There is no list I am aware of that is publicly available, but at least one individual has sought relief at the bar from the acquisition of their financial data from Coinbase by the IRS, which they reportedly learned of by the IRS using that information against them.
The IRS has been chasing, demanding, and harassing Coinbase for its users’ transactional information for over a year. Coinbase has been receiving a John Doe summons dating back to December 8th, 2016, with further demands throughout 2017 that transactional data from 2013-2015 should be handed over.
Coinbase fought back and won a partial victory, reducing the amount of data demanded for submission – one battle was won, but the war was lost.
This is the opening of the article you linked.
Your representation that Coinbase is just willingly giving out data to third parties without a fight is not confirmed by your own sources.
I appreciate the criticism. I am often overcome by passion and hyperbolic, which is self-defeating. Clearly Coinbase has more than 14k customers and has not simply provided all the data it has regarding all it's business operations to the IRS. My takeaway from the provision of the data it did provide the IRS was that the data Coinbase possesses regarding it's business operations does not belong to it's clients, but to Coinbase, and it can do what it wants with it's records only as permitted by law.
For this reason doing business with companies that are subjected to legal requirements and pressures by regulators and taxing authorities like the IRS must be carefully considered by individuals that are determined to secure information regarding their private financial matters from such creepy stalkers. Americans are supposed to be secure in their persons, papers, and effects from warrantless searches, and doing business with Coinbase relinquishes security of their financial operations to Coinbase, because both Coinbase and individuals that use Coinbase's services have records of those interactions, and either party can provide that information at their option, or must act as legally required. Laws affecting Coinbase are not the same laws that secure private persons, because Coinbase is a commercial enterprise.
In recent years governments have been eliminating financial privacy that commercial enterprises are able to provide, and it is apparent that regulators intend to attain total information awareness of financial assets and transactions, even to debank persons for political purposes. Commercial enterprises increasingly are compelled by law to provide information to regulatory agencies and taxing authorities, and parties intent on financial and political freedom must secure their operations by managing their use of banks, exchanges, and communications because these operations create data possessed by both parties involved, and this relinquishes data security regarding those operations.
This is why I avoid big exchanges but there is a danger to doing that as well. There was an exchange that dealt with Hive and HBD that just went dark one day and people lost all they had in there. While this didn't affect me very harshly, there were other users on this platform that lost a lot. But as you say, "not your keys, not your coins" and now because of that hard lesson that thankfully didn't affect me a great deal, I deal exclusively with self-proprietary wallets. I feel like all of those are essentially the same but if you have one to suggest that you really like / believe in, I would like to know about it.
It is a disconcerting fact of life that we only learn from experience, and we learn no less from mistakes or hazards that do us ill than we do from our successes and beneficial impacts that do us good.
This is why I don't use banks or CEX's. They are not trustworthy, and financial prudence requires trust. They are thieves and liars, and when you hand them your resources you become vulnerable to their cunning ploys and treachery. I believe my freedom is far more valuable than mere money, and I stand on this principle because I have suffered depredations of my property from these vectors of corruption in the past that left me penniless and unprepared. I did not receive relief from just courts, and have learned to guard my property myself and to rely on none other to secure it for me.
Dear @valued-customer !
I'm curious as to how you store and manage your assets and money?😯
I avoid money, and seek to accrue goodwill balances with good people that provide goods and services to me that I would otherwise have to pay money for. There are some expenses I must undertake as I have not found a way to completely avoid money, but I can purchase money orders for that purpose without involving banks.
Dear @valued-customer !
The United States is such a vast world that it could accommodate individuals like you who have an economic society independent of the central bank.
I don't know money orders!
The world I live in is increasingly transforming into a Chinese communist economy.
The ruling class wants to live as aristocrats with American citizenship, while the ruled class like me becomes serfs in a Chinese-style communist economy.
Those who can earn US dollars become the ruling class, and those who cannot become the ruled class.
So, The ruling class has made it illegal for the ruled to talk to Americans like you.
In the world I live in, only those who can own US dollars can enjoy freedom.
It is blatantly obvious from history that many efforts to force people into unfair economic systems that enslave them have been undertaken in recent millennia. They have all failed and been replaced when people rejected too unfair treatment. Therefore mitigating economic slavery being imposed on you by overlords is not impossible. Indeed, it's inevitable, and awaits only the thoughtful effort of good people.
There are laws in the USA that are unjust. Unjust laws are crimes. Governments are crimes against humanity because their primary purpose is to enable evil overlords to commit crimes under color of law and enrich themselves.
I think the best solution is to obsolete that tool. It is dangerous, and archaic. Remove the barrier between Humanity and Our planet's abundance. Most of Us live in poverty when We own a share of the wealth of Our planet.
I do my best to conduct my affairs with other mechanisms than money. I live in society however, and compromise my desire to eschew money in order to associate with good people that yet accrue money. Indeed, it is their possession of money that allows them to provide alternatives to money to me.
I do understand your own preference to eschew money as well.
It's really beyond a mere eschewing of money. It is removing the need for money, effectively returning to Us what is Ours and was stolen from Us centuries ago. We should not have to prove Our energy input (the foundational function of money) to live richly on Our planet.
Slaves must prove Their energy input.
With necessary work no One wants to do being automated, and People who want to do the remaining necessary work doing it for the joy of doing it, and the thanks, reputation and all They receive from Other for Their work, the necessary things We need will be handled.
And We can do what We love to do.
Presently, about 80% of Us do nothing needed (beyond propping a money system in a moneyed world). We push money around and overall upwards to the moneyed psychopaths in control...
I do hope You choose to spend time with My articles to grasp the whole of what Humanity can create on Our planet.
"We should not have to prove Our energy input (the foundational function of money) to live richly on Our planet.
"Slaves must prove Their energy input."
This isn't factually correct. Sovereign people conduct commerce in which they exchange goods and services that have costs they undertake. These costs inculcate the goods and services with value, and free, sovereign people must reckon the value of the things exchanged to conduct their commerce. Slaves are chattel, and their masters reckon their cost. Slaves do not need to prove anything. They just do what they are told.
I do not understand why you misunderstand these principles, but you do.
When I perform services I invest great effort and skill to provide them. I incorporate goods into peoples' homes that also require great effort and skill to produce. These things have value that my clients reckon is worth providing me equally valuable goods and services for. For some reason you want to treat everyone as a slave in which their valuable service is yours by right, as if you owned them like chattel. I vehemently disagree anyone owes you, or me, or anyone anything, and undertake to reckon the very real costs and value things have to exchange with other free people fairly. We do not need money to do that, but money is a tool that facilitates such commerce. However, through a variety of criminal machinations, money is abused and has become a weapon, so I endeavor to eschew it today because of that weaponization.
That does not mean money is inherently evil, or a weapon. Trees aren't inherently evil, or weapons, even though pointy sticks can be fashioned from them to rob and murder innocent people. Just so money.
You are wrong about what money is, what freedom means, and how to treat one another justly. I have attempted many times to reason with you, as I do here, but you do not seem willing to be reasonable. I wish that it wasn't so, but that's what you do.
You're not catching My point. I am a multimillionaire and yet... I am a targeted, elderly, disabled, denied assistance, lost everything, destitute, and homeless lady, sheltering on a friend's floor and using His web on My 15+ year old laptop.
You are a multimillionaire, and yet You insist We keep track of the energy We add into a system. Keep Most in poverty - all of whom are multimillionaires.
100% of the cost of everything is energy. The resources sit here freely but it takes energy to put them into useful configuration. Free energy tech will obsolete the point of accounting for Our energy.
And I envision, with the Betterment Ethic in place of the slave's creed, the work "ethic," that You will be able to create as You love to do. As will the rest of Us.
I do not grasp why You fail to grasp the different outcomes in scarcity - where making sure a "fair share" of energy is added (by the slaves) - and abundance, which We now can access on Our planet.
You, it seems, want Us tied down and controllable because We need to garner the proof We added Our energy.
And how in the hell freeing Us all to Our wealth, with necessary work no One wants to do being automated, is SLAVERY is beyond Me.
Do You know of the Cestui Que Vie "TRUSTS?" There's one for each of Us, with many millions in them. Maybe read some of My work. You might be enlightened.
That reminds me of a fraud in the vulnerability of my digital bank's system, there have been reports of unauthorized access and money theft due to hacks.
That shows that the maximum security that some banks promise you is a lie.
14000 customers... so like less than 1% of their accounts?
Clearly they were targeting very specific accounts.
which ones?
There is no list I am aware of that is publicly available, but at least one individual has sought relief at the bar from the acquisition of their financial data from Coinbase by the IRS, which they reportedly learned of by the IRS using that information against them.
Thanks!
This is the opening of the article you linked.
Your representation that Coinbase is just willingly giving out data to third parties without a fight is not confirmed by your own sources.
I appreciate the criticism. I am often overcome by passion and hyperbolic, which is self-defeating. Clearly Coinbase has more than 14k customers and has not simply provided all the data it has regarding all it's business operations to the IRS. My takeaway from the provision of the data it did provide the IRS was that the data Coinbase possesses regarding it's business operations does not belong to it's clients, but to Coinbase, and it can do what it wants with it's records only as permitted by law.
For this reason doing business with companies that are subjected to legal requirements and pressures by regulators and taxing authorities like the IRS must be carefully considered by individuals that are determined to secure information regarding their private financial matters from such creepy stalkers. Americans are supposed to be secure in their persons, papers, and effects from warrantless searches, and doing business with Coinbase relinquishes security of their financial operations to Coinbase, because both Coinbase and individuals that use Coinbase's services have records of those interactions, and either party can provide that information at their option, or must act as legally required. Laws affecting Coinbase are not the same laws that secure private persons, because Coinbase is a commercial enterprise.
In recent years governments have been eliminating financial privacy that commercial enterprises are able to provide, and it is apparent that regulators intend to attain total information awareness of financial assets and transactions, even to debank persons for political purposes. Commercial enterprises increasingly are compelled by law to provide information to regulatory agencies and taxing authorities, and parties intent on financial and political freedom must secure their operations by managing their use of banks, exchanges, and communications because these operations create data possessed by both parties involved, and this relinquishes data security regarding those operations.
Thanks!
Suckers,...
Any system that requires armed thugs to persist, sucks.™
Any parasites suck by definition.
Thanks!
This is why I avoid big exchanges but there is a danger to doing that as well. There was an exchange that dealt with Hive and HBD that just went dark one day and people lost all they had in there. While this didn't affect me very harshly, there were other users on this platform that lost a lot. But as you say, "not your keys, not your coins" and now because of that hard lesson that thankfully didn't affect me a great deal, I deal exclusively with self-proprietary wallets. I feel like all of those are essentially the same but if you have one to suggest that you really like / believe in, I would like to know about it.
It is a disconcerting fact of life that we only learn from experience, and we learn no less from mistakes or hazards that do us ill than we do from our successes and beneficial impacts that do us good.
Thanks!
No sure what you mean by self-proprietary, maybe u mean self-custodial?
i think Unstoppable Wallet has better security / privacy than others. https://unstoppable.money/
yeah I meant self custodial... doh!
Dear @valued-customer !
I'm curious as to how you store and manage your assets and money?😯
I avoid money, and seek to accrue goodwill balances with good people that provide goods and services to me that I would otherwise have to pay money for. There are some expenses I must undertake as I have not found a way to completely avoid money, but I can purchase money orders for that purpose without involving banks.
Thanks!
Dear @valued-customer !
The United States is such a vast world that it could accommodate individuals like you who have an economic society independent of the central bank.
I don't know money orders!
The world I live in is increasingly transforming into a Chinese communist economy.
The ruling class wants to live as aristocrats with American citizenship, while the ruled class like me becomes serfs in a Chinese-style communist economy.
Those who can earn US dollars become the ruling class, and those who cannot become the ruled class.
So, The ruling class has made it illegal for the ruled to talk to Americans like you.
In the world I live in, only those who can own US dollars can enjoy freedom.
Thank you!
It is blatantly obvious from history that many efforts to force people into unfair economic systems that enslave them have been undertaken in recent millennia. They have all failed and been replaced when people rejected too unfair treatment. Therefore mitigating economic slavery being imposed on you by overlords is not impossible. Indeed, it's inevitable, and awaits only the thoughtful effort of good people.
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Inheritance Laws 2
Inheritance Tax 2
Comprehensive real estate holding tax
Dear my recpected senior, @valued-customer !
Are there laws like that in the US?
I am a serf, bound to the land!😅
There are laws in the USA that are unjust. Unjust laws are crimes. Governments are crimes against humanity because their primary purpose is to enable evil overlords to commit crimes under color of law and enrich themselves.
The overlords of East Asia have made me a serf, bound to the land. Are you bound to the land?
I hope your health and long life!
I think the best solution is to obsolete that tool. It is dangerous, and archaic. Remove the barrier between Humanity and Our planet's abundance. Most of Us live in poverty when We own a share of the wealth of Our planet.
Obsoleting Money (article): https://odysee.com/@amaterasusolar:8/Obsoleting-Money:1
You Are a Multimillionaire (article): https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/you-are-a-multimillionaire
I do my best to conduct my affairs with other mechanisms than money. I live in society however, and compromise my desire to eschew money in order to associate with good people that yet accrue money. Indeed, it is their possession of money that allows them to provide alternatives to money to me.
I do understand your own preference to eschew money as well.
Thanks!
It's really beyond a mere eschewing of money. It is removing the need for money, effectively returning to Us what is Ours and was stolen from Us centuries ago. We should not have to prove Our energy input (the foundational function of money) to live richly on Our planet.
Slaves must prove Their energy input.
With necessary work no One wants to do being automated, and People who want to do the remaining necessary work doing it for the joy of doing it, and the thanks, reputation and all They receive from Other for Their work, the necessary things We need will be handled.
And We can do what We love to do.
Presently, about 80% of Us do nothing needed (beyond propping a money system in a moneyed world). We push money around and overall upwards to the moneyed psychopaths in control...
I do hope You choose to spend time with My articles to grasp the whole of what Humanity can create on Our planet.
80% of Us Merely Move Money (article): https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/80percent-of-us-merely-move-money
Love always.
This isn't factually correct. Sovereign people conduct commerce in which they exchange goods and services that have costs they undertake. These costs inculcate the goods and services with value, and free, sovereign people must reckon the value of the things exchanged to conduct their commerce. Slaves are chattel, and their masters reckon their cost. Slaves do not need to prove anything. They just do what they are told.
I do not understand why you misunderstand these principles, but you do.
When I perform services I invest great effort and skill to provide them. I incorporate goods into peoples' homes that also require great effort and skill to produce. These things have value that my clients reckon is worth providing me equally valuable goods and services for. For some reason you want to treat everyone as a slave in which their valuable service is yours by right, as if you owned them like chattel. I vehemently disagree anyone owes you, or me, or anyone anything, and undertake to reckon the very real costs and value things have to exchange with other free people fairly. We do not need money to do that, but money is a tool that facilitates such commerce. However, through a variety of criminal machinations, money is abused and has become a weapon, so I endeavor to eschew it today because of that weaponization.
That does not mean money is inherently evil, or a weapon. Trees aren't inherently evil, or weapons, even though pointy sticks can be fashioned from them to rob and murder innocent people. Just so money.
You are wrong about what money is, what freedom means, and how to treat one another justly. I have attempted many times to reason with you, as I do here, but you do not seem willing to be reasonable. I wish that it wasn't so, but that's what you do.
You're not catching My point. I am a multimillionaire and yet... I am a targeted, elderly, disabled, denied assistance, lost everything, destitute, and homeless lady, sheltering on a friend's floor and using His web on My 15+ year old laptop.
You are a multimillionaire, and yet You insist We keep track of the energy We add into a system. Keep Most in poverty - all of whom are multimillionaires.
100% of the cost of everything is energy. The resources sit here freely but it takes energy to put them into useful configuration. Free energy tech will obsolete the point of accounting for Our energy.
And I envision, with the Betterment Ethic in place of the slave's creed, the work "ethic," that You will be able to create as You love to do. As will the rest of Us.
I do not grasp why You fail to grasp the different outcomes in scarcity - where making sure a "fair share" of energy is added (by the slaves) - and abundance, which We now can access on Our planet.
You, it seems, want Us tied down and controllable because We need to garner the proof We added Our energy.
And how in the hell freeing Us all to Our wealth, with necessary work no One wants to do being automated, is SLAVERY is beyond Me.
I know You won't read, but I will offer again:
80% of Us Merely Move Money (article): https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/80percent-of-us-merely-move-money
80% and more. Jobs that would not be there if (when?) the SHTF. How many telemarketers would there be? Or bankers, for that matter...initially.
You are not a millionaire and do not own your environment. You need to make things others value so they will exchange valuable things to you for them.
You know this. You're just in denial. There is no point to continuing this discussion, so I won't.
Do You know of the Cestui Que Vie "TRUSTS?" There's one for each of Us, with many millions in them. Maybe read some of My work. You might be enlightened.
Trusts: The Big Heist Against Humanity (article): https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/trusts-the-big-heist-against-humanity
@valued-customer, I paid out 0.818 HIVE and 0.160 HBD to reward 14 comments in this discussion thread.
That reminds me of a fraud in the vulnerability of my digital bank's system, there have been reports of unauthorized access and money theft due to hacks.
That shows that the maximum security that some banks promise you is a lie.
Indeed, the real threat to your assets is the bank itself.
Thanks!