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RE: Community: Please vote Return Proposal

in OCD9 months ago

So you understand that you attack my not even voted in cheap proposal by attacking this single proposal, trying to create rules that will make it harder to everyone to get voted with quite an ignorance towards everything wrong that is already voted.

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I don’t even know if you have a proposal.

It is your job to let me know that.

If you have a proposal you are asking for money. You have to convince me. I am the consumer and I get to do whatever I want and I don’t even have to explain :)

This is the reality my friend. Warm up to it.

It's there for 150 days not that hard to find, there is only 20-30 proposals ? Somehow you found leo proposal and are against it, same way you can find mine and be for it or against it. It is quite simple, you can vote all of them if you want.

I know that I can pay you or others, or convince you many other ways, quite bad if it's all based on convincing not matter itself. I guess we all have some experience with real life governments. We know systems like that have tendency towards corruption.

We can assume more people who could decide wait for some "convincing" one way or another, maybe it's already long term relation like: "You convince me, I convince You" and everything else matter less, and this way reached these ignorance levels.

Once again, am just pointing out that it is completely wrong to discuss governance topic like that cause single project, there is much more happening, it's bit more complicated, there is much more to fix, ignorance might be one of the first thing to work on if you want improve hive governance.

This is a less than ideal result of having the ability to vote on as many proposals as you want. I think the ability to express negation on proposals themselves would be better.

As for setting the bar:

There are 168 Million Hive staked as HP. Of this, only ~24 million vote for the return proposal representing about 14%.

14% is not a sufficiently high enough bar. Especially when the other 86% have to share the outcome.

how much of staked HP participate in proposals governance? all ?

Enough that HBDstabilizer which is at the top, has 43M HP on it. In-fact, when the previous hbdstabilizer proposal was running, it became the effective return proposal, and it too, had around the same bar.