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Excessive freedom is the problem ..
We have accepted the view of the foolish in politics and the stupid opinion of medical and economic matters in the name of democracy
We have to judge the mind and moral values are the solution

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if we keep on invading our nature this is soon going to become a reality

Development means a threat to nature.

Hello errajesh,
That has been true in the past ... but we must ensure in future "development" is entirely in tune with nature.

yes @icedrum , you are right we need to tune up with nature. Jai Sadguru Jaggi Maharaj.

Everything in life comes with a price and thats the price we are paying for been civilized, however,it all depends on us to balance the equation by making sure we are getting more of the merits than the demerits.

Very true mayowa,
Thank you for your learned opinion - really appreciated!

Following you now also :D

True words, the biggest threat to civilization is the human itself and the ignorance of them. If this would not happen we would be on the next level already because technology could be much more developed already.

Excellent point cantdecide :D

How about flat-earthers....?

Haha yes!
I actually thank them for making people question what they really know! But I cringe at their assumptions!

Thanks Van :D

haha... I got a couple of flat-earther friends.. So sad for them.! This is a great post tho

Haha thanks Van - following you now also :D

i would argue that the biggest threat of civilization, are the governments of the world due to fear of disruption and at the same time luck of proper education

Thank you Monjan - I agree :D

I wouldn't say it's the government itself, but of course they take their part of it. But even if people get proper education there are so many people who just ignore facts and want to make their own little "world" as it pleases themself. That's the real problem. Government is one part of this.

Too much information is causing problems for us to be able to think for ourselves. We need to get information from credible sources than make our own judgement on what to do.

I do agree ... It is helpful to have truly trustworthy industry and academic professionals that can share their great experience and and superior knowledge. But their credentials and motivations must be 100% respected - which is attainable but sadly not common!

Following you now also - keep well :D

Thanks you as well!!

Brian Cox is correct, as he often is. Thanks for the video

Thank you Oracle
He usually is ... but not on the matter of vaccination I believe.
Thank you for commenting :D

Inresting article , greetings

Thank you saw :D

Awesome post. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you aburashed :D

Great post ! Information every one should have.

Thank you J- Good to see you!
Your support is really appreciated :D

An interesting point of View I think Governments and Religion have a lot to answer for, In terms of the environment we are not helping the, "So Called Ozone Layer" Though life in all forms is cyclical..

Hi Trev,

Thank you for your comment :D

Keep up the good work Ice:)

"In 2007, the CDC reported that it had “no or low effectiveness” against influenza or influenza-like illnesses. The data showed that the flu vaccine protected no more than 14% of those who received it. And this wasn’t some fluke. The vaccine is rarely any more effective than that."

Thank you Moazam,
Excellent point :D

Good post @icedrum. Here in nigeria parent prevents their from vaccine they believe it causes child death, about 95% of the uneducated ones and very few of the educated ones

Inadmissible consumption of limited resources, contamination of water, air pollution, overpopulation.
A meteor strike like the ones that wiped out the dinosaurs would truly challenge civilization’s ability to cope. Tens of millions would die in the strike and subsequent effects like earthquakes, dust and tsunamis. Then an ice age would set it. We are overdue and scientists are warning us we are badly unprepared for such an event. @icedrum

Thanks for sharing your views on such a contentious topic. I didnt have a choice when getting vaccinated as a kid in the 60's but am against them now after years of reading on the topic

Interesting stuff. I don't have children so I'm not in a position to decide whether to vaccinate or not. Personally, I don't trust pharma, a lot of the medicines aren't safe and they do terrible things to people. I don't get the flu shot and when my husband got shingles at 29 from work stress, he chose not to get that vaccine. It's a tricky topic, I appreciate the information you've provided and your openness to discuss.

man its making me so nervous and scared.

Hi Najju,
Do not be alarmed, but always research any medicine you or your loved ones are asked to take.

Keep well :D

poste intéressant je trouve que le vaccin est obligatoire pour les enfants

It's the choices of the parents for choosing what is best for the children however attacks on them only makes it ironical

Life has its own way of evolving. Take mosquitoes for example. In my country, our government tried to eliminate mosquitoes by means of fogging. It ends up mutated the species and now it has immune to the poison once used to kill it.

Hi EK,
Exactly ... this scenario has been repeated many times too often. Greater education and awareness could help avoid such situation in the future!

Thank you for your excellent comment :D

I just don't understand the viewpoint of:" use all vaccines or don't use at all" why is it so black and white?
Why don't look at the gray.

When I had the Flo I decided that I want to let my body heal, I didn't go to class for a few days because I didn't want my classmates to get the Flo but it passed, when my girlfriend needed to take a papiloma vaccines she consult with me and I didn't think for a second that she doesn't need it - so of course use a vaccine.

Why can't it be a combination of the modern medicine and the old medicine?

Just choose your medicine by the specific situation that you in (of course, choose the same way for your children) and not by a believe that you have

When I had the Flo I concluded that I need to give my body a chance to recuperate, I turned out poorly class for a couple of days since I didn't need my colleagues to get the Flo yet it passed, when my better half expected to take a papiloma antibodies she counsel with me and I didn't think for a moment that she needn't bother with it - so obviously utilize an immunization.

For what reason wouldn't it be able to be a blend of the cutting edge medication and the old pharmaceutical?

Simply pick your drug by the particular circumstance that you in (obviously, pick a similar path for your kids) and not by a trust that you have

You need to follow the advice of the doctor or somebody who has knowledge about it because it can be dangerous

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The whole vaccines are (with maybe some exceptions) totally worthless in my opinion.
Why dont we just boost our immune system directly, so it can easily resist all the danger things. Instead of treating our body as garbage and then let the doctor use the magical vaccine to safe us. hehe

Jalebe

the greatest con is the flu vaccine - just study the randomness that the WHO comes up with, it makes no sense. every person I have talked to here in Texas that has had the flu, received the vaccine! handwashing & masks, avoiding crowded places are your best defense.