We are a bunch of "businesses" with a lack of "customers" besides other "businesses", some of whom are trying to market a very similar product. There's no way to gain a reward from a new "customer" as they must become a business first to do that.
Even if we were to get some mainstream content creators to move to HIVE, and even IF they could get their viewers to come too, all of their viewers have no way to reward the content creator they followed here once they arrive. Then they have to learn a whole new system, learn how to gain rewards so they can give them out, all while avoiding the Hive Police and downvotes. The content creator is stuck waiting for their viewers to be able to reward them.
People do need to take it more seriously if they expect to be a top content creator with top rewards... Top content creators on other platforms don't just treat it like a business, most of them are actual businesses running the show.
But the rest of us need to accept the mainstream garbage that comes along with an average consumer, as they are our meal ticket and chasing them away with downvotes and control will leave us with only producers, and a complete lack of consumers.
I get that we need downvotes to stop abuse, but downvoting someones content because they suck at creating content is along the same lines as kicking someone because they are disabled IMO. Some people are just not that good, don't need to kick em for it.
Save the downvotes for blatant plagiarism, post spam attacks and highly illegal or unacceptable content. Normal people can't take a thumbs down too many times for just being themselves before they decide they don't want to be around that anymore.
Who got downvoted because they suck? And who downvoted them? May I see an example please so this problem of "kicking disabled people" can be remedied.
Read the on chain downvote history, along with the comments of those who downvoted.
The term "I do not agree with the rewards given to this post" comes, or came up a lot. It's easy for the person receiving that downvote to think, "Me or my content sucks too much to receive X amount of reward." Then they turn around and see similar content trending, sometimes upvoted by the very account that downvoted them.
Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is, HIVE is a product, and the content on Hive is also a product. All products need producers and consumers. Producers here (for the most part) are your long form content creators, and photographers. Consumers are your average account that doesn't post quality content, but views others content. Your average user isn't going to post high quality content, just like your average youtube account probably doesn't even have a video uploaded, and if they have any uploaded, it's low quality content... We want many of these average accounts here posting their average content making an average of very little for their average post.
I used to read a lot of complaints about downvotes, not so much anymore. The downvoting has slowed, but has it slowed because the downvoters changed their strategy? Or has it slowed because the users targeted have mostly left?
Where are all our consumers? We had plenty... There was a shit load of average Joe's and Janes spewing their gibberish all over the chain, and now they are an endangered species near extinction. I want them back, and if they do decide to come back, I would appreciate it if others didn't chase them away.
Maybe ask the "people who suck" directly to produce more "gibberish." Encourage them.
You're doing great, could you produce more content please? 🤣
But seriously though you are correct, they do need encouragement. I think threads will help the average user.
Now you're catching on. I think you have your roles mixed up a bit.
Since Hive is a decentralized blockchain, and each one of these content creators is like a business owner, I'd say it's each individual's responsibility to attract consumers. And if people wanted their businesses to make money, that would require paying consumers.
A paying consumer wouldn't walk into a shop and begin sweeping the floor to earn money from the shop owners before being able to make a purchase. They'd simply bring their money with them.
An individual with stake is a paying consumer in this scenario. Staking tokens in order to support products the consumer wants is a good deal to the consumer since their money isn't spent and they actually have an opportunity to earn consumers perks like "curation" reward and upvotes on their comments.
There are also a few shortform content platforms on Hive someone wishing to play that role might be interested in. Threads and Dbuzz for example. Very few posting in that fashion are being downvoted for it. It's encouraged.
So what they need are fewer people injecting fear and gibberish in their heads, like you're doing, and more encouragement. In a way I guess you'd call that "good customer service" and really, it's up to each and every individual to provide that.
The platform has a lot of people attempting to double as both content creators and consumers. Consumers show up thinking they need to become content creators, which of course isn't going to work.
Their role along with the perks and benefits needs to be highlighted more. They also have games to play though some of those games can be tricky for the average consumer to get into.
I've been talking about this stuff for years. I compared accounts to businesses in a post here several years before task wrote this post.
What product are we talking about here? HIVE the token, HIVE the blockchain, Hive the blogging platform, the content on Hive? Hive is made up of several products, and each should be marketed to their intended users differently.
Customers (assuming the product is content) don't have to bring their money with them to view content most other places for the creator to get paid, they simply view the content and become the product for ad revenue, and the site owner passes a small portion to the content creator.
As you said, here users end up trying to double as creators and consumers, here the lines get blurry, users get confused by their roles, everything gets wonky. There's no direct connection between ad revenue and the users who bring those views either.
I'm not trying to sew fear, this is the first time I brought any of it up (I think anyways). Just talking about what I've seen.
Hive is a decentralized blockchain. That's all. Various products exist on Hive. LEO is marketing itself. PeakD markets itself. Splinterlands markets itself. And so on. Content creators also create products independently. A content creator doesn't market Hive unless they're a Hive marketer creating content meant to market Hive. I'm a writer and artist. My consumers come to read and look at art. If they shared outside, that would be marketing, which could potentially lead outside consumers to my product and the platform it resides on (also a product) which is both my platform and one of the various products hosting my content, which they own.
Confused yet?
That's right, consumers don't have to bring their money. I can personally support their engagement on my own. Paying consumers do bring their money if they choose to. Much like how on Youtube or twitch, only some people spend money on tips.
If people leave comments under my post, I am consuming that content and rewarding it. If I'm out browsing content and voting, I am a paying consumer. I've both earned and purchased stake. I can manage both creator and consumer roles well. Not everyone can and that's understandable.
Now you're talking about ad revenue and we don't even have ads here. LEO does. If you want that ad rev you must purchase tokens...
And there was nothing encouraging about your first comment. It was all fear mongering and senseless negativity. But to give you credit, I do understand how things can be frustrating here at times. If you see problems, they can be remedied. I'd like to attempt to solve that problem but your description isn't accurate, which is why you didn't come back with an example to show me. You're being an alarmist rather than a problem solver.
It's time to move on. I don't feel like talking in circles today. Hopefully things get better for you and you can enjoy your time here once again.
No, just pump them out. Slaughter, plunder, Arr Arr.
You're one of the most helpful people here. And I hope you like sarcasm.
I can't take the drama anymore. Let's just have fun and enjoy the ride till the next fork hits. The Tech is good, the current implementation here is mid.
So why come stir shit up?
I thought I'm being funny, making people take the chill pill.
My war was HOT when it was cool, now everyone and his mother is complaining loudly against the Downvotes and Hive Owls. There will be a change with one of the upcoming forks, these witnesses aren't fluffing stupid.
Explain how it's funny.
So it's funny.
I feel offended, why would I be offending anyone posting a cat meme? #rude
So now I'm the problem?
No, I love reading your comments, why do you feel that way?
That is true but there are many layers to Hive. I dont think that too many appreciate it. Games are another aspect to Hive that is going to be business for many. But you defaulted to content creation, which is sensible since that is the only thing that was here for so long.
Also people over look layer 2 because of the fact no tokens have really amassed much value. I have a feeling that will change once we have a breakthrough of the first one. I am sure you can guess what I think it will be.
The ecosystem needs to focus upon wealth generation. That is the key. It does not come simply from looking or focusing upon the main reward pool. That is a major part of it but not the only game in this town.
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