Yep. no discussion. Just shadow banning on a massive scale. I thought Zuckerberg was bad and came here to flee the shadow banning. Sad to find out that it is far worse over here.
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Yep. no discussion. Just shadow banning on a massive scale. I thought Zuckerberg was bad and came here to flee the shadow banning. Sad to find out that it is far worse over here.
There is no shadowbanning on Steem front ends, as far as I'm aware. And definitely nothing of the sort in Steem itself.
I respectfully disagree. Why does it say "hidden" because of low reputation. It is worse than shadow banning because you take a financial hit on top of the insult.Shadow banning by any other name is the same. You are made invisible...same thing. Shadow banning is a bad thing and people are leaving facebook in droves on account of it. Is this where you would like to see Steemit head?
Stephen, I'm sure you mean well, but please explain to me how inconveniencing someone with an extra click equals shadow banning.
If I was to get flagged to "hidden" all you would have to do is click show and my comment would be revealed.
How is this equal or worse than shadow banning?
For context, when someone is shadow banned, that person is not aware that he/she is being censored. This means that he/she keeps on posting completely convinced interaction has dropped, or that no one really cares about the content.
If I get flagged to hidden, I'm also aware of it.
So the two main elements needed to make that connection don't seem present, so again... I know you mean well, but I don't see how you've made this particular connection.
Regarding some of your thoughts on bullying... I agree with some. I think if you are to bring some balance to the conversation it will be from that angle and not this forced analogy you are weaving.
I say this respectfully.
Thank you for your excellent social manners. Tell me what makes the flag good? Why do you favor it?
There are times when it has been very useful to fight back things like child pornography, pyramid schemes, and many other activities that have absolutely no place in a healthy community.
So, no doubt, it should not be the default response to disagreements for sure. I think that is kind of a cultural challenge, something all of us should attempt to do our part to shift.
I respectfully disagree. The two issues you mentioned are legal issues and should be handled by law enforcement not trolls. There are laws regarding both issues. Neither of these issues should be handled by the membership. The responsibility of any individual that has been witness to a crime is to inform law enforcement. It is not the responsibility of members to be police, judge and executioner. Plagerism is also a legal issue. Why put legal matters in the hands of trolls and malcontents. I stand on my original premise, the the flag has no legitimate justification for its existence.
Oh I see your angle now, and I'm starting to understand you a lot better.
Well, the challenge is that on a dapp (decentralized application) there is absolutely no way currently of tracking anyone who uses a dapp. Accounts who are planning on doing ilegal activities operate 100% in anonymity.
Since a blockchain ledger is distributed all around the world, there is not even an effective way to trace from where the bad actors are interacting from.
This makes it to where the only recourse we have for controlling the situation, for keeping some level of civility is to use financial deterrents.
It's as if we were dealing with a terrorist regime, diplomacy is a no go, accountability is a joke, so all we can do is sanction them to 0 income so that they have no choice but to desist.
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On facebook you are bullied and shadow banned. On Steemit you are bullied and shadow banned while having your wallet fleeced. Steemit is worse.
They should not try to sweep miscreance under the rug thinking it will go away. Defiance to evil is service to God. Allowing the truth to rise to the top is the cure for miscreant behaviors. Address the evil head on. In Steemit that can never occur. Liberty works if we let it. Let the truth rise to the top. Fear clouds reason.
George Orwell was always right.
Farm of Animals (Original title: Animal Farm) is a dystopian fable by George Orwell, published in 1945. Contents is the collection of animals of an English farm against the rule of their human owner, who neglected and exploits them. After initial successes and beginning prosperity, the pigs take over more and more the leadership and eventually build a tyranny that is worse than the one who wanted to shake off the animals.
I translated it with google, so it's a bad translation
Excellent point!