Richard - Why do you put so much stock in the "bible codes"?

I would agree - if these codes showed up in the pure writings of people, at the time, chronicling events they witnessed - that is literally an act of God. It would be irrefutable proof, the odds would be astronomical. I'd pack up, move to Baja tomorrow, and become a faithful follower of Lord Rayel and try to win others to him. No joke.

But how do you still believe the odds you cite while completing ignoring the evidence of tampering?

For instance:

1 - Numbers 12:3
“Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth.”

If Moses is not the author, the books are without credit; if he was, Moses is without credit because to boast of his own meekness is arrogant, and is a lie in sentiment. Do you really believe Moses wrote that about himself? If not - can you tell me who did and who had the proper knowledge to even discern if Moses was the most humble man on the entire planet?

2 - Deuteronomy 34:5-6
“And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. 6 He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is.”

If Moses is the author, how could he himself tell where he was buried? If “no one knows where his grave is”, how did Moses know that Moses was “buried in a valley opposite Beth Peor in Moab”? If Moses is not the author, who is? Who added this in, at what time was it added, and for what reason?

3 - Genesis 14:14
“When Abram heard that his relative had been taken captive, he called out the 318 trained men born in his household and went in pursuit as far as Dan.”

How could Moses write of Abram’s march to Dan on account of Lot being taken, when "Dan" wasn’t named as a place until after the death of Samson?

Judges 18:27-29
“Then they took what Micah had made, and his priest, and went on to Laish, against a people at peace and secure. They attacked them with the sword and burned down their city. 28 There was no one to rescue them because they lived a long way from Sidon and had no relationship with anyone else. The city was in a valley near Beth Rehob. The Danites rebuilt the city and settled there. 29 They named it Dan after their ancestor Dan, who was born to Israel—though the city used to be called Laish.”

Samson is said to have died 1120 B.C., Moses said to have died 1451 B.C.; the place called Laish was not called “Dan” until 331 years after the death of Moses and 20 years after Joshua’s death. If Moses is not the author, who wrote this, when was it added in, and for what reason?

4 - Genesis 36:31
"And these are the kings that reigned in the land of Edom, before there reigned any king over the children of Israel."

This verse could only have been written after the first king began to reign over the children of Israel; and, consequently, the book of Genesis therefore could not have been written till the time of Saul at least, long after Moses was dead. The remaining verses of the 36th chapter of Genesis, are word for word in the first chapter of I Chronicles . Who wrote this, when was it added, and for what reason?

5 - Exodus 16:35
"And the children of Israel did eat manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited; they did eat manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.”

Moses died in the wilderness of Moab and never came upon the borders of the land of Canaan; and consequently it could not be Moses that said what the children of Israel did, or what they ate, when they came there. This account of eating manna, which they tell us was written by Moses, extends itself to the time of Joshua, the successor of Moses; as appears by the account given in Joshua after the children of Israel had passed the river Jordan, and came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.

Joshua 5:12
"And the manna ceased on the morrow after they had eaten of the old corn of the land; neither had the children of Israel manna any more; but they did eat of the fruit of the land of Canaan that year.”

Who added this in, what time, and for what reason?

6 - Deuteronomy 3:11
“For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.”

It could not be Moses that said this, because Moses could know nothing about Rabbah, nor of what was in it. Rabbah was not a city belonging to this giant king, nor was it one of the cities that Moses took. The knowledge, therefore, that this bed was at Rabbah, and of the particulars of its dimensions, must be referred to the time when Rabbah was taken, and this was not till four hundred years after the death of Moses;

2 Samuel 12:26
“And Joab fought against Rabbah of the children of Ammon, and took the royal city.”

Who added this information in well after the fact? For what reason?

7 - Joshua 24:31
“And Israel served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that overlived Joshua, and which had known all the works of the Lord, that he had done for Israel.”

Now, in the name of common sense, can it be Joshua that relates what people had done after he was dead? This account must not only have been written by some historian that lived after Joshua, but that lived also after the elders that “overlived” Joshua. Why was it added in? For what reason?

8 - II Samuel 1:1
“Now it came to pass after the death of Saul, when David was returned from the slaughter of the Amalekites, and David had abode two days in Ziklag;...”

The second book of Samuel begins with an account of things that did not happen until four years after Samuel was dead; for it begins with the reign of David, who succeeded Saul, and it goes on to the end of David's reign, which was forty-three years after the death of Samuel; and, therefore, the books are in themselves positive evidence that they were not written by Samuel. Who wrote them, why were they added, for what reason?

Qui Bono? Who benefits? Why would the Torah be obviously tampered with from any original writings, by whoever compiled it, to introduce ELS codes? For what reason?

Can you honestly tell me?