I spent last weekend putting up new Starlink internet dish. As some of you know we recently moved to Vermont. Well Vermont (at least the area around us) has pretty horrible cell phone coverage with all the hills and also poor internet service as much of the area is still rural.
We get zero cell phone coverage at our house, from ANY provider. The only internet available is through a single provider, Consolidated Communications, and it is pretty lame compared to what we are used to. They promised we would be able to get 25MB download and 2MB upload speeds when we called to check before purchasing home. Now that we're here, and after waiting a month to get it turned on (even though previous owner had it), we find that it only provides ADSL 12MB down and less than 1MB upload speeds. Not ideal for me working remote or uploading photo's and video's to HIVE! Especially not with all the connected devices we have, streaming TV, etc. Still fighting with them now two months later to upgrade their switch at the main box so we can get the promised speeds.
So, luckily, before we moved, I looked into Elon Musk Starlink Beta program. It's not scheduled to be fully in production until Q4 of this year sometime, but has already proven benefit. It is available in some areas for early Beta users. For those not aware, this is NOT like the old Hughes and older satellites with horrible (150ms) latency and performance, this is new cool low orbit technology with reasonable 35-60ms latency times.
Components are simple, Here is the Power over Ethernet box, and the small, vertical white/gray Starlink router. It includes a single ethernet out port if you want to connect your own wireless router, but so far the internal wireless router is working pretty well with more power and range than I expected. All I had to do was untangle cable plug it into the AC power, then plug in the two color coded cables shown here. It found it's satellites and was working in about 3 minutes.
The initial setup and install was a breeze, I put it in the yard, plugged it in and before I could even finish untangling the cable, I had internet up and working. Fantastic! Later, I found the bad news, our yard is surrounded by tall trees, and the tree tops were partially obstructing the signal, causing a brief interruption every 9 minutes or so. This made video conference calls a bit buggy and jittery, not good when that's how I spend most of my days. But at least it was up and working instead of being down and isolated for an entire month waiting on "the Cable guys".
There is even a cool little app on the Starlink phone app or in the router that actually displays your obstructions and connectivity history. You can download the phone app for free and actually test your area ahead of time with your phone. If you look close, you can see the little red in the treetops that were my initial obstructions in the yard location.
So, this past weekend I spent putting the Dish up on the roof. They sell several mount styles for this. I chose a movable mount that does not require drilling holes or screwing into my roof. One reason is because I wasn't sure where I would need to mount it to be sure that all the trees were clear from obstructing the signal, and two, I am still waiting to see if it can really melt the sometimes large snows we will be getting. The roof is very steep and there's no (reasonable) way of climbing it in the winter to brush snow off if needed. The satellite dish (or dishy as they like to call it) supposedly has a heating element that will melt the snow. We'll see. On to the install.
Here is the nice little rubber mat they provide to protect the roof and cushion the mount.
This mount I bought just folds over the roof peak and locks in with a lever.
Then the hard part, hauling the 20lb bricks up the roof to hold the mount in place (I used a backpack and did 2 at a time cause I hate climbing ladders). Then it was easy hauling up the dishy and just popping it into the designed hole. They actually provided a special little backpack for the dishy. Luckily I made it through the whole thing without falling off the roof like GDog or was it GBird? @galenkp (had to rub it in lol).
Anyway so after climbing the ladder and dragging the mount up there, placing it and then also dragging up four 20lb paving bricks to hold it down, the dish is now mounted on the roof and no obstructions. It is performing much better. I still get the occasional jitter, or interruption (expected because it's still beta), but overall VERY happy with the added connectivity. Bandwidth speeds are now typically 120MB-150MB download with 10MB-15MB upload speeds.
So much better speeds now, and great ping/latency times averaging 39-51ms with 120-160MB down and 10-20MB upload speeds.
I'll keep the DSL to have as a backup for internet and phone, and to help split the usage. I currently have my work laptop connected to the DSL and everything else to the Starlink with more bandwidth. If one connection fails, my work laptop and personal laptop and cell phones will automatically switch to the other connection. Works pretty seamlessly. The cell phones we have are able to send/receive calls across the wireless internet connection so that is covered now too.
It's been quite the adventure. bottom line is that I'm very pleased with the Starlink for this location. Not as stable (yet) as a good cable connection, and certainly no comparison to the lucky folks with fiber available, but fantastic for remote locations like ours.
There is one thing I would like to know: what does all this cost? Now and also, when the full service is finally running.
The speed seems fine, but it has similar problems as the satellite TV here: it needs a free view field at the satellite. That is not always possible inside a city. I'm still hoping for a improved cable service.
Unlike most cable service, the price (the real price) is posted on their website. Cost is about $500 for the dishy, then $99 per month. No caps. My cable service here claimed 25MB at $42 wants a two year contract, and of course does not included taxes and "other" fees. Then they charged me for router, for install (even though the previous owner router still here and just needed password changed or reset). My first bill ended up being $650. and still not sure what the actual monthly charge will be with all the added fees and such. And then they only deliver 12MB! Argh!!!
There's definitely a difference between city and rural. I think cable is good choice for city, it's cost effective for the cable companies to run a cable to one building then serve dozens.. In rural areas, they don't want to string a cable for a mile (or miles) between houses for a single customer. There is so many hills and trees here that ground based wireless doesn't deliver far either, so (good) satellite is ideal for us. It all depends on your location and what works best. If they would run fiber to us, I would jump on it.
Wow, yeah, thats all quiete costly. If Musk's Starlink wants to get people in 3rd world countries as customers, prices have to come down a lot. $100 a month is more than many people earn there.
That cable service price is similar to here, only here they don't charge that much for the installation. I pay about €30 for a 16 Mb flatrate DSL. But I live in a city.
Its not that fast though, concidering that some PS4 games today are 150 GB downloads, or 4k movie streams use 4 GB per hour. Fast mobile phone net would be a alternative, it works ok here - but it is too expensive for such data volume.
Wow that's some good performance considering the delivery method. There's just no competition in places like where you moved to.
Exactly right on the competition. Consolidated knows they are the only game in town and the service/support is terrible. Here's to hoping the Starlink can motivate them to be more competitive once it goes full production. If we had reliable cell phone service I would have already dumped them, but want to have backup for phones for emergencies or the bad weather we know will be coming soon until we see how reliable the dishy is after a few feet of snow.
I wonder if Starlink will have a referral program. Even if not, you could accelerate the competition by informing your new neighbors there is another way
Good thought. I don't see a referral program yet, but perhaps when they go full release.
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.Nice do-it-yourself job @ksteem... Did you have to point the dish in a certain part of the sky?
No, it's actually pretty cool that way. You just drop it into the base and it auto-adjusts itself to the correct angle when you plug it in. When you order it, you do have to provide the address or gps coordinates that they program into it before shipping.
Was interesting for me, our address was not originally in google maps or bing correctly. I was able to use google maps aerial view, zoom in and provide gps coordinates though. Was pretty cool, using the google maps and zooming in, I was actually able to provide the exact gps coordinates to the center of our roof from the aerial pic. (Not so cool if someone is aiming missles I suppose, lol).
This means you can't just move it from one side of the state to another without contacting them to re-program. I'm not sure what the distance is, but at some point away from it's programmed location, it will start to lose the alignment.
As long as the dish is not directly over your bedroom, you should be alright from the satellite death rays. You get such cool stuff and more importantly know how to install them.
Good job!
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I love how even the router looks a little bit like the cybertruck. LOL. I had no idea he had already gone beta on this! How cool that you get to be the first to test out Starlink. Next thing, you'll be going to Mars. That's gotta be frustrating to not have internet when your from-home business kind of revolves around that. Glad you got it up and running.
read your story with a great intrest!
I afraid Musk will ruin the rest of the service providers ... in the long run.
Still not as good for those in crowded cities or apartments, I think there's room for both and will provide some healthy competition for those cable companies that have slacked for years because their lame offerings were the only thing available. I guess we'll see.