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RE: Dark matter signals at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider

in StemSocial2 years ago

The first two "proofs" you mentioned as a reason to assume the concept of dark matter are not really proofs. They are just a nice way to explain otherwise flawed equations. What if gravity is just different than we believe, but without the presence of otherwise never observed additional matter? Also I am aware that dark matter "explains" why the cosmos expands not linear, but increases it´s expansion rate. Again no proof in my opinion.

Other than that an exceptionally great article!

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 2 years ago (edited) 

The first two "proofs" you mentioned as a reason to assume the concept of dark matter are not really proofs. They are just a nice way to explain otherwise flawed equations.

I agree. They consist of indirect evidence, like any evidence for dark matter that we have today. We still miss the direct proof (that is what we search so hard since many years). What I like with dark matter is that a single concept can explain many different problems. There is no other alternative that does this similarly well. However, until we find out, alternatives must be considered too, even if they do not look as good.

hat if gravity is just different than we believe, but without the presence of otherwise never observed additional matter?

This option is not ruled out. In terms of significance, it does not work as well as dark matter (but I insist, it is not excluded too). At the end, it is just my interests that lie on dark matter. You can find other physicists with other interests working on modified gravity theories.

Also I am aware that dark matter "explains" why the cosmos expands not linear, but increases it´s expansion rate. Again no proof in my opinion.

I guess you meant here dark energy (which I didn't discuss at all). We know even less on this one than for dark matter, and proofs are missing. So yes, you are correct. We have no clue what it is.

Yeah id never trust any of todays "science" untill they do what we on hive do and have witnesses and block producers and snart contracts and maybe use something like lab pro + ledger nano company partnership.... french should love that... telos sciebce hive science .... ALL EXPERIMENTS PUBLIC AND PROVABLE ON CHAIN ALL DATA POSTED DIRECTLY FROM LAB EQUIPMENT ON CHAIN

IMAGINE a sort of un weapons inspector system for science where RANDOM @dan hierarchial science governenence inspectors from ecen russia north korea china have to come inspect your lab and theyll be suprr rigorous ... and also scientists from opposing rebel groups... people/nations who hate each other sho be forced to check each others science. Really proving it on chain.... all experiments should be on a blockchain

This would solve all the problems with vaccine and climate science and etc etc and 6g starlink decentralized observatories to disprove flat earth lol Theyre soooooo scared to even try this because it will just cost too much money and altho we may prove earth is still round lol we may prove most vaccines are dangerous now (not that they alqays were) and that clinate science is a scam. Or it will prove its allll real yeah sure. Then prove it with a blockchain

Cern data should be checked by other particle accelerators. They should have built like 2 or 3 of them in multiplr countries and they can all verify each others work

But noooooo we cant ever use blockchain dpos for science .... only for social media and banking but not science or healthcare lol

I should be able to profit off my scans snd xrays and health data and share it on a dpos network that gamifies cyber nurses to find problems around the world like a human evangelion cyber homonculi on chain. Fix me followers! Fix me so that i may rule over you better with a body checked daily by thousands of people around the world and a home MRI /ULTRASOUND/CAT scan med bed in my bathroom ....

And blockchain integrated open ai scanning starlink connected decentralized hive telescopes on my roof mining astro data

 2 years ago  

ALL EXPERIMENTS PUBLIC AND PROVABLE ON CHAIN ALL DATA POSTED DIRECTLY FROM LAB EQUIPMENT ON CHAIN

Actually, many are actually public already, open access (more than 90% of all our publications), open source, etc.. But this is easy to say for particle physics and high-energy physics where no big money is in the game (unlike in pharma, to quote a single example).

However, at some point we need to trust peer review. We need an expert to correctly assess state of the art studies, i.e. someone who studied a given field for years and even decades. If their reports are online, it is even better (and it is the case in at least one journal I know).

From now, I will only answer what I can (because this is related to what I know precisely).

Cern data should be checked by other particle accelerators. They should have built like 2 or 3 of them in multiplr countries and they can all verify each others work

This would be a dream. However, we don't have funding to do that. This is the only reason why we only have only one running collider for now. To alleviate that problem, we have several independent collaborations taking data independently, through different detectors located at different parts of the accelerator. That's the only way we found to double check everything we do (a double check is always in order!). Moreover, all past results (thus independent) are also accounted for in any analysis. We need coherent results.

But noooooo we cant ever use blockchain dpos for science .... only for social media and banking but not science or healthcare lol

Blockchains cannot be used for everything. Depending on the goal, there are better solutions. For instance, If you aim to develop codes to analyse data, an option like github/gitlab is better. For my citizen science project, storing the results of simulation results on chain won't be an option (I can show you what they look like. I hope this could convince you we don't want to store thousands of files like that on chain (moreover, many format are not text-based, and thus impossible to push).

Blockchains are useful, but not for everything.

no, blockchain CAN be used for everything. youll see

However, at some point we need to trust peer review.

and thats what we will use science hive for, thats what im saying

 2 years ago  

I agree that we will disagree on this :)

Blockchains are great, but depending on the problem we try to solve, they may not be the most appropriate tool. For instance, software development is better managed through a Git-like option (by the way, Hive is developed on GitLab).

yes and you dont see github gitlab software will be all hive based in teh future? WHy wouldnt it be? every action a user makes HAS to be on chain for security purposes ... its almost a crime that its not already

Github already had telos / eos logon wiuth https://tipit.io we proved it, i was using github as a wallet :D google image "tipit github ackza" LOL

 2 years ago  

In fact, I don't see really the "security" purpose here. Any action done is stored in the history. What would be the gain of a blockchain here?

PS: I have checked what tipit is. It has nothing to do with code development. I therefore do not see the connection.

I hope this could convince you we don't want to store thousands of files like that on chain

no, we do, its called eosio and telos. you store them on amazon or whatever or local servers, and amazon can be replaced by telos Dstor.cloud its better than hive but based on dpos eosio which is based on steem so its related to hive

youll see

not everything is limited by hive

blockchains in future cheaper and easier than tyhe dinosaur storage ur talkin about

and yeah you need not just the data on chain but i said THE LAB EQUIPMENT should be custom made by ledger and lab pro :D

 2 years ago  

no, we do, its called eosio and telos. you store them on amazon or whatever or local servers, and amazon can be replaced by telos Dstor.cloud its better than hive but based on dpos eosio which is based on steem so its related to hive

I do not know what telos or eosio are (I have no time to check out now). But please check what is the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid. I do not think any other option would work to replace this.

and yeah you need not just the data on chain but i said THE LAB EQUIPMENT should be custom made by ledger and lab pro :D

I don't understand the above sentence. Do you mind clarifying?

imagine if all the lab equipment that collects data has hardware blockchain ledger chips so you cant tampor with it is what i mean

like UN weapons inspectors style

so science cant be faked

eos is the thing teh steem / hive creator @dan larimer made for smart contracts and telos is an eosio chain liek a sister fork sorta, but not a fork

telos very science friendly we could get science funded using telos grants and proposals instead of the federal government one day

ooooh whata revolutionary idea i know lol

 2 years ago  

As I said, blockchains are useful, but they cannot solve any problem. I still keep to my words. I do not see what is the advantage of a chain compared with other methods.

For many scientific experimental devices (this is the relevant part when data taking is at stake), dedicated (centralised) infrastructures are often more suitable. For instance, for the LHC, see here. If you take Virgo/Ligo (gravitational waves), data is released 1.5 years after being taken so that anyone can use it and check it (see here).

Those are two examples I have in mind. For anything else that is not particle-physics-related, I of course cannot tell.

 2 years ago  

PS: I updated my blog accordingly (just had to run away from work for family reasons, and didn't had the time to do it straight away).