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RE: The Future of Steemit

in #steemit6 years ago

Why would he do this @rawdawg? He's working within the rules to maximise his profit. Why earn $2,000 per day when he can earn $20,000. There is no incentive for him to do this. We operate in an anarchic ecosystem where people can do whatever they like as long as they are comfortable with the results that flow from the algorithm. I would suggest that @haejin is very comfortable with his outcomes currently.

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Does his daily whining indicate his high comfort level to you?

There is also no incentive for people to stop flagging him at this point ... cuz ... they're "working within the rules to minimize his profit". ;)

Arguably, using the flag to flag content that is valid and not "abuse" isn't "within the rules". Especially if witnesses are doing it.

How do you feel about @haejin removing all post rewards from the Largest Cryptocurrency Freeroll Poker Site in the World which is funded by posts on the Steem blockchain?

haejin just killed one of the largest and most successful Steemit communities and yet, no outcry from his 7,000 followers.



Why? Because we did not agree with his large daily sum of the reward pool and were simply trying to protect our and other projects who do contribute positively to the Steemit Community and who do help support other legitimate projects within the Community and who are TRUE #community-builders and not destroyers like @haejin's recent actions make him appear to be.

I am a cryptocurrency trader, I see no value in his post for me personally. If my downvotes on some of his overly rewarded post cost him $1 each, @haejin should realize all that happened with my flag was he donated a tiny portion of $1 to every other Steemian that posted that day.

But for @haejin to then turn around and take ALL of the Steem Poker Leagues post payouts for simply trying to return $1 back to the Steemit Community as a whole, then I guess ...

haejin is showing everyone on Steemit what kind of person he really is.


IMHO, @haejin is a very selfish person to think that each of his post deserves more than an entire projects weekly rewards.

I am powering down because of it. Tired of wasting time, I am going to take my 200 steem and go home

His one post makes more then I did in 1000 hours of being on steem . Pretty sad

How did he "remove" them?

And if this is a platform flaw... shouldn't a platform fix be the solution?

Seems like a simple adjustment to set a maximum on the amount of the reward pool any one person could pull.

I think your comments are a symptom of his supporters not understanding how Steem/Steemit work. ;)

Keep in mind, I'd never even heard of this guy until I saw this post. Now I try to snipe an upvote in before he does, so his self-vote will pay me nicely. Glad the OP made this tip thread.

So wait, while you had a responsibility to this poker community you built you decided to get involved in a flag war with someone with substantial SP, and are somehow shocked that he responded by fucking up your community project?

Perhaps you're the one who doesn't understand how things work... you expected zero retaliation when you started taking money out of someone's pocket with your primary account?

Actually, I know @secondstar personally. He's cool.

I think your comments are of symptom of a socialist getting on a site created by a libertarian, then telling everyone else they don't know how it works.

Shots fired!

They don't care because he makes them money. If U make ppl money ppl will follow and reward u and u can do what u accuse him of.

I disagree, he shares his data with everyone, even those who downvote his posts. He has helped people break the cycle of poverty and pay off their mortgages and add much needed revenue. Thats why he is so well liked. His investment strategies and methods are 90% accurate. This is why the whale is defending him, as having his content on this platform adds actual monetary value for those new to the world of crypto. Many are simply jealous of his success and his ability to forecast trends in the altcoin market, plain and simple. If you want to earn more money or altcoin or increase your investment portfolio- just listen to his advice- it will cost you nothing but a few minutes to read his posts- if they havent been flagged by wall street backed, self appointed "bitcoin gurus" with no prior track record, who charge over $2,500 to name a few altcoins.

Opinions vary. He certainly has exponentialy more followers and supports than you do. Lets see you dispute that. You seem a bit jealous of his success- Traits not common in one who refers to himself as an Introvert.

The number one reason to flag content is disagreement on rewards. Below are the listed reasons for flagging. Click on the flag and you will see for yourself. Thanks,

Flagging a post can remove rewards and make this material less visible. Some common reasons to flag

Disagreement on rewards
Fraud or Plagiarism
Hate Speech or Internet Trolling
Intentional miss-categorized content or Spam

I see that. Have to say I disagree with lumping a simple "downvote" in with a "flag".... they're two very different things.

Actually, they aren't

In most platforms, they are. Flagging a thing is flagging it... usually some sort of inappropriate content/spam/kiddie porn/racism/threats/etc. The idea of flagging is it raises awareness on a method of filtering content. Be it a manual admin, or an automated system like we have here where it actually hides the content from people/feeds/etc.

A downvote is "I didn't like your content or have a differing opinion." Not "your content is abusive and should be removed."

In the white paper disagreement on rewards isn't even mentioned

I concord with you dear

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If you want to flag people... how about focusing on the spam bots like that ^

I agree bots are a huge issue, but that bot isn't making any $$$, which is what people are upset about.

True. People certainly like to get mad over someone else making money instead of them more than over actually making sure the platform isn't just a shitshow of spam trash no one wants to use.

You don't have any money at stake. @haejin, if he's taking 5% of the rewards, isn't changing your rewards at all. Nada. Zip.

You and the 50k other minnows, like me, share 1% of the rewards.

Which whales get the 99% doesn't matter to us at all.

I love Steemit but the facts you point out are depressing to me. Steemit is just a reflection of what is happening in the real world (ie. most of the money and resources going to the top 1%).
There are some high stakeholders who want things to be different with @berniesanders being one in my opinion but until more of the 1% richest Steemians stop enjoying earning more rewards in a day than me or you earn in a month or more, nothing much will change. The price of Steem rising the way it is will only make things worse. Sure, we'll see more users joining Steemit in the short term but how long will they still around when they are earning $0.01 average post? Ok, so people might say, "Well $0.01 is better than nothing on Wordpress" but to me that isn't the point.

You are exactly correct. No one should be pleased about the status quo on Steemit. Neither whales, who must be giddy regarding the current price of Steem, nor minnows facing dismal rewards.

I but hope that the present price of Steem encourage whales to see the reality that capital gains are their best means of attaining profit from their investments, because that will convince them to join me in calling for dispersing at least 30% of the rewards pool to minnows, as the white paper intended.

Even a tenfold improvement in median rewards is likely to be insufficient.

Thanks!

I love the point. I'm like 6 days old at Steemit and I'm still observing. I mean, yes, no one owes an upvote to anybody. But who are we kidding when we say we are on steemit just to blog and talk about random stuff? C'mon, weren't we all interested at first because we know we could earn? And if we aren't earning a penny, why should we stay? (That kind of concept.)

Berniesanders is only concerned with maintaining his power on the site by limiting content creators from becoming whales. He would rather have control of a small pie than have a nice size piece of a huge pie.

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Why earn $2,000 per day when he can earn $20,000

You can shear a sheep many times, but skin it only one - Amarillo Slim

oh no please leave the sheep alone!

I was asking @haejin to answer. Do you have the authority to speak for the man. The preservation of Steem as a community is most sustainable if everyone works together for the benefit of all. Just like a real community without a governing body would operate. This is a lofty goal as personal rewards are involved and human nature is to be greedy for ones own personal gain so maybe the experiment will fail. It most certainly would fail if 50-100 more people were behaving in this manner.

Well, if everyone is gonna share nice, then this should change, right?authorrewardchart.png

All for one, one for all!

Well, not according to rewards.

Where's Waldo... err Uh I mean haejin?

it s already hard enough to find a chart on a specific coin he put out 10 days ago it would be near impossible if everything was under one post each day.

It would be easier. Go to the post from 10 days ago, look for that coin. All in one post. Let your browser do that search. As long as steemit has no working search function

From anarchy to a community of anarchists with a leader who is also an anarchist haha.

I was not answering for him. I don’t even know him. I was simply posing a question in response to your comment.

In response to the additional point you raised, this is exactly how a community without a governing body would operate. It’s called anarchism. The idealised society that wish to create doesn’t exist. Steemit is proof of that.

It’s true! If we all behave this way, will the people currently doing it still feel it’s justifies?

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