and talking with me and give me support as i support my parents, but i am prepared for this scenario do not ocurred.
well if you need to changued the food to day, star to day, i see a studies that say how people without a lot of commodities today are living very well in the future with around 90 or 95 yeard old
i explain this point, people that eating bread, meat and all kind of delicious and nutritional foods and do not smoke or drink alcohol, their lifes spectation are around 60 of 70 years of life
and the other that work hard, do not eat good, i said eated only beens every time during a lot of yeard and smoke, and drink a lot of alcohol in their lifes, they lives around 90 or 95 years, the point is tha sciences do not explain this but i believe that is that their stomach do not are support a lot of encimes and always are soft substances in their digestive system that do not produce chemistry bad.

i know friend that when they losses their capacity to make thing bu themselves, their wifes, leave them alones.

I wonder if I would want my wife to stay? I think I would prefer to be unhappy if she had a chance at happiness with another.

Healthy living is no guarantee to a long or good life, but I think that on average, unhealthy living generally leads to poor outcomes that are painful.

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Sure, life can't just be filled with work alone and preparing for a future that may never come, but what we do daily is going to affect what we can do daily, meaning that the future that people keep not preparing for will eventually arrive and they will inevitably find themselves unprepared.

I reckon at least one big, life-changing opportunity comes the way of every individual in their lifetime. The reason why we do not notice is probably because the majority of us were simply unprepared to seize the opportunity

"seize the day" should be replaced by "missed the day"

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I was aware of my health but not overly concerned about it for many years. It wasn't until my cancer diagnosis and a friend who is just a couple of years older than me having a heart attack that I really started to kick my butt into gear. As for when and what is the right thing to tell kids, I defer that to my wife. She is the LMSW!

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What was the first thing you changed in your ways?

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I have been getting up every weekday morning at 4 am and exercising for at least twenty minutes.

You can try tomorrow but it is more important to look on both sides to be careful about the Future Days Although we don't know how much time we have in this life to lead

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Life is past, present and future.

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I just had the anniversary of my mom a couple of weeks ago and I will say that I took care of my mom in her last year of life, even moving in with her and abandoning my family for a 6-month stretch because she couldn't live alone and lived 800 miles away from me.

I could take a leave from work.

My point is, I could afford to do it, nobody else in the family could. I saved for college for the kids, put enough money away for emergencies like this. It was doable. That aside, I get what you mean. I don't want to be a burden on any of my family when I reach that point. I didn't mind, but, I do mind disrupting my kid's life. They are young enough now that if something should happen to me, they will be financially and personally cared for.

I think every parent worries about this.

I hope you are feeling a little better.

Still don't see why you can't both do stuff towards your future AND enjoy yourself some in case you unexpectedly drop dead tomorrow XD

but maybe it's because there's very few things I go all or nothing on

Given that when a child is in single digits pretty much anyone in double digits is a living relic, I don't think she would feel like wifey had lied to her and not prepared her, especially if at least gets that things get old and die and sometimes get sick and die even when they're not old.

Some kids at that age will be like oh okay then and others will stress the absolute hell out about it til they either get over it or get some reassurance. I remember one of my friends' kids being really mad about the fact that they weren't going to be young forever XD

Looking in most directions that you know there might be potential danger seems like a good idea x_x