We are Making Good Progress

in #steem4 years ago (edited)

Dear Steemians,

We listened to the Steem community, and we always will. While we do not agree, nor obviously support the recent hardfork, we continue to find ways to show our commitment to developing our Steem ecosystem with the support of our great community. We love Steem and we are always supporting a united community since we believe that united we stand, divided we fall.

Steemit will always stay.

And yes, we did add the ability to hide posts that violated the terms of condition of steemit.com, those posts are still existing in the blockchain but not showing in steemit.com website, as we need to support our content and the community's content. Would any commercial website support a post that encourages all users to migrate to another one? No. That would not be in the best interest of the community and the Steem ecosystem.

All this being said, we are fully committed to supporting witnesses that vow to protect all Steemians’ stake. We will support any witnesses who publicly announce their promise to secure accounts, as well as update to SF 22.5.

Examples of these actions include the following community members which we have already voted for.

@triple.aaa:
https://steemit.com/witness-category/@triple.aaa/triplea-witness

@steem-dragon:
https://steemit.com/steem/@steem-dragon/steemdragon

@matreshka:
https://steemit.com/steem/@matreshka/matreshka-vash-russkii-witness

@zzan.witness: https://steemit.com/witness-category/@zzan.witnesses/make-an-entrance-steemzzan-witness

@Future.witness: https://steemit.com/delegations/@steemba/open-letter-from-dapps-to-justinsuntron

@steemhunt: https://steemit.com/delegations/@steemba/open-letter-from-dapps-to-justinsuntron

We also withdrew some of the vote of 11 temporary witnesses out of 20 and power downed @happylife123 and @onestepaday and will continue to do so with all temporary witnesses. Eventually we will put governance back in the hands of the community as soon as possible.

We will also be delegating Steem Power back to some of the projects decided on by the Delegation Committee and we will have a more frequent and transparent process of delegation. We would like to reassure you that we are committed to Steem for the long-term and plan to bring more value to Steem than even before. Behind the scenes, please be assured that we are working around the clock to make this a success, and create a path forward by returning governance back to normal within the next two weeks. We have a plethora of resources and a world class team that is dedicated to working on Steem and making it become the best decentralized social network we all envision.

The Steemit Team

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Congratulations. You just permanently deleted the main value proposition Steemit has promoted for years. What happened to proof of brain?! Since the beginning, you've promoted the idea of allowing community and stakeholders to collectively judge what content should be Trending and receive attention. The accounts and posts you've now blocked received overwhelming support from the community, and you just made the decision to ignore community consensus and remove it. Thus deleting everything Steemit has worked to promote and found its future ideas for SMTs on.

And what's the idea of pointing to what a commercial website would do? The whole point of Steem/Steemit has always been to provide something different. It's funny to see the new owners themselves state what others have said as a joke, that you may as well not use a blockchain at all and just run a normal database if you're just going to ignore what's on the blockchain whenever it suits you.

Interesting... Facebook does not hide posts about it's competitors.
many other important and relevant social media do not hide form competition.

Sorry, but CENSORSHIP is not Decentralized.

Can you show me where in the TERMS hide posts that violated the terms of condition of steemit.com

Give them a minute or two to edit the terms! It's like you expect them to change history immediately.

Censorship is now happening on Steemit.com
To all community members: to see all the posts uncensored, use Steempeak.com. Here's the details of the censorship: https://steempeak.com/steem/@themarkymark/steemit-inc-now-censors-posts-from-the-ui

검열은 Steemit 또는 다른 분산 플랫폼에서 작동하지 않습니다.
이것은 가장 큰 실수입니다. 우리는 중국이 아닙니다. 우리는 반대 생각을 검열하지 않을 것입니다. 넌 길을 잃었 어
Tron의 검열 된 게시물을 보려면 steempeak.com을 사용하십시오.

审查对于Steemit或任何其他分散式平台永远都行不通。
这是您犯的最大错误。我们不是中国。我们不会审查反对的想法。你迷路了,我的孩子。
要查看未经Tron审查的帖子,请使用steempeak.com

You are still here?

so it's straight out of 1984 then :/

it's in term 14.b.a where it says "you shall not compete with Steemit or we will block you and hate you forever and delete your posts"

Censorship is now happening on Steemit.com
To all community members: to see all the posts uncensored, use Steempeak.com. Here's the details of the censorship: https://steempeak.com/steem/@themarkymark/steemit-inc-now-censors-posts-from-the-ui

검열은 Steemit 또는 다른 분산 플랫폼에서 작동하지 않습니다.
이것은 가장 큰 실수입니다. 우리는 중국이 아닙니다. 우리는 반대 생각을 검열하지 않을 것입니다. 넌 길을 잃었 어
Tron의 검열 된 게시물을 보려면 steempeak.com을 사용하십시오.

审查对于Steemit或任何其他分散式平台永远都行不通。
这是您犯的最大错误。我们不是中国。我们不会审查反对的想法。你迷路了,我的孩子。
要查看未经Tron审查的帖子,请使用steempeak.com

I would only point out that my stemmit posts HAVE BEEN blocked by facebook more than a few times.

I tender my resignation from the delegation committee. I don't support the censorship, nor the sock puppets, nor the human puppets, nor the steemit stake voting, nor the name calling, nor the lies to exchanges, nor the lies from the exchanges, nor really any action taken by steemit/justin/tron since Feb 14. Another sad day for Steem. Your only courses of action seem to be bribes, insults, censorship, and failure.

Not to change the subject, nor diminish respect for your action demonstrating your adherence to sound and necessary principle by your resignation, but I have yet to see what Steem-Engine must do, or stakeholders must, to migrate to Hive. Could you please address this matter in a timely way?

Thanks!

  • What terms of service did all 19 of those posts violate ?
  • Whats with the extra blacklist server in China ?
  • Who is the Steemit Team exactly ?
  • Why do you think we would believe these fresh sockpuppets are any better then the old ones ?
  • What will you do with the 100k Steem the socks have made so far ?

It's waaaaay too little, and waaay too late

Please remove free downvotes, I want to turn on my bidbot and get back to vote selling business. Let's make Steem great again!

Don't forget about instant power downs to make all that cash flow straight into your pocket. ;)

I’m on board with instant power downs now... Gotta trade for Hive!

That's great idea!

Yes, why not! Let’s have at least some fun on this wastedump!

Censorship is now happening on Steemit.com
To all community members: to see all the posts uncensored, use Steempeak.com. Here's the details of the censorship: https://steempeak.com/steem/@themarkymark/steemit-inc-now-censors-posts-from-the-ui

검열은 Steemit 또는 다른 분산 플랫폼에서 작동하지 않습니다.
이것은 가장 큰 실수입니다. 우리는 중국이 아닙니다. 우리는 반대 생각을 검열하지 않을 것입니다. 넌 길을 잃었 어
Tron의 검열 된 게시물을 보려면 steempeak.com을 사용하십시오.

审查对于Steemit或任何其他分散式平台永远都行不通。
这是您犯的最大错误。我们不是中国。我们不会审查反对的想法。你迷路了,我的孩子。
要查看未经Tron审查的帖子,请使用steempeak.com

Would any commercial website support a post that encourages all users to migrate to another one? No.

Yes, lots of websites have allowed this. Digg.com. Reddit.com. Myspace.com. Friendster, among many others.

This. Hiding such posts is only a sign of real weakness. Steemians who still care about what have been the core values of Steem for ages should 1. Do their own posts to highlight what's going on, and 2. make sure it gets seen.

It's not just about censorship resistance. It's about community and user co-ownership and proof of brain as the source for content discovery and ranking...

Probably any respectable website.

































































































































































































@flagtrash that way you censor legit comments from the hive community. I want to have the ability to read these comments easily.

Dude thought all sites are like those censored Chinese sites lol

In two weeks time there will be no community left... let alone still willing to support your new puppet government, it is no improvement over the sock puppets and shows your continued ignorance of what decentralisation means.

Hiding the posts on steemit.com cracks most steemians up, as hardly anyone uses your shitty front end - it just confirms yet another massive issue - censorship is now endorsed by steemit on the steem blockchain, that goes against the fundamental principals most if not all steemians hold dear.... lmao you just encouraged those still holding out hope to jump ship with the rest of us, not to mention the free publicity you're sending our way.

you do realize that censoring what appears on steemit.com first guarantees those who remain will STOP using steemit.com and second will in fact MOVE to the other chain exclusively

NOT A GOOD MOVE for the community. For any community.

Would any commercial website support a post that encourages all users to migrate to another one?

Yes, it's normal for social media platforms to allow competitors to create accounts and advertise their services, and actively censoring these posts is antithetical to the value proposition of this blockchain.

Remember this Tron team comes from an AUTHORITARIAN government. Censorship is normal to them.

We don't know who made this change or who authorized it.

Would any commercial website support a post that encourages all users to migrate to another one? No.

If you want users to stay you need to convince them by being better than the others. Censorship is a sign of weakness, desperation.

It's over, Justin. You just don't want to accept it yet.

Double speak authoritarian centralist bullshit.

I honestly thought 1984 didn't apply in the online world, then you took over Steem. What a total fuck up you've made of it.

Best of luck censoring these comments.

Something else for you to react to in a knee-jerk way.

On a decentralized blockchain, you most certainly allow for posts urging folks to migrate somewhere else. Good ideas don't have to be enforced.

ETA: If you don't want people to leave, build a better blockchain. Newsflash: Centralized blockchain is not better. Tron is also not better.

"Good ideas don't have to be enforced." Exactly.
Remember this Tron team comes from a country where censorship on WeChat and Weibo is standard practice. But even I thought this would never happen to a "decentralized blogging platform"
This is UNPRECIDENTED. VILE. UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE.
When the press, @coindesk finds out about this, TRON and Justin Sun WILL BE TOAST. This is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the entire reason crypto was invented. Satoshi would be ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE.
Shame on you justin.

Also,

"We'll allow the community to rule themselves as long as they rule in accordance with our wishes."

You can vote for any president you want as long as his name starts with Xi and ends with Jinping. Thank you very much for understanding.

So you admit your censorship. So much for freedom on the Steem blockchain. If you could make a good case for people to stay you would not need to do this, but Justin has shown his contempt for Steemians. I have no wish to 'fuck him'. Your witnesses are not supported by the community. Prepare for a great exodus and for the Steem token to tank. I do not even care that my Steem will lose value.

Goodbye.

Good job with that quick condenser update. You can now censorship any uncomfortable post.

Wow @steemhunt, didnt expect you guys to be traitors... where can i dump my tokens???

Eventually we will put governance back in the hands of the community as soon as possible.

... until that community says something they arent supposed to say.

You are fucking despicable. I thought calling you guys communists and CCP was a "edgy burn" but you are the crypto embodiment of the CCP and everything all of us here wanted to escape...

You disgust me.

This is simply unfortunate confirmation that our once-beloved decentralized blockchain has been overtaken by privatized interests (perhaps it always was.) To be clear – there is absolutely nothing 'decentralized' about censorship. PERIOD.

I had admittedly been undecided about how I might proceed after tomorrow's HF, but this post has made my choice for me. I've given much to this chain, but...it's time to accept my losses and move on. How very disappointing.

actually, it won't be a loss to move to HIVE. We will have total freedom on HIVE. All your posts and everything will be saved on HIVE. There will be no censorship on HIVE, so you will be free. And your steem balance will be transferred to HIVE balance, so you won't be losing anything, but you will be gaining your freedom.

Thank you – I didn't mean to insinuate that a move to HIVE represents a loss of all previous efforts. It's more akin to, say...leaving a home you'd felt comfortable in, moving on to occupy some new, as yet unknown space.

In fact, I'm quite excited about Hive's potential. Right out the gate – from branding to UI – I think HIVE is better set for global adoption; it's clean, simple, attractive and easy to spell. ;)

See you over there, miss Stellebelle. <3

"We will have total freedom on HIVE."

This is certainly my hope, but not my expectation. Perhaps passion is necessary to paradigm shifts, but abandoning our grasp of reality in our passion is not. Let's keep it real so that we can functionally undertake actions necessary to make our freedom.

No matter who is offering to provide you freedom, they cannot. That free people must do themselves, and doing so begins with understanding the obstacles that always have, and always will, be in the way.

Fuck you and fuck everyone that is still at SteemitInc. All of those with backbones have left. Justin Sun has come in and singlehandedly screwed over an entire community and all that everyone has worked for. He has turned the greatest decentralized blockchain into nothing more than a centralized piece of shit that is following in the footsteps of Tron. The community is excited for Hive and you want to censor the community for that. This isn't China where you can dictate what people say and do. So fuck you Justin Sun. Eat a bag of dicks.

Will you be putting unfavourable comments in our censorship blocked list on Steemit? Fortunately I'm writing this from hive.blog right now.

You, young man, give the entire Cryptosphere a bad name! Your actions have caused more FUD concerning the adoption of cryptocurrency by the mainstream populace than any other thing, ever.

I hope you are proud of yourself! The Rebel Alliance (AKA Hive) are off to our new base.

DARKSUN.JPG

DPoS is something you can not centralize, and it shows. Good luck with your steem bag

there is almost zero point in responding to Justin Sun at this point
Steem will go to zero. He just put the nail in the coffin.

Hah! I am sure you have heard the buzz. We don't really care what you do with Steem now.

Enjoy your dead chain @justinsunsteemit @elipowell and various @steemit gang.

"While we do not agree, nor obviously support the recent hardfork..."

I think you mean the HF about to be undertaken.

"...we did add the ability to hide posts..."

You have deprecated the purpose of Steem by this action, and proved your hostility to freedom and the decentralization of governance that belies the words of this OP, and every assertion of support for freedom you have ever made in the past. Your rhetoric clearly is nothing of relevance, except as an attempt to fool anyone stupid enough to believe what you say, as your actions directly impose censorship and complete centralization of governance imposed on your hapless subjects.

Tomorrow I will be free of you, and your base aggrandizement of wealth and power that degrades society for your personal benefit. I could not more aptly state my personal sovereign rights and freedom than by moving to Hive. May you enjoy complete ownership of every Steem that exists, or ever will - because without a market besides yourself, it will have no value at all.

Just like your words.

Bye.

The terms of service also states that ownership of Steemit will not interfere with governance.. But here we are.

You're working so hard and yet all you manage to do is push us farther and farther into pro-Hive because of how vacuous this all is. You'll put the governance in the hands of people who are letting you pay them off to agree with this bullshit.

https://steempeak.com/steem/@themarkymark/steemit-inc-now-censors-posts-from-the-ui

Steemit is part of the Hive marketing team. This post is just part of the campaign to push users away. They're like the wind that blows the ships away to new lands.

I assume Steemit Inc. and Tron will cease promoting their ecosystems on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, and the rest of the internet as you operate competing products and obviously feel it would be unethical to promote there.

Steem will die under your leadership. Long live Hive!

LOL.

Dear Steemit

By the time you read this, I will be dead.

You said words again today better left unsaid.
How can I ever believe you after being misled?

You have hearts made of lead.
Your witnesses ass cheeks are spread.

You lost a good one today because of this thread.
I had to die, because you're fucked in the head.

Suck my dick.

ps Learn what blockchain is.

lol

Guess steemit will need to find a way to censor the comments, now.
Good ideas should win. Trying to keep your user base ignorant because you have an inferior product is no way to compete. You should be embarrassed

Steem is on its way to $0.00.. @justinsunsteemit has already proved that he is a liar as well as a chameleon. We don't believe in you. Hive on!

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I just want to be the first here to thank you @justinsunsteemit. Thank you for fucking up so bad, that a fork was not only viable, it has the chance to do better than the original.

Ah, this feels so much like democracy. Just like in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Love it. So sad I'll be migrating to HIVE.

Oh, hey a small list of people who aren't getting any Hive tokens... Bahahahaha

They are on our side now, helping us improve our Hive experience even before the launch!

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