Hive's Middle Class Gets Stronger And People Drop An Opportunity

In my last article, Hive Middle Class Developing, we discussed how the HP (which are technically represented as MVests) of the middle class is expanding. This was related to a thread that was sent out which noted how much HP the Orcas and Dolphins had.

Here is the thread again:

https://inleo.io/threads/view/nonameslefttouse/re-leothreads-2ja2szhqx

It was noted how this is more than enough to get any proposal funded or, on the flipside, move the return vote to a level that nothing gets funded.

At the same time, it was also shown how the HP along could get a witness to around 22 on the witness list. These two categories alone could almost get consensus.

Of course, some had the typical responses.

I am nothing more than a hopium seller. The tokenomics of Hive suck and the whales are greedy.

In short, it was the usual complaints and, in my view, excuses. This is why the average person doesn't succeed. Are there challenges? Of course. However, that is where success comes from.

There were, nevertheless, some GEMs which stimulated this article.

Here is one:

We are looking at a new orca in the making. The key is not the result but what went into it. It took 5 years and, what was unsaid, a lot of effort. I see this account regularly online, engaging in different ways.

This is one who is taking advantage of the opportunity.

Which brings us to the crux of this article: Hive's middle class.

Hive's Middle Class Is Getting Stronger

For years I put together a monthly report denoting how the breakdown of HP was. Over time, it was clear things were shifting. This is why I could ignore the noise since it didn't reflect the data.

The only thing that could be questioned was the pace, the direction was clear.

However, this point was brought up again:

Here will take a look at the data to determine what is happening.

Again, we will use the reports posted by @arcange. Unfortunately, he has not posted them in a couple months, something I hope he decides to get back to.

MVests Held

Nevertheless, when it comes to the HP breakdown, we have these two charts:

The first is from the report on 2/1/22:

The total percentage of the Orcas, Dolphins, and Minnows is 44.7%.

Now let us go to the most recent report, on 2/1/24:

The same categories have 46.4% of the total. This is a change of 3.8% from where things stood two years ago. In other words, the middle class, as defined here, has 3.8% more influence than before.

accounts

How do things look with accounts? Are they growing or not?

Here is the chart from 2/1/22:

At that time, there were 10,195 accounts in these categories. According to the breakdown, 4,814 were active although I am not sure of the metric used.

Going ahead two years, here is what we see:

The total is 10,959. In the active category, we have 5,430.

This appears to be a significant increase in the active category, a total of 616. This is a growth rate of 12.8% over that time. In contrast, the total grew by just under 800.

In Conclusion: The System Is Working

This was the title of the reports I did years ago.

Does Hive have flaws? Most certainly. However, the takeaway should be the system is working in spite of the challenges. For all the complaints about what is wrong with the ecosystem, the numbers clearly show the direction. This is no different than what I saw before.

Again, people can point to the pace of things but we cannot contest where they are heading.

So, once again, we are back to activity. To increase the pace of change, the middle class simply has to get more active. There are many in there posting a few times a week. Why not double that, from say 3 articles to 6. If one is regularly making 10 comments, do 20.

The opportunity is here for those who want to take advantage of it. However, there are two keys to success:

  • activity
  • time

It is often said most miss opportunities because it comes disguised as work. Success on Hive requires effort. It also is a long term commitment. This does not happen overnight.

People are free to chose. Is one going to believe this is nothing more than hopium and allow that to stop one from being active or is one going to use this is motivation.

Hive is a permissionless system. Anyone can enter and get active. The only roadblock could be a lack of resource credits and plenty are willing to delegate to a new user who is willing to get active.


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The numbers of dolphins and orcas are going up, so some of the middle class are active. Minnows are a bit stagnant and that shows we have work to do. Many people join and just don't stick around.

Yes, some people get discouraged when things don't go as expected, instead of shifting their priorities, changing the nature of their content, or tweaking their approach to the opportunity. If it looks like work, they go the opposite direction.

I think everyone should get a fair chance here, but they can't expect to earn from no effort. Those who help the community tend to benefit.

Middle class growing should provide better decentralization which is the essence for the health of the Hive blockchain. With around 38K Hive power probably I am in that class and my target is to level up. There is only UP where we can go.

I think having the patience and time to build a long term career on Hive requires time, effort and energy to get going and moving forward with little.
But still I think this would be a better platform apart from some ill minded users who project a syndicate and look for only their betterment.

Some of the good quality posts are ignored of the proper supports and other lesser ones are getting attention more than they deserve.

Thats the case, anyway wishing good luck to the person discussed upon. Have a nice day.

Hmmm, why not just take on another job and earn more elsewhere in less time? You aren't making a case that helps Hive grow. You are just showing why the masses aren't coming. Keep saying wen and before wen comes another platform that addresses the issues here will have taken off, leaving Hive right where it always has been; a potential never realized.

If Hive is the equivalent to a job and it is, it needs to compete financially. It doesn't on the scale necessary to compete. Keep getting rich off your hopium, but it's not giving Hive what it really needs. I say it's actually what's holding it back, because rather than fixing anything it's stalling by convincing the (FEW) here to wait and work harder. The latter is really not in the masses best interest, because there are better alternatives.

Time to get real, because HOPIUM isn't progress!!!
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The potential far outweighs the setbacks. Those who believe otherwise can start looking elsewhere for a "fairer" system.

I believe that to grow in Hive you need commitment and dedication.

Lately I have been absent due to personal problems, but this does not mean that I could still have committed myself to continuing my growth even more slowly.

However, I believe that Hive should be experienced on two levels, as an investment and as a passion; even without writing for a while I continued to use my account to read a bit, vote and I bought some Hive.

I love writing and this is the passion side, to avoid slowing down in the future I have decided that Hive will officially be my personal blog so I have set up my account on my own address and I only write here.

However, the future remains bright on Hive and I am sure that the commitment will pay off.

Your post is nice, very interesting.

Gradually on the hive Blockchain, people are growing and gaining ground and this is great to see on the platform

opportunity disguised as work. Indeed there is a need to put commitment into this platform to scale. It requires patients anyway and one of the ways is to find good and engaging friends

As for critics, it's everywhere. Best or not best, you'll always be confronted.

There seems to be difference in interpretation of the data. With some saying the increase in the middle class is just the whales making new accounts and delegating to it, while others are just taking it for what it is; an increase in accounts staking HP. Personally, I think it could be both, but that doesn't really affect me. I for one will keep increasing my stake because I believe in the potential of Hive.

Minnows are not showing much activity and growth not too good may be work there needs to be done.

Please help me to understand in simple words
How much HP we need at each levels?

These are not exact, but they're pretty close:

577 HP - Minnow
5,700 HP - Dolphin
57,700 HP - Orca
570,000 HP - Whale

The old timers still in the middle class - over 4000 posts and every day for years on end. Might be time to flog some Bitcoin and buy whale status

This is excellent data. I wouldn't say you're selling hopium. I regularly defend Hive when others off-chain criticize it. In fact, in my last post, I address The Whale Myth. I do wonder, however, what the numbers were right after the hard fork? Did we see a dip in the middle class before we saw a rise? If so, how big was that dip? An ongoing monthly report on these numbers would tell a great deal after a year or so.

Much agree on this piece. I'm a living example of an user that could grow 3x times more of what is doing right now but still lags and slacks and ofc put some RL issues in front. But I totally get the potential and I'm convinced that anyone in 2024 can make if not a living, at least a decent complement if it devotes a few hours a day to Hive/Leo.

¿Hive middle class rising and getting stronger?

Of what freaking Middle Class are you talking about? Because if for such assertion you are basing your guesses on the charts of @arcange. It has never occurred to you that this slight increase in the number of dolphins and orcas with the corresponding decrease in the number of whales that is shown in the graphs. All this supposed increase in the number of members of the "middle class" it simply corresponds to the HP delegations that these and the same whales of always have just made to a group of their own alt accounts to simply diversify their "curation" incomes and obfuscate their true capital a bit better?

Or like it is also more than obvious that it has also happened. That many of these same whales simply have delegated a large amount of their huge HP with the same ill intention as the previous procedure, to a heap or handful of docile slaves and parasitic sycophants to do the "content curation" work that they don't want to do by turning these useless specimens instantly into new dolphins and orcas?

Because for me at first glance, this explanation does seem like a simpler, more lucid and coherent mathematics to interpret the figures in these graphs.

It seems spaminator is more political than protector of the blockchain. Its downvoting you is curious at the least.

Hahahaha, glad you noticed it. Here in this post I dedicate a few paragraphs to such a curious situation.

And there's the number one reason Hive has not exploded...

Yeah, and to think that there are still people here who haven't realized this yet, huh?

Of what freaking Middle Class are you talking about? Because if for such assertion you are basing your guesses on the charts of @arcange. It has never occurred to you that this slight increase in the number of dolphins and orcas with the corresponding decrease in the number of whales that is shown in the graphs. All this supposed increase in the number of members of the "middle class" it simply corresponds to the HP delegations that these and the same whales of always have just made to a group of their own alt accounts to simply diversify their "curation" incomes and obfuscate their true capital a bit better?

It literally says in @arcange's post that it doesn't include delegations. <<

Could they be powering down and sending it to their alts? Sure. Does anybody care? No.

It literally says in @arcange's post that it doesn't include delegations. <<

@arcange in his posts can say or preach mass. The issue is going to be in understanding and swallowing his parables without further scrutiny. };)

Could they be powering down and sending it to their alts? Sure. Does anybody care? No.

Aha, now it seems like you understood the message a little better. And that's precisely the problem that customary shills have when interpreting graphs and charts properly.

@arcange in his posts can say or preach mass. The issue is going to be in understanding and swallowing his parables without further scrutiny. };)

Anyone can reach the same stats arcange shares, it is just hivesql data converted to graphs.

Aha, now it seems like you understood the message a little better. And that's precisely the problem that customary shills have when interpreting graphs and charts properly.

https://hivel.ink/hive-196233/@mrtats/being-a-hopium-seller-is-the-cushiest-job-on-hive

As you can see, I don't need your message to understand anything :)

As you can see, I don't need your message to understand anything :)

Fair enough!