I also agree that the HIVE airdrop was a critical mistake and should have been given to all non-Steem inc. accounts regardless. The exclusion of certain accounts was an unbalanced decision owing largely to emotions. Strategically, it was an error, in my opinion. The HIVE token may have performed less well in the short term as Steem supporters would have surely dumped the majority of their Hive holdings but the break would have been cleaner. In the longterm, people would see the obvious superiority of the Hive chain, the community presence, a stable and secure network in contrast with the unfeasibility and insecurity of the old chain. Just my thoughts, thanks for posting your, cheers.
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I disagree and ask you consider the following(and please do suggest counter points :))
Air dropping to bad actors will get more bad actions from those bad actors, the very actions we forked to get away from
Nobody is entitled to be part of any given community, these people were not invited into our "village" because they are anti our village
Nobody is entitled to the work of others(all the work HF involved/planning/etc), I am thankful I was air dropped Hivepower so I have resources to perform actions on this chain
People who are anti-hive/troublemakers would dump coins causing price instability for the medium term which would make us look less credible(BTC is worth more, must be the REAL BITCOIN! ;0)
Those who think they should get the air drop from what I understand can submit a proposal to ask for those coins, but they are not entitled to them
I agree @truthforce.
HIVE was created for people who believe in Decentralization.
This is what Steem originally stood for, but when Justin Sun took over the blockchain, and certain people supported him, it became easier to see who would rather have a platform run by a controlling entity.
I can understand that some people thought having Justin Sun in charge would make their Steem price increase because they hoped that he had the business savvy to do so (even though it seemed clear to me from the beginning that Justin Sun suffers from Narcissitic Personality Disorder and acts emotionally rather than doing what is best for his pocketbook)
... so those people who voted for Justin and several of his sockpuppet witness accounts simultaneously, got to keep all of their Steem and see how Justin steers the ship
... while the rest of us moved on to HIVE where we could continue our "decentralized" experiment.
The idea that anyone stole anyone else's HIVE, is such an entitled way of thinking. Our Steem home was stolen away from us by Justin, and we were forced to move to a new home. Of course we aren't going to give free gifts to the people who supported him in pushing us out!!
As far as I am concerned, the initial soft fork to temporarily freeze Justin's funds while we pursued discussions with him, has proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have been 100% the right move. Justin loves to blame everybody else for his temper tantrums and theft, but none of that is our fault; it is all the result of his personality disorder and irrational actions. But like a true narcissist, he can not accept one ounce of blame or even be a savvy businessman. At least the way things played out exposed Justin's true colors EARLY, and helped us move on early to our new home of HIVE.
Perhaps our only mistake was not creating HIVE sooner than we did.
I was THRILLED when I finally got the news that we all had a new home and renewed hope that our community could thrive afterall.
Yes! Justin Sun is a narcissist. Everything he does is to better himself and draw attention. He just keeps buying out other decentralized projects and takes them over.
These are exactly 100% my thoughts as well. Thanks for saving me time :-)
So much food for thought in this reply and the replies to it. This is what I love about the Blockchain Community...the discussion on a topic, listen to all sides, and as an individual walk away with an understanding of the topic in which an individual may draw their own conclusion.
I see the airdrop as an entitlement, and the basis of entitlements generally revolve around the concept of social equality. By excluding a handful because of how they chose to vote, we not only undermined the sanctity of the vote but also disenfranchised those individuals. If we shift and say the airdrop was not an entitlement, but rather a "gift," then it ends up looking like a payoff for those who voted "correctly."
Ultimately, because of the nature of reality, those with money will seek power. Is it right to take people's money away? Generally, the answer to this question is no. But what if they are going to use their money to destroy or monopolize a public resource? Right there, you're getting into the antitrust type of laws. Bill gates got wrecked with that, and that didn't even stop him from seeking ultimate power and control.
The problem of the wealthy putting their boots on the neck of the poor is age-old, but it doesn't justify a mass culling of people based on their political ideologies. I think if those people got mirrored here on HIVE and saw that their token had a higher value than Steem, it would behoove them to retain and celebrate their stake.
They could have what in their eyes is the best of both worlds, a blockchain run by Sun and a token of a higher value run by a community. The competition between the two chains will result in a winner and a loser. The Stakeholders will be inclined to side with, or at the very least, not be in opposition to the victor.
Excluding Sun and his socks was reasonable, all things considered. Taking an additional 300 out based on arbitrary metrics was overkill. Now, they're in this guilty until proven innocent limbo and are forced to beg the community for inclusion. I wouldn't do it. I'd rather eat my shoe.
You've also got to consider that some of the consensus-of-stake may have been intentionally voting in such a way as to stop both parties from doing any more stupid shit.
Greeting the largest stakeholder with an immediate asset freeze right after a multimillion-dollar purchase was the first mistake as far as I'm concerned. If we assume the largest stakeholder is a threat, where does it end? There will always be a largest stakeholder. I think the community should have put him on notice in a public post that if he attempts to fork with astroturf witnesses, the chain will split.
The key point being they have to ask for Hivepower, not to ask for being part of the Hive blockchain. Their account exists on the chain and has the usual 3 Hive delegated to it so it can perform a few functions per day.
Right, so, their balance was censored on the mirrored accounts. However, they have the option of throwing themselves at the mercy of stakeholders who didn't vote outside of "the party."
It wasn't just because people voted for Justin's witness.
Justin could have run one witness node, and people were more than free to vote for it if they thought that his ideas were good for Steem.
However, he did NOT start one witness node ... instead he started 20 of them! And then he voted for all 20 of his own nodes with stake that was never meant to be voted with in the first place. He even used Exchange staked to vote in all 20 of his puppet accounts, which is wrong on so many levels.
Then he forced out ALL 20 of the witnesses that we, the people, had chosen to represent us on Steem.
A single individual is NOT allowed to run multiple Witness accounts, let alone use Steemit Inc and Exchange power to vote in even 1 real Witness let alone 19 Fake Witnesses; pushing out EVERYBODY that the Steem community democratically chose.
So nobody should have voted for Justin Sun's puppet Witnesses after all that he did. Yet nobody had HIVE withheld if they had only voted for one of Justin's accounts. People were still free to choose to vote for such a disgusting dictator. However, the people who voted in several of his Witness nodes (when only one vote per witness has ever been allowed) were not given the gift of HIVE tokens.
Everything that Justin did absolutely disgusted me,
so I completely understand why the majority voted not to have HIVE given to those who willingly decided to be Justin's "Flying Monkeys" while he paints himself as a victim; when in fact Justin was the perpetrator of great evil on our community.