As I have replied earlier, you realize that many people find whales self votes to appear greedy? The concentration of the rewards pool in a handful of accounts also prevents rewards from inuring to a far broader base, which prevents those rewards from achieving their purpose: rewarding content creators.
The price of Steem is dependent on the performance of Steemit. Should Steemit rapidly grow and keep those new accounts, the price of Steem will rise tremendously. Whales own Steem, and stand to realize gains ranging from thousands to millions of percentage increase.
If those new accounts are discouraged because the rewards are being concentrated through financial manipuations, and they can't get them, that price appreciation won't happen, because Steemit won't keep those new users long.
Why are we just looking at comments, There are people putting out 10 post plus a day. They also have a lot of steem power. they are taking out thousands a day.
My best guess (I am but another commenter on this post) is that there is general acceptance of upvoting one's own posts, but the community frowns on self voting comments.
What is the difference though a comment is just a smaller post. There are authors who put out a 1 min video 15 times a day and take out 100 plus, That is the same thing. These guys could just post 15 times a day and then no big deal. Platform still suffers the same.
Here's how I see the difference. When we post on our personal blog, we are responsible for the concept, the idea that the post treats. Since this is a fundamentally creative act, and we initiate the introduction of that concept into the world, we are given some credit (not in terms of finance, but recognition of our originating power) by the community.
That's the reason for the checkbox that enables us to automatically self vote our posts, imho.
However, when we comment on another's post, we are merely adding to their original concept. Our voice is worthy of recognition only insofar as it is recognized as a contribution to the author's work. So, we don't have a checkbox to self vote our comments, automatically.
You are right that both comments and posts are equally derived from our work writing. Since that is the fundamental difference between the two that I see, that one is origination, and the other addition, that is why I think they are treated differently.
I just never self vote my comments. I only get 10 votes anyway. When I comment another's post I usually try to upvote the post. However, I may comment as many as 100 times a day (I know, I'm like, addicted lol) and rarely can. I have to be content that my comments (hopefully) add value to the author's post.
I am chafing under the burden of so few votes per day. It may yet be DAYS until I can vote again =/ All I can do is to provide such encouragement with my words, and such value as they may provide to the author's whose work I found interesting enough to comment.
Really, I am not so concerned that people are accumulating wealth by self voting, as I am that they aren't rewarding authors. As you point out, whales self votes are a considerable income, and were they to curate that potential income away, it can be seen as fiscal irresponsibility - they are throwing away income. This is a very strong motivation to self vote, which many overcome to curate anyway.
Minnows self voting their comments just fail to understand that those votes are but a shadow of the value of supporting those authors whose work intrigued them, or whose voices they want to support, because the community they are a part of depend on that mutual support.
The value of the community to each of us is so much greater than what we can give ourselves, that it's hard to even quantify. We think of a community as additive, 1+1+1 more, etc..
But really it's exponential, as each addition to our community is also an addition to each of the members of the community. We don't see those relationships, but they are formed and strengthen the group we are in.
LOL sorry to go off on a tangent. Imma shut up now =p
As I have replied earlier, you realize that many people find whales self votes to appear greedy? The concentration of the rewards pool in a handful of accounts also prevents rewards from inuring to a far broader base, which prevents those rewards from achieving their purpose: rewarding content creators.
The price of Steem is dependent on the performance of Steemit. Should Steemit rapidly grow and keep those new accounts, the price of Steem will rise tremendously. Whales own Steem, and stand to realize gains ranging from thousands to millions of percentage increase.
If those new accounts are discouraged because the rewards are being concentrated through financial manipuations, and they can't get them, that price appreciation won't happen, because Steemit won't keep those new users long.
That's why not.
Why are we just looking at comments, There are people putting out 10 post plus a day. They also have a lot of steem power. they are taking out thousands a day.
My best guess (I am but another commenter on this post) is that there is general acceptance of upvoting one's own posts, but the community frowns on self voting comments.
What is the difference though a comment is just a smaller post. There are authors who put out a 1 min video 15 times a day and take out 100 plus, That is the same thing. These guys could just post 15 times a day and then no big deal. Platform still suffers the same.
Here's how I see the difference. When we post on our personal blog, we are responsible for the concept, the idea that the post treats. Since this is a fundamentally creative act, and we initiate the introduction of that concept into the world, we are given some credit (not in terms of finance, but recognition of our originating power) by the community.
That's the reason for the checkbox that enables us to automatically self vote our posts, imho.
However, when we comment on another's post, we are merely adding to their original concept. Our voice is worthy of recognition only insofar as it is recognized as a contribution to the author's work. So, we don't have a checkbox to self vote our comments, automatically.
You are right that both comments and posts are equally derived from our work writing. Since that is the fundamental difference between the two that I see, that one is origination, and the other addition, that is why I think they are treated differently.
I just never self vote my comments. I only get 10 votes anyway. When I comment another's post I usually try to upvote the post. However, I may comment as many as 100 times a day (I know, I'm like, addicted lol) and rarely can. I have to be content that my comments (hopefully) add value to the author's post.
I am chafing under the burden of so few votes per day. It may yet be DAYS until I can vote again =/ All I can do is to provide such encouragement with my words, and such value as they may provide to the author's whose work I found interesting enough to comment.
Really, I am not so concerned that people are accumulating wealth by self voting, as I am that they aren't rewarding authors. As you point out, whales self votes are a considerable income, and were they to curate that potential income away, it can be seen as fiscal irresponsibility - they are throwing away income. This is a very strong motivation to self vote, which many overcome to curate anyway.
Minnows self voting their comments just fail to understand that those votes are but a shadow of the value of supporting those authors whose work intrigued them, or whose voices they want to support, because the community they are a part of depend on that mutual support.
The value of the community to each of us is so much greater than what we can give ourselves, that it's hard to even quantify. We think of a community as additive, 1+1+1 more, etc..
But really it's exponential, as each addition to our community is also an addition to each of the members of the community. We don't see those relationships, but they are formed and strengthen the group we are in.
LOL sorry to go off on a tangent. Imma shut up now =p