Empty out the Hive!

in #hive2 months ago

My buddy OutoftheMatrix posted the results of a chatbot analysis of Hive's downvote cabal slowly eroding that platform, with Blurt positioned well to continue growing. Quite a good writeup, actually! An excerpt:

"The downvote feature has eroded trust. Instead of encouraging open discussion and community engagement, it breeds fear and silence... This suppression has led to disillusionment among writers who joined Hive for its promise of decentralized freedom. As a result, a quiet but steady migration is underway—toward Blurt.blog. Blurt, a similar blockchain-based blogging platform, has taken a bold step by removing the downvote button entirely. On Blurt, content creators can focus on writing, engaging, and building their communities without fear of retaliation or censorship disguised as curation."

Strongly (and accurately) worded.

Hive is Dying

I'd like to add my voice to the growing call to empty out Hive of all the good content creators, curators, and developers! We already have things Hive doesn't have...

... and they have something WE don't have!

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Downvotes were jammed down our throats to suit the agenda of a few powerful whales, and to this day, they've still got control of the goose that lays the golden egg. But many have seen what's going on, and as intelligent and principled members leave, the cabal clutches tighter at their money-maker. They are wringing everything they can from it, at the cost of any potential future growth. They are a cancer, and that cancer has spread throughout the host's body. The exodus accelerates.

Time to ditch the cabal, and set yourself up where they'll never go... because they have no power here! Their toxic echo chamber is crumbling, slowly at first, and then faster and faster.

MANY of us are already here on Blurt. Not to mention, a unique and growing community of individual creators from every country in the world. The Blurt blockchain and token system has been working well, consistently, for years (very little downtime or glitches). Any issues are quickly resolved.

And the chatbot was right, Blurt is where you can do blockchain blogging (and earn tokens) in a familiar setting... but it's the only place you can do that without fear of being censored, or having your rewards cancelled for arbitrary reasons. It breeds a different kind of environment, where people behave themselves... not because they're afraid of being downvoted, but because that's how you gain social value. It's something not quite done anywhere else, a unique environment that fosters creativity, positivity, and innovation.

So COME ON OVER to Blurt! Many who have accounts on Steem already have a corresponding account (and wallet!) here on Blurt. If not, there are lots of free and easy ways to get an account, including a new one coming from @Khrom here. I also have a post about setting up a Blurt account.

If you need help, or some BP to get yourself started here, let me know and I'll hook you up!

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(To my fellow Blurtsters: I encourage you to add a post like this to your own blogs!)

One last thought... Blurt has by far the best name! It's more original, while being perfectly descriptive of what we're about here. Blurt out your feelings, thoughts, ideas, and creativity! Break free of the Hive mind - come build, grow, and express yourself on Blurt.

DRutter

Hive note: Watch this post for massive flags (oh right we're supposed to call them downvotes now) just before payout, reducing it to negative, like every single one of my hundreds of posts over the past few years. Just to really prove my point! Thanks, you cancerous gremlins. We're so glad you're chained to this sinking rock.

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Sir you are writing this on Hive and the aggregate 24h volume for Blurt is listed at $60 right now.
According to the Coingecko I could buy the entire network with a fraction of my Hive stack.

Can you name a single dev that left Hive for Blurt in the last 2 years?
I'd be shocked if there was even one person.

You call Hive a Cabal but Blurt was literally founded on capitalizing on an emergency situation to put the devs who forked it in charge without any regard to how much stake they had. They completely broke the entire stake-based consensus mechanism and pretended like this "solution" was more fair than the Hive distribution. They also couldn't even figure out how to make resource credits work so they just scrapped the entire thing and eventually added fees after a couple of spam attacks forced them to.

I just clicked that link referenced to your quote, and that "quite good writeup" is just an AI prompt that was given a leading narrative to bash Hive? What? That's nuts man.

Sure, downvotes have diminishing returns. The people who support downvotes pretend like there are no downsides, while the people who oppose downvotes pretend like there is no upside. Obviously both sides are wrong.

If Blurt has success, good for them.
I also still have the 16k coins I was airdropped 5 years ago.
Currently worth... $35?

Hive is a tiny tight-knit cultish community.
Blurt can't vampire attack this network.
Nor should it want to, as Hive is such a small/hardened target, why not cast a wider net elsewhere?

This is just the knee-jerk rant that popped into my head upon reading such things.

Thanks for the counterpoint!

I believe that better options for visibility will remedy irresponsible down voting. The opinion of the stakeholders is valuable but not the only criteria to rank posts. Tamp down the self-reinforcing stake-based curation so that what is truly valuable can gain momentum.

I want a feed ranked by people's stake in !BEER ! 😁

developer who left hive for blurt is
@agorise who just created @blurt.media

The volume you are talking about is just probit trading volume, the actual volume considering hive engine and bee swap pools is around 2000-3000 USD per day. HE is simply not listed. Most of the volume goes through HE probably because many blurt users want to reach other exchanges than PROBIT and HE allows them to do so.

Nor should it want to, as Hive is such a small/hardened target, why not cast a wider net elsewhere?

We operate in this area. No one is Vamlirizing anyone. @drutter post is intended to show other users like me or dozens of others who came here to hive because hive is better advertised, but do not like the philosophy that the local devbeopers follow, that there are alternatives without this crap with downvotes.

For example, I used to be a big supporter and advocate of hive, but when I started to question the current system in a sensible and objective way, my @khrom account with many years of experience from steem was destroyed.

I used to think that hive was great, but I realized how crap it was, so much so that I not only switched to blurt but also became a developer. I used to be a blogger with slightly more computer skills, after years of learning I managed to write among others WP blurt publisher, Appreciator, and now I'm working on a panel for subscriptions to games and other services paid for via Blurt.

I encourage you to read more about why Downvote is a mechanism that denies what is happening here as an alternative to anything:

https://peakd.com/hive/@khrom/why-downvotes-contradict-decentralization-a-mathematical-perspective

https://peakd.com/hive/@khrom/the-downvote-economy-how-to-steal-the-value-of-someone-s-work-and-get-rich-off-their-efforts

It's not just a matter of where the bigger money is, it's a matter of philosophy and supporting the solutions you'd like to see. Your money has a say in the sense that wherever you invest it, you support the development of a given idea. If you support another centralized creation ala Facebook only on the blockchain and support censorship and demonetization for reasons of "political correctness" or you are simply interested in profits, then you are where you need to be :P But if you wanted to support the development of web3 and decentralization and were misled by the hive's advertising slogans, then we are here to make you aware that you have been deceived and you do not support it here and you will not find it.

Blurt's creators didn't make any accusations either. More applications are slowly being developed. The difference is in the capital. Remember that Hive, after switching from Steem, received millions of dollars in capital from people who switched, which allowed it to finance a lot. Not to mention that most services switched from Steem to Hive within a few weeks. Blurt, on the other hand, is more of a "garage job" after hours, which is why it's going slowly.

However, this garage job is only a matter of the number of users and investors. If many investors here understand that it's not worth supporting such a giant that has nothing to do with Web 3 and decentralization and freedom of speech (which it shows in its articles) and switch to Blurt, I guarantee you that it's only a matter of time before things speed up and Blurt overtakes Hive.

So it's worth having at least one foot there ;)