Come, go, quit as you please

I'm quitting Hive! Powering down, bugging out...

Well... not me, but there are plenty of people who do. Of course, some should quit Hive, because the place is likely better without them, but all in all - why quit?

What is the point of quitting?

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Sure, some people just want an excuse to powerdown, but in my experience, most of them come back at some point anyway. But, for the average person who might think that wants to cut down their time here, is there really a need to quit? Why not just cut back, take a break - disappear for a few months and see where life leads, rather than announcing a closing of the door. Because, since most do end up coming back at some point anyway, it just looks flaky, especially when they tend to come back when there is crypto bull, not crypto bear.

This is an opt-in and opt-out platform, but it isn't in or out, it is opt-in when you choose to interact with the chain in some way and opt-out when you give up your keys, so you will never use your account again.

Ever seen anyone do that with their main account?

Me either.

Seems that with all the people who "quit" they still want to hold onto the key back in... just in case. All those people who have complained heavily about how terrible this place is and the people here...

Still have their keys.

What does that say about them? What does that say about the value of their opinions on the place? What does it say about their ethics? They hate the place enough to throw a tantrum and quit - but still want access. Just powerdown and for the last post - simply paste the master key.

But again, for the average person, there is no real reason to quit. If someone wants to powerdown, no one is stopping them. If they want to take a break for a year, no one is stopping that either.

Sometimes I "fantasize" about taking a break from Hive, but for me, I think a break away would be far more stressful than doing as I do, because I would have to find some other vocation to take up my time and have no idea what that would be. I don't think I have ever been as engaged with a topic than I have been with crypto and Hive and, I certainly haven't been a fanboy of anything before - I have never even had a favorite band or committed to a sporting team with any strength of enthusiasm.

While I might be an extreme case in terms of posting consistency here, there are plenty of people who go through waves of engagement and interaction and it doesn't always coincide with the market prices. For many, it is just life considerations, where various daily routines change and interactions ebb and flow accordingly. For others, they have lifecycles that do this naturally, where for example, people will spend less time posting in the summer, because they are travelling or spending the time on the beach or something.

My point is, people shouldn't take it all so seriously and should just come and go as they please, without the stress of "quitting" something. It is not like this is smoking that causes cancer or a job that requires the killing of kittens - it is a social media - and one that is Far healthier than the shite where billions of people are vying for the attention of strangers, getting paid in hearts and stars.

But maybe that is part of the problem here, where because there is real value to be made, many people treat it like a job and like most jobs done for the money, that gets tiring real fast.

Of course, everyone has their reasons to do whatever they do and I am not in the mind of anyone other than myself - and I am barely there most of the time either, so to each their own. However for me, I like being here because it is far more compelling than any of the "similar" alternatives out there that are just a bunch of strangers creaming at each other about things that they ultimately, don't care about anyway.

At least here, I get the sense that we are moving toward something better in the world and even if we don't reach it, at least we started the journey, instead of quitting before we really got started.

Taraz
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I guess my perspective was a little different from the start because (unlike many) I'd already been blogging for almost 20 years when I got involved here.

My motivation for coming/going is mostly tied to the extent to which I feel comfortable that my content is "safe" here (meaning that there's no company to suddenly go bankrupt and flush 10 years of creativity down the toilet), and that the venue itself hasn't turned into a giant circus of nothing put "spam and scam" content... because I'd rather not my content be drowned out by a flood of total garbage.

Otherwise, I can't really think of a good reason to quit. EVEN if I had to power down everything for some financial emergency...

=^..^=

Yeah for sure - your starting point was from somewhere few know.

How do you feel about the safety and Spam at present?

Shot you startled me with your opening sentences!

While is sucks when people choose to leave the party, it never made much sense to me to take all your toys and leave in a huff. Just leverage curation trails and auto vote tools and take a break. Almost as good and even easier is to stuff it in hbd savings and return richer after a break.

Content + Networking + Time = Success here as I have used as my mantra. When you have a stake, let it work for you and my buddy Taraz and I will keep the lights on while you are gone.

Yeah - I think it is part of the mentality these days - it is all binary, a false dichotomy - all in or all out - extremist mentality.

When you have a stake, let it work for you and my buddy Taraz and I will keep the lights on while you are gone.

Exactly!! :D

 2 years ago  

Yeah for sure. I've suggested to some that need a break just flip on the auto votes and let things grow for you while you're gone. Even earning .1 curation for a post is better than 0 if you power it down and don't vote!

The meltdowns this past eight months or so...

I'm just speechless now.

Nowordslefttosay

Nofuckslefttogive

I had a vague thought that the stress of quitting something thing might stem from the fact there's money tied to this thing, but then remembered dA days when people would angrily ragequit (I'M LEAVING DA 4EVA) for various reasons (and same deal again they would usually reappear days to weeks later and in some cases there were some people pretending the tantrum never happened or blaming it on their cousin hacking their computer or they have autism or something) so I don't think that's entirely it XD

The money tied is one thing of course, as it tends to "corrupt" minds in many ways, as people who think they don't care - find out they do.

It is funny how some people try to comeback and explain it away as a hack or something - it is nonsense. I get that people have breakdowns, but really - so many? :D

Guess when you don't have an outlet for frustration anything and anyone will do? And then you realise you stuffed up royally but being wrong is something that must absolutely be avoided at any and all cost no matter what so...I got hacked? XD

🙂 The real money value is a strange beast here. On one hand, it could corrupt one's authenticity, both in blogging and in social behavior online. But on the other hand, no chance that I will take the time & effort to create something relatively meaningful every day without the hope that, one day, blogging could pay me a trip to some tropical place, ad example. Where I could search for some weird insects that I have never seen before and blog about them from there. 😀I mean, no chance in 2019, at my beginning on the platform. Nowadays, I think I'll be doing it even for fun only, and to have a place where I can store and organize my thoughts & photographs while learning English along the way. But knowing that there is some money in the future, or in the present in the case of an emergency, is a great thing. And a bit of a miracle too. I couldn't imagine something like this before I stumbled upon it while rambling around the Internet. Never thought that online activities could bring me something valuable in a so direct way. I was mostly happy that platforms like Facebook don't make me pay to use them, back then, before 2019. Many people I know still have that mentality. The idea that what you create online can have some value was pretty revolutionary to me.

 2 years ago  

Hahah yeah the people claiming it was their sibling or cousin stories were a lot of fun. I may or may not have done that once myself :D.

Which part, being the sibling or cousin or claiming it was the sibling or cousin? :D

 2 years ago  

Claiming it was a sibling or cousin but it wasn't lol

GASP I'm ASTOUNDED. SHOCKED. MORITIFIED. REKT.

Or something lol we were all young and stupid once XD

 2 years ago  

Hahah yeah, and gamers. Did that while playing an old school MMORPG called Ragnarok online. Such a fun game but I was like 14-16 playing it so I flipped out on dudes and blamed it on my cousin lol

Good point.
The main difference is the way everyone jumps into Hive.

If you use it as the door to a new "world" where you experience interacting with others, jumping into web3.0, and socializing, you do not value the "economic" reward as much and feel rewarded with all the rest.
If your interest is only economic, I can see you getting burned as soon as a bear market enters and see your valuable account get cut by 50%, 60%, or 90%.

As with anything in life, only those who really enjoy what they do, beyond economic reward, remain in the game, and usually get quite good results in the long run, first because anything you do for a long period of time makes you much better at it, second because when you focus on learning and enjoying something much more than the outcome you can get out of it, you really put all your senses into what you are doing instead of looking every minute to the outcome.

So, as you say, anyone is free to leave, but if you are getting much more than an economic reward, what's the use of doing so?

For sure!

The gateway in matters, so does the way engagement happens. A lot come in and try to suck up to the larger accounts - they rarely last. When I started, I didn't even know who was who or who had what - I just created and engaged, and people found me - it was a bit of a different time, but not that different.

So, as you say, anyone is free to leave, but if you are getting much more than an economic reward, what's the use of doing so?

And I think that this is what gets highlighted - those who are only here for economic reward.

Sometimes I "fantasize" about taking a break from Hive, but for me, I think a break away would be far more stressful than doing as I do, because I would have to find some other vocation to take up my time and have no idea what that would be.

I can imagine. After several years of doing this it literally
Becomes a part of your life

It is definitely a part of it and timewise, a big part. I am lucky though, as it has never been a chore to do - though some parts I haven't liked at times.

... I thought there was a new rage quitter for a minute, or are you writing retrospectively? 😀

Nah, just in general - perhaps with Blurt tanking in so many ways, some of those rage quitters will try to come back :D

I suspect they already have their alts running...

I suspect they already have their alts running...

Not sure what they are expecting, new accounts take a lot of work.

Especially if they are based around a person. If I "burned" my account socially, what are the chances of me building again?

 2 years ago  

Lol this was my thought exactly! Who do I need to spend a few minutes trying to hunt down for rage quit posts?!

Hi @tarazkp ,My opinion: I have been in this panel for 2 year, the principles are complicated, however perseverance always triumphs, I am persevering, I work constantly, I do not give up easily, what happens is many people want everything easy and fast, but everything takes its time, so they go in and out, they don't persevere, but it's an individual decision, it's my humble opinion

And then there is what you are persevering at - isn't it fun to be here at least most of the time? Why does there have to be so much animosity?

Engage, enjoy, earn a bit, play a bit, reward others, make someone smile :)

Quitting during the bear and coming back during a bull run is just dumb, that's how I see it at least. If people accumulate, power up and hold a decent amount of Hive during a bear market, then all that waiting, and the end result will be much more fruitful.

The best time to earn HIVE is during the bear, because it is the best time to earn attention. When there is less competition, it is easier to see who is committed too - so those who are here with stake, find those who are committed without.

Absolute facts

I wish I could spend more time creating on Hive. I am one that goes in waves and it is because I have life to deal with.

I have been here for a long time now and even when I'm not creating on one of my several accounts, I'm still watching and trying to learn. Anyway, I've seen some folks do what you say and quit, but the one's I've seen all quit because of "bullying". It's the one reason I question downvotes.

It is hard at times to stay consistently engaged, but that is the case with any hobby. I wish I exercised more... :)

Those who quit due to downvotes, are also often the people who want attention at any cost and, drama is the fastest way to get it. Not always of course, but rarely do normal people get downvoted for no reason for a prolonged period of time. Overall, I see them as more needed than not. Blurt doesn't have downvotes, they are looking to freeze malicious accounts... Interestingly, of some of the people who quit here because of downvotes.

Well, that is certainly interesting. I'm sure I know some of whom you speak of.

Yes, I am certain you do.

I think I will quit as well.

When my hive will be worth 500000 dollars

This is generally the way it goes!!

There can't be quitting HIVE, it is not sensible because HIVE is kind of lifetime investment which could be handed down from generation to generation. HIVE could be a part of our lifetime. If one thinks it is taking too much time, there can be only having a break, setting auto upvote on hivevote ;)

People don't have this view of yet - they don't understand that these accounts are the original NFTs - they can be traded, sold, inherited. In time, they can be like a business, providing income for future generations.

I believe we are entitled to our own opinion on how to handle things but should be done in a reasonable manner. Quitting is never a good option and even if it is a final decision doesn't need to be announced because sometimes it is caused by mood of the person or challenges been faced but taking a break would be appropriate so that whenever such person feels like coming back the platform is opened to welcome their presence again.

Everyone does what they do and must live the experience they get. It isn't Hive that is the issue though, Hive is just a record keeper.

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I am just new in blogging. It's hard to start a journey and I am still coping of what to do. But upon readkng this, I hope I won't think of quiting because now, I love hive already.
Been busy reading this past few days about other user's post.
I never thought that some likes to quit.
Glad, you're not one of them. ☺️
Have a nice day.

 2 years ago  

Yeah I laugh at the people who make it a dramatic scene to post they are leaving, only to surface a few months later in some comments or a post and re-announce some life changing bullshit or something. Some may have had a life change truly, but some are just full of shit and wanted to see if they can get sympathy votes for coming back lol.

I as well don't know if I can take a break from the place. I have been having some issues finding the motivation to get some posts out there and have slacked on it a bit lately sadly but quit? Hell no! I don't have enough things going on in my life to quit and do something else lol. I am stashing away everything I can here and using the bear market as an opportunity to grow my stake a lot faster than I did in the bull.

It's most certainly relative for the bear and bull cycle. We get "more" liquid rewards in the bear cycle but that's because the value is lower. When it's a bull cycle we get "less" liquid because it's worth more and it's an interesting mental game with that. Bigger numbers are better in many situations, except sometimes in ratios! I'd rather more liquid now than higher token value because I want to grow and laugh at the attention seeking rage-quitters.

You made some great points which resonates woth me. I take it as it comes. Then nothing is a burden and remains enjoyable. I left before and came back over 18 months later. I did not plan to leave so I did not set up things to earn while I was away. Everyday I was returning in my mind as I thought of the stories and took the photos. Life just happened - differently.
I do not know whether there were bulls or bears around. I knew I would come back though. I missed it. I am here now.