Do ya'll have any idea how hard it is to get monetized out there?
Just in case you've been tunnelvisioning hive too much lately and have forgotten, figured I'd mention and remind people how things are out there compared to Hive which once after you overcome the current potential hurdle of creating a hive account - you can instantly start monetizing your activity here.
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Now of course monetization on hive is not the same as adrevenue earnings on youtube, Instagram, facebook, tiktok, X, etc. They're only sharing with you a percentage they get from advertisers.
Here you're earning 50% stablecoin $ and 50% staked stake in the blockchain, if the ecosystem is doing well, so will your rewards. People buying and staying staked in the ecosystem are the ones making rewards possible for you, not advertisers, not a small portion of "profits" the blockchain might be making - you're diluting investors of their value so you better bring something to make up for it.
Anyway, let's take a look after a month's worth of Youtube activity trying to get monetized. Before I show some stats, keep in mind I'm kind of a "somebody" on Hive, I'm active all the time, I run quite a few projects and am involved in many, so I'm fully and well aware that this may give me an edge in starting out on youtube similar to how it may have done on X in terms of followers and attention. I'm not saying this to brag but keep in mind for others trying to get monetized it may be a lot harder - even though it's not going to be easy for me either.
Views and Watch time (hours); this is some of the things that matter on the road to becoming monetized on youtube.
As you can see, my watch time is doing quite well lately as I've been streaming more over creating videos. Streams last longer so it's enough to have a few active viewers and you may get quite a nice amount of watch time and according to some searches both live streams and views on the video of the livestreams count towards your total watch time. Compared to say making a 15-25min video and getting 100-200 views on it with many not watching the full video, it's going to result in a lot less watch time usually.
Here's a comparison to the videos/vods/shorts with most views and their watch time (keep in mind shorts views+watch time don't count towards monetization):
Now some things to keep in mind, I'm still "starting out", I won't be committing too much time/resources/attentiont towards youtube as the end-goal here is not to get monetized and earn a few cents from adrevenue but to get a bigger reach to bring new users and traffic towards hive. In general also maybe to connect with hivers on a different level through live stream chat discussions, etc.
Alright, so how close am I to getting monetized after 1 month of videos + livestreams + a few shorts?
There's 2 levels to monetization, first one is to allow people to subscribe through memberships to you, meaning they'll pay like $2/month with youtube taking 30% or 50% of it. This then allows you to create different roles/levels for your viewers, it also allows viewers to drop "superchats" where they pay to write a message that may be visible in the chat longer, etc.
Although this data may be up to a week delayed (it mentions that in the [i] button), this means that I'm still 339 subscribers and 2835 watch time hours away from even being considered for this type of monetization (not yet adrevenue).
For adrevenue, it looks like this:
So yeah, quite some time and energy and effort away from that. Basically if I were to stream/upload a video every day, I'd need people to watch at least 10 hours worth of it on average just to hit the lower threshold of watch hours to get monetized. I don't even dare getting into how little adrevenue that'd be after crossing that line and getting 10 watch hours per day. Okay I do dare, after a little searching I stumbled upon this comment from a year ago:
I don't think many of you are ready in the ways hive rewards can scale given things start picking up and we start getting users and attention. Given that adrevenue can be a small little icing on the cake on top of it all.
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I often share my videos on Hive where they can get a few upvotes. 3Speak is unreliable.
Personally I have found more success with a decently written and curated post that any of the above methods.
YouTube monetisation is a slog, but I understand why those requirements are there.
Might be worth adding multistreaming, just for 2 channels so for example
YouTube and twitch
as soon as you are alifiate on twitch you earn from having people in your stream with the ads they watch when not subbed,
you can use the clips option on twitch and download clips you get for YouTube shorts which will help your sub count there as a lot more people watch shorts then full vids
hope this helps :D
appreciate it yeah, as I said in another comment here I already have a monetized twitch account (altho haven't streamed in many, many years so not sure if it still is), but will get the multistream option on streamlabs going to stream on more places.
When I joined Hive it was not difficult to sign up. I am not sure what kind of difficulties people encounter now. Anyways, Hive's monetization is friendly, we all know.
I knew YouTube monetization was cumbersome but didn't have idea that it is that much complicated.
I have heard of shadow bans on YouTube as well. Perhaps algorithm decides it 🤔.
I have seen people considering YouTube earning a piece of cake, but the reality is otherwise
Actually for doing this like a month of so I guess these kind of stats are not bad at all. Sure Youtube is one of the biggest places of video worth but getting an algo to catch you is really the challenge, but this really something already. Yeah very interesting on when the rewards actually start feels like miles away.
I don't have a clue if this is true, but it feels like having a twitch channel with some decent followers might even be more rewarding? (and yeah, Hive instantly giving without these kinds of tresholds is really something unique!)
Don't give up on youtube though, Im curious how this will proceed!
Thanks! I actually already have a monetized twitch channel and will probably be dual streaming as streamlabs makes that possible for a small fee of 30$/month xd
Yea i followed an Italian YouTuber he always complained gains on there are riducolous and he used to do 300-500k views per video... If you want to monetize out of live videos, the best way it twitch, people can premium subscribe to you for free if they have an Amazon prime account, also should reward more... I know your point is not monetize, I wonder if twitch could give more visibility?
Yeah will check into using both here in the near future!
My son has a YouTube channel he reached monetize status after about a year. He seems to be on hiatus right now, the earnings there don't inspire him much :)
He has 2.53k subscribers and 267 videos...
That's a great start!
I've been going at youtube for a couple of years and still not monetised, although arguably I have been inconsistent and play niche games.
Good luck, you'll get there soon enough!
I've heard if making money on YouTube is your top priority then it's all about the popular niches and posting shorter clips on TikTok as well to drive more people to your YouTube account. I had considered pouring time and energy into developing a travel channel at one point until I discovered what a grind it really is. The algorithms encourage more and more risky/extreme behavior too. I think this is why you see so many travel YouTubers traveling to more unsafe/obscure places and doing extreme activities like multi-day marathons and such. I still haven't given up on the idea but YouTube is flooded with travel channels now. You have one new subscriber now. : )
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I can feel the struggle, but I can also think about YouTune not being 100% honest with us with those stats. I track my stats with vidIQ as well, and I got notified that I reached 3k hours of watch time in September last year, but guess what? YouTube was always showing either 2,6k or 2,7k hours of watch time ever since. I should already be monetised by now, isn't it? Funny thing is that I am now up to 6k hours of watch time based on vidIQ stats, but YT is still showing 2,7k, ugh!
Makes me feel that you really have to get a big boost on your channel, whether in number of views or watch hours (maybe 10 time what you get usually) to force YouTube show the real stats, which sucks, really!
I'll be interested in following along with this as eventually I'm going to attempt the same. I did some researching some months back and this is what I found out. (1) watch hours from youtube promotions won't count towards your watch hours for monetization (some found a way around this but might be patched by this time). (2) even if the hours don't count when using youtube promotions it seems as doing so will likely earn followers. (3) As you pointed out, the rate youtubers earn can vary and can be less than $1/1000 views. (4) I read that the niche you are in plays a factor in pay scale. (5) Someone can make a claim to your uploaded content and if youtube sides with them they will earn a portion of your profits from the upload they made the infringement claim on. (6) I also discovered that one can purchase already monetized channels from third party sites. Cost depends on multiple factors. Some aren't that badly priced but such ones usually come with a youtube warning attached to them for past grievances. I wouldn't go this route but I thought it an interesting note.
I've had a youtube account for more than a decade at this point. I've never even considered the possibility that it would ever make me a penny. You are already doing ten times better than I ever did.
In your case you getting monetized is completely possible, and I don't think it would take more than a few more months. However, your point stands.
People here tend to get entitled very quickly. I saw a post a little while ago of someone upset about how posting on Hive was not a good business for them. They claimed the cost in materials and time of making posts, made it untenable. (imagine that)
Anyways... this is a good mirror for people to look at.
lol that reminds me way back of someone getting overrewarded through some kind of guaranteed votes by a certain whale saying that the rewards don't cover the fuel cost to generate the photography content anymore.
Amazing!!
lol
Hive's instant monetization is a huge leg up! 👍 Glad you're highlighting the difference. Love the Sora Miu pic! 😂
I'm about to embark on a similar journey except my content will be about cybersecurity, I haven't started yet but I'm looking forward to getting stuck in.
Best of luck, post when you start!
Youtube is a challenge. Content there is saturated so you have to be in the right niches to break out beyond a certain point, and the algorithm rewards quantity over quality.
As far as I'm concerned, it was impossible to monetize from YouTube. I think I was the first to use it in my small town where I live. In the last 2 years I have exclusively inserted my videos on 3Speak and I don't understand why many Italians still use platforms like YouTube to share videos and not decentralized platforms like HIVE can offer. !ALIVE
Anyone seeking to monetize their YouTube would really have to be prepared for all the hassle. It’s not an easy job at all. Alot of people give up on th rest. I don’t know if I have the energy for that. I try to subscribe to some of my friends channels to help them build but monitoring on hive is way easier like you said. I have already subscribed to your channel. Your doing good for a start
Hive is much easier to be monetized than Youtube. In Youtube you need to gain more subscribers and you need to post videos from time to time. Maybe, it's a little bit hassle for me.
You have really good progress. Live Streaming for like 4 hours of gameplay is huge help getting those needed hours.
Yes, I am aware of this because I was a content creator on Youtube for a while. Think of it like this, you are a well-known person on Hive, so you have a small audience (for Youtube monetization) on Youtube instead of starting from scratch.
I hope you can get there as soon as possible, but I think this can be done mostly through shorts now. A few quality shorts can get thousands of views.
xD
I mentioned that I'd have an easier time to get going there cause of my hive presence in the post, also that shorts don't count towards getting monetized, unless you can get to 3-10 million views.
I read the post and I know what you're talking about, I said it for you to imagine someone starting from scratch, when I started I only had a few friends who clicked (not watched) my videos xd It took me about a year to reach a few hundred subscribers.
And what I'm talking about is that those videos can be watched by millions. Some channels on Youtube only make “funny and ridiculous” game edits and shorts easily get 500.000 views. People use Youtube shorts like instagram reels or tiktok now. They keep scrolling 😂
I subscribed to you on YouTube from my shelter account. I hope it helps you to reach your goal at least a little bit
Appreciate it!
Your post gives some good insight on how hard it is to achieve monetization on web 2 platforms like YouTube. It's way easier on hive and your post makes me appreciate that more. I love how you're on YouTube not purely for the ad revenue but to drive traffic to Hive. I hope you succeed.
Those are really decent stats especially that what you creating it's some niche. You tube it's hard business tbh, creating content, recording and uploading takes hell of the time but if you do it anyway just because you feel like then it make sense to carry on as long as it makes you happy.
There was a really good story on the news this past weekend about YouTube. It was quite interesting. I know it is very hard to get monetized. @raymondspeaks has been working at it for a while now. You definitely have to find that niche!
This is a great comparison! It's easy to forget how much harder it is to monetize on other platforms. Hive's approach is definitely more rewarding for creators.
it takes time and quality content to raise numbers
That's right like getting you here can immediately monetize it. On Youtube I have also made it very much developmental even I Down on YouTube there is no development
It's not that easy getting monetization on YouTube but if you work hard and patiently, success will come. So best of luck with your YouTube channel. 💗
Monetizing pages on other social platforms like YouTube and Facebook isn't that easy
I know the struggle of getting monetized very well since I'm doing YouTube too. I'm making cinematic/vlogging-style outdoors videos of hiking or cooking outside. Been doing it for 5 months now and have 13 videos.
6 of them over 1k views, one over 10k views. I have accumulated 1300 watch hours and 180 subscribers. Still a lot to go to get monetized and it's not easy.
My videos take a lot of time to film and to edit so it's also pretty hard to stay consistent while also working full-time and trying to balance other things in life. But I do my best!
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Hola cómo estás yo tengo un canal de Youtube llevo tres meses ya llevo un millón de vistas y 900 suscriptores pero lo hice con un inteligencia artificial me puedo suscribir a tu canal pero también te suscribes al mío jeje