Should you use a bear bag or bear vault when backpacking for food storage?
Here are my thoughts on the choices. Pro's and con's of both based on my life long experience. In just the last 10 years I have trekked over 12,000 miles of back country trails. I've stayed out for literally months at a time with nothing more than what I can carry on my back. I have done the entire Appalachian mountains, 2/3rds of the Pacific Crest trail, and over a 1000 miles of the North Country trail as well as many others. I hope my knowledge and experience provides some insight to your adventure and helps you better choose your gear and makes for a safer more exciting trip...
Bear Bag:
With a bear bag you need to look for a tree with the right branch to hang it from. In order to have the best chances at keeping the bag safe from animals you need to follow a few rules…
Rule 1: It must be on a sturdy branch.
Rule 2: It must hang at least 4-5 feet from the trunk of the tree.
Rule 3: It needs to hang at least 4 feet below the branch it is hanging from and 4 feet away from any nearby branches.
Rule 4: It must be at least 10-12 feet above the ground for black bear country and higher for grizzly country.
Rule 5: It must be 100 yards or greater from camp and water sources.
Bear Vault:
A bear vault doesn’t need to be hung from a tree. However you do need to follow these rules…
Rule 1: Keep outside of vault clean.
Rule 2: When done using, place 100 yards or greater from camp and water sources.
Rule 3: Place where it will be easy to find again and not fall off a cliff or into a non-accessible crevice etc… (some people tie it to a tree but this can give animals a handle to carry it off with).
PROS & CONS
Bear Bag PROS:
- Weighs less, 2. Generally holds more food, 3. Usually waterproof, 4. Can be scent proof, 5. Compresses as food decreases, 6. Can form fit to backpack.
Bear Vault PROS:
- Waterproof, 2. Bear proof, 3. Use as a stool/seat, 4. Use as a sink, 5. Use to wash clothes in, 6. Saves time finding tree branches to hang from, 7. Less arguments in crowded campsites over precious tree branches, 8. Gives you more time for other things, 9. Generally floats, 10. Prevent injuries from trying to hang in trees, 11. Use in campsites with no trees, 12. No damage to trees, 13. Required in some places, 14. Easier to use in bad weather, 15. If animal finds vault your food should remain safe.
Bear Bag CONS:
- Hard to find the right tree branch, 2. Bears/animals are getting smarter, 3. Not animal proof, 4. Takes lots of time to hang, 5. Frustrating, 6. Can cause injury, 7. Can damage tree, 8. Sucks using in rain/storms, 9. gets holes from animals or use then no longer water/scent proof, 10. Can cause arguments over placement in crowded areas, 11. If animal gets a hold of bag generally your food is lost even if you get bag back
Bear Vault CONS:
- Weighs more, 2. Doesn’t compress as food depletes, 3. Can get displaced/lost if animal kicks it around, 4. Holds less food generally, 5. Isn’t form fitting to backpack
I hope this blog helps other hikers and backpackers make their choice a bit easier as to which to carry. I have used Bear Bags for nearly 20 years and never had an issue until 2015. A bear came into camp and stole several bear bags (not mine thankfully). My dog Kyle ran the bears off before they got mine and his bags and he rescued the other peoples bags. Animals (bears especially) are getting smarter.
Most of my hiking over the last 20 years was not in areas that were heavy with hikers except for my yearly spring section hikes on the Appalachian Trail. So the animals I encountered may not have had enough training opportunities to learn how to get a hold of my Bear Bag over those years. I will still use a Bear Bag in some occasions, on some trails, but as for use in heavily hiked areas I will now use the Bear Vault.
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Thanks for all the info. Sounds like the bear vault is the best thing to use in a well hiked area.
Well, written and good insight to what works best for you.
thanks... i try...
Yeah bears love food! Good write-up! And I'm definitely going to keep hiking in the wilderness.
Pays to have a plan though! Good thoughts!
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thank you. the bears just trying to keep up with the jones's so to speak haha...
Well make it a game.. Ha! Really reward the bears!
You said it earlier they can get into it and work them. Not foolproof. But it is a smart option to hide the bacon.
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