Growing Apple Trees in My Basement!

By Canadian Renegade

So, I may have gotten a little carried away. It was early January and I had that itch to grow something. I also just happened to have some apple seeds sitting in my closet. I had purchased them last year but, due to everything that happened in our life, I didn't get around to stratifying them in time to plant in the spring.

When I purchased the seeds I had chosen five varieties. They were Dolgo, Ranetka, Borowinka, Antonovka, and Bittenfelder. I won't get into too much detail why I chose these varieties right now but, I will say, they will all hopefully be good root stocks for the extremely cold climate I live in.

Sprout.JPGOne week old apple tree

I wasn't sure how long the stratifying process would take; the seed packages said either 45 days or 60 days. I also wasn't sure what the germination rate would be because the seeds had sat in the closet for a year. In the end I decided to do just over half the seeds I had. This would still give me plenty of seeds for next year if something went wrong.

Stratification.JPGLeft: Seeds in moist paper towel / Right: Seeds currently in my fridge

Stratifying apple seeds is the process of keeping the apple seeds cold and moist for several months to trick them into thinking that they went through a winter. If you don't do this step and just put the seeds in soil, the germination rate will be little to none. Refrigerators just so happen to be about the right temperature, making it a common location for hobbyists to stratify. I have also read you can just put them in the ground where you want them to grow but this is pretty hard to do around here in January because the ground is frozen.

I had researched a few different mediums for stratifying the seeds but settled on the moist paper towel and baggy method. While not ideal, it was best for my situation. Other methods involve putting the seeds in moist sand or other material like peat. Unfortunately for me we don't have lots of extra refrigerator space and it would be much harder to check all of the seeds if they were hidden in sand or peat. I also needed to keep them well marked and separated so I would know which seeds were which.

racking.JPGLeft: Rack set up / Right: 5 watt fan

I think the first seeds started germinating in the fridge after about a month and this continued for about two months after that, making the germination period anywhere from 30-90 days. Some of the seeds became moldy and rotten which could have been from either the paper towel being too moist or because the seeds were already damaged and cracked. Regardless, make sure your stratifying medium is moist but not sopping wet and check on your seeds weekly so you can catch mold issues early.

Once sprouted, I put the seeds into solo cups with holes in the bottom and placed them under grow lights. These grow lights that I have go by various names on Amazon and are similar to 4' shop lights but with a different spectrum. I usually shy away from Amazon purchases but it is very difficult to find good grow lights locally at a reasonable price.

I also added a small desk top fan which I just taped to the side of the racking. I had previous issues with fungal problems on plants I have grown in my basement. The air is cool and I think it also gets a little stagnant which makes the plants more susceptible to fungus. The fan I have is not ideal, a more wide spread air flow would be better, but this one uses only 5 watts so it was a good choice since this whole system has to run off of our houses solar battery bank.

I put the lights on a timer so I wouldn't have to remember to turn them on and off every day. With the low winter sunlight this far north, I only had the grow lights on about 8 hours a day to start and have been increasing it as our natural sun light and energy production increased. This method may not be optimal but it seems to be working ok at present.

three trees.JPGNot bad for a couple of months under grow lights!

Since the trees are different ages there is quite a difference in size at this point. So far, I would say that this "experiment" has been a success. I currently have 43 apple trees and most of them look healthy! I am sure there will be some losses over the summer and I am also expecting some of them to die the first winter because of the cold. I have read that because of genetic diversity in seeds versus cloned rootstocks that there is quite a bit of variability in cold hardiness.

Hopefully, I will ultimately end up with two or three of each variety that are hardy so that I will be able to make my own clones for future projects. I also have some more plant propagation projects in the works so stay tuned everyone!

Lots.JPGApples, Willows and Sea Buckthorn under grow lights

Have a great day and an apple!

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I have tried this, problem is the seed produces the root stock of the apple you ate. I have not gotten even one apple from planting apple seeds. Have some beautiful trees with no apples. I was trying to grow Braeburn from organic seeds.

Often the seeds saved from a particular variety produce apples that are not similar to the parent and are of lessor quality. All these varieties are used as rootstocks and will likely be grafted onto. So apple quality is not a huge concern. It's a bit weird you aren't getting any apples though. I have never heard of this issue.

Trees are 5 years old the seeds were New Zealand Braeburn. It might be because we are in the other hemisphere?

Maybe, some trees take more then 5 years to fruit. Are they flowering?

No flowers yet Our other apple trees have fruit the flowers are gone.

I think they just aren't old enough. Grafted trees are often on dwarfing rootstock that stunts their growth but also causes them to fruit at a younger age. I suspect since these trees are from seed they just need a few more years. I think I have heard that 7 years is not uncommon.

I am s glad we chatted about this. I was about to pull them and plant some more. I will give them a few more years.

There's a lot happening to form a support network with the communities at the moment. I didn't realise you hadn't posted this in one, but the Natural Medicine community is a good place for it. Unfortunately, most of the homesteading communities haven't really taken off, but NM is really active and I do the Lotus Garden homesteading newsletter for the community.

Using the communities can help us to bring more rewards your way, but don't feel obliged if it's not your thing.

I am still trying to figure out the communities. I need to catch up what has happened in just over the last year.

Also, I used to use the search function a lot on Steemit when I needed to figure out a function but it seems to be broken here at hive. At least for me it is. Any good tutorials you know of?

Searching for content, do you mean? https://hivesearcher.com/ seems to be the best option at the moment, but I think it's via escency, because I always end up with links from that front end. Peakd.com generally seems to work better than hive.blog, by the way. 😉

yeah broken for me too

Seem to work in PeakD though.

Great blog, I'm looking forward to following this feed!

I see your grow-lights are causing issues with some of your photos, I've recently found that using yellow safety glasses as a lens filter can help re-normalize some of the color when taking photos under grow lights.

I've always been advised not to grow fruit trees from seed, because trees grown from seed, even with heirloom varieties, will not always bear fruit. This varies with varieties of trees, the only one I remember number on is apple trees, which average about 1 in 10 trees from seed that will eventually bear fruit.

I'm not trying to discourage you, just want to make you aware so you can better prepare. I hope it works out really well for you, and I hope you post about it here!

You know, I had never heard of trees started from seed not producing fruit until I posted this and you are the second person to mention this in the comments. Luckily most of these trees are suitable as root stocks for my climate so if I plant them and they are duds I can graft something productive onto them.

Nice plan... don't waste anything! Can't wait to see how it all works out!

Great read! I’m looking forward to seeing how they do this summer!

Very cool! I'd have never thought to start fruit trees from seed....

There are some positives and negatives to it. Some of these varieties I can't really get at nurseries so seeds were pretty much the only option.

I will probably do a write up about the varieties I am trying in the near future.

Fun project! I had a sea buckthorn in my yard for a couple of years and then decided to dig it out and replace it with a haskap-much better.

The Sea Buckthorn are definitely not a super palatable berry and they are thorny! I do like them though, they are very hardy and they are deer resistant.

I actually have some Haskaps coming in the mail this year and am eager to try them out.

Ah yes, so inspiring!!!! I remember when you talked about starting your own nursery!!! Out of 43 apple trees I sure hope you get more survivors than just a few from each species.

I had to repost this post cause I want to do do this as well... first a house tho!

Thanks for the ideas

No prob. There seems to be an ever growing list of things we want/need to do. I'm sure it is the same for you!

Oh yes... it grows and grows and grows. And it's hard to accept I don't have time for it all. But Foraging seems to be the one big one for me!

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Well, that's an interesting winter project! 😊
Having the good grow lights probably helps a lot also.

So far I have been happy with the lights. I was originally going to use them for microgreens but they have been handy for other projects as well.

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