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No I am, and I will answer it. Because you are clueless on blockchain projects. So it is my responsibility to educate NOT you, but others on blockchain, so that you can't misinform them.

They both run curation project which requires them to share the curation income to delegators. They therefore will always stay on PD.

Pharesim in an individual and he hold 1M HP. An amount you don't even dream of keeping powered up. So please, stop talking about nonsense and things that you don't really understand. You worse, TRYING to spin.

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That is pharesim HP all delegated to curangel. Happy? What are you going to do about it? Buy 1 Million hive and power up? LOL.

@kennyskitchen First, I’m not one for self-gratification, but then again, I’m usually late to the party - so I was very proud to see that I was the first to reblog this post, or at least I think I was - if not, please disregard :)

Ok. Next I want to follow up on the question above. I’m curious about this too, but just curious.

I do remember reading in one of your recent posts that you’re planning to leave. I like what you stand for and I would really hope to be able to stay here since I’m kind of attached to the content I have been and will continue to be posting. While I’m curious your response to this question, I don’t at this time see you as someone who’s acting with dubious intentions. If there is a new project coming up, is it fair to assume you don’t have interests still here? At the start of this post I thought maybe you’d changed your mind and decided to fight to fix what you see as wrong from within, which I though was really hopeful.

The free speech aspect is why I chose to set roots here, like two weeks ago. Your first post about this made my heart sink. I had just found a home for safe and protected free speech, and then that. I tried to rationalize it in my mind. I’m posting about making fermented drinks and ruck marching and magick. No one cares, nor will there likely ever be a reason someone should want to silence me aggressively, don’t rock the boat. These witnesses are probably just trying to protect the mainstream viability of the platform, since maybe most people don’t want to here or see things that defy the asshole narrative that’s being crammed down everyone’s throats… woo woo woo. So for a moment I have to admit, I was going to let this shake out however the hell without getting involved, but then it clicked.

See, for that post and each one since, I’ve typed and deleted at least three long responses. I never posted one though, because I didn’t want voicing my support to cost me the support of others. The opportunity to make money for my posts (and the fear of damaging that potential) was almost enough to keep me silent - particularly because I tend to post pretty benign shit - but in truth like I said, the biggest appeal when I came here was the ability for people to speak freely. My content isn’t under attack now, but if I stay silent while yours is, there will be no one to help when it comes for me, and while I don’t post anything controversial or counter-fuckery, I love basking in the brilliant work of others such as yourself that does exactly that. So I have every reason to stand in support.

I’ve proxied my votes to you for this account and my six little broke ass communities. They have no accrued value at this time, but I am in vehement opposition to censorship. So thank you. I’m going to go back to lurking and posting my benign shit now :)

See, for that post and each one since, I’ve typed and deleted at least three long responses. I never posted one though, because I didn’t want voicing my support to cost me the support of others. The opportunity to make money for my posts (and the fear of damaging that potential) was almost enough to keep me silent - particularly because I tend to post pretty benign shit - but in truth like I said, the biggest appeal when I came here was the ability for people to speak freely. My content isn’t under attack now, but if I stay silent while yours is, there will be no one to help when it comes for me, and while I don’t post anything controversial or counter-fuckery, I love basking in the brilliant work of others such as yourself that does exactly that. So I have every reason to stand in support.

Safety in numbers. Theres a lot more people just like you. I myself started bringing up these issues earlier this year and didnt talk about it too much before. It is the elephant in the roon.

The main question is this:

Is the Ethos of Hive people getting along and earning crypto for posting content, or is it the whim of a few millionaires who get to decide if you earn or not. I sincerely hope we can all move forward and ideological downvoting comes to an end and we can just focus on growing the chain.

I’m on board! I don’t care nearly as much about profiting from my content as I do about sharing it and getting conversations started. And I care less about both of those things than I do about protecting free speech and information, so really I’m disappointed in myself for having ever questioned it, but I’m going to give myself a hug, say “It’s ok buddy, you’re here now, so don’t beat yourself up,” and I’m going to say “be damned” to anyone who chooses to stop socializing with me because I take a stand for free speech. You push a man of peace too deep into a corner, and you knight him into a man of action. This is bigger than Hive.

Thanks for your response and encouragement :)

🧙‍♂️ Ksapa hwo!

That's a very respectable position. I hope current events helps those who were complacent in the past to come to a similar revelation.

Thanks - I hope so too! :)

Of course, it makes perfect sense.. The accounts you are connected to have valid reasons to power down and those you dont't like do not and are traitors to Hive. It's a perfectly rational position to take, yes. Clearly there are rules about powering down that are never spoken about or written down - which you are enforcing through verbal slurs, again - it's all totally rational. The fact that 12 out of the 20 top ten witnesses are currently powering down is only evidence that they are traitors to Hive who are trying to destroy Hive, yes.

Wow, what I am I thinking - even daring to think for myself here.. I don't have 1M HP, how could I even imagine to have the audacity to verbalise cognitive processes.. I am ashamed.

I am not connected to any of the account you mentioned

Do I use a bigger font? Will that help?

You ask for an explanation. I GAVE you an explanation. What is your problem?

You are friends with Pharesim and run Curangel together, so yes, you are connected to Pharesim. But even if you had never met him and had never worked with Curangel or anyone else I mentioned, it makes no difference to my point. My obvious point being that you are trying to diminish the character of people based on nonsensical metrics that you are selectively applying in order to try to bolster a position that no-one but you takes seriously. You are essentially saying that anyone who powers down is anti Hive. You have no clue what they are going to use the money for - they might be literally spending it on Hive marketing, as people have done before - or paying for servers or even employees to work on Hive projects. It is you who seems to have no clue about so many things that I am at a loss to explain it.

And what are YOU doing?

I don't have any metric.

I am NOT a witness. What I say doesn't matter. I am just a stakeholder like yourself. Anything I say is my opinion and mine only. A am entitled to MY opinion.

My last word on the subject.

A metric is a standard of measurement and I am referring to your use of the powerdown status of accounts as a standard of measurement of the account owner's intent to help Hive in some way - so yes, you do have a metric and have expressed that in your own way.

You are absolutely entitled to express yourself here, no-one is suggesting otherwise. You are publicly slandering people who are very busy in working to improve Hive and as such you are triggering a response to that slander. Further, you are a major cause of the existence of the fairly large scale efforts on Hive to address issues that your behaviour has surfaced. The issues could have surfaced anyway, as a result of other people, so they always needed to be addressed - however, I am just pointing out that you are contradicting yourself energetically. You are saying on the one hand that your opinions don't matter - but on the other hand you are voting heavily in order to enforce your opinion. Clearly, to the Hive community, your opinion does matter - just as everyone's matters automatically due to DPOS.

I am actually a witness as well as a stakeholder and have been here since a couple of months after Steem launched in 2016. I have had a degree in systems engineering for 20 years, made software for the world's largest investment banks, been involved in blockchain for a long time and am friends with numerous fairly high profile people in the space. I've been programming since I was 4 years old. You are not qualified or in touch with enough information to determine whether I know anything about blockchain or not.

Setting all of that aside, I am involved in numerous projects that help Hive and I would be involved in even more if I wasn't having to dedicate so much time to addressing the results of your own personal actions.

You will find out some of what I am working on soon enough.

Please share your LinkedIn Profile :)

I haven't spent much time looking into it, I only know that he downvotes for Curangel and that Curangel is run by Pharesim.

The fact that 12 out of the 20 top ten witnesses are currently powering down is only evidence that they are traitors to Hive who are trying to destroy Hive, yes.

I think they will appreciate that sort of libel being published on the chain.

I was clearly being sarcastic.

Sarcasm isnt real.

Sounds like a conspiracy theory tbh.

A very old movement that is starting to catch on.

Indeed, birds are not real. Every bird in current existence is infact a government drone, subcontracted out by Amazon and Facebook of course.

The birds know all, the birds see all, they do not forgive, they do not forget, expect them, they are legion!!!!

Are they not powering down? The claim usually has to be false to be considered grounds for libel. Just opining negatively about someone isn't enough to get to court even if you technically could file a frivolous case.

Are they not powering down? The claim usually has to be false to be considered grounds for libel. Just opining negatively about someone isn't enough to get to court even if you technically could file a frivolous case.

I assume that the "libel" being spoken about was calling them traitors to Hive, sarcastically.

Well he stated that it "was evidence of them being traitors". Libel generally requires 2 components a false claim and unjust harm to someone's reputation. Impeaching someone's character does not equate to libel. Someone could frame this as "weak" evidence but that doesn't make it a false claim.

If we were to tone police the statement to something less incendiary but still steelman the position, it would be something like "The fact that 12 of 20 of the top witnesses are powering down is bad optically and could shake consumer confidence". The claim is true not false and even if someone could dismiss the traitorous rationale as incorrect, it still isn't libel. It would just be a weak argument or false equivalence.

This is the exact reason that it's important to have proper discourse on chain. Downvoting posts a person don't like to oblivion is a much less effective measure than communicating why a person's reasoning is faulty. But it's a lot easier than having discourse and gives people inverse slot machine dopamine rushes when they're griefing other people. As long as the perverse incentive structures exist, it's likely that model will dominate over a more truly "proof of brain" model.