When you can stop pushing tin hattery... I dont owe more "substance" when you don't care about facts and science in the first place and cherry pick, misquote, spread disinfo. I also pointed out issues already that you are welcome to actually deal with. I dont need to do your research, but you should actually do legit research and stop spreading disinfo while you pretend you should be offering medical advice. ANYONE who gets medical advice from you are anyother social media pundit needs to get a grip. But hey, you found two pages that dont even take into consideration the many factors also involved in the very issue it tries to dicuss. But hey, you got a faulty study...sorry, another faulty study to scapegoat and give yourself an excuse ...
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To be very clear, this data says to get vaccinated. If you actually read the entire thing.And to wash your fucking hands, social distance, etc. It is very clear that vaccines work against covid deaths and severe hospitalization. Its like vaccines work and this study doesnt take enough data into consideration in the first place.
Dr Peter Mccullough isn't anti vax, he's actually pro vaccine, even says he has nothing against these vaccines, they work for a lot of people....what he does have a problem with is the short amount of time spent on studies and the one shoe fits all approach to mass vaccination. They are ignoring an incredible amount of deaths linked to these vaccines. There isn't a medicine on the market, over the counter or behind the counter that doesn't come with a warning label as to why they shouldn't be taken by certain people. What he argues is we've done reach the threshold, actually gone way beyond the threshold required to have a medicine pulled off the market. Many medicines have been pulled for much less. They need to pull the vaccines and get their ducks in a row first. They need to determine which parts of the global population is okay to have these vaccines and which parts of the population will suffer harm and death from these vaccines. The quota to pull has been met plus some, it's time to stop the carnage going on.
The paper that is being represented is not by this person. S. V. Subramaniancorresponding and Akhil Kumar wrote it. Never said they were antivaxx. I see nothing that shows me this OP was written by a doctor or this person. They have determined long ago the % at risk, which is extremely small. Maybe look for the data.... instead of grasping the question without actually learning. The OP is clearly antivax and time and time again shows it in their account. Vaccines will stop this "carnage". Thats the point. Anyone saying "im not antivaxx" and they push antivaxx conspiracies/disinfo, like how you think we dont know the risks and the % of said risks are low. As for McCullough, he literally that, pretend he isnt against vaccines then pushes false infomation and bullshit remedies, like hydroxychlorquine. Saying he isnt antivaxx is liek saying some one isnt racist but then pushes some racist theories.
https://factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiologist-makes-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccination
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/vaccines-are-a-safer-alternative-for-acquiring-immunity-compared-to-natural-infection-and-covid-19-survivors-benefit-from-getting-vaccinated-contrary-to-claims-by-peter-mccullough/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/right-wing-vaccine-rebellion-on-campus
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/vaccines-remain-largely-effective-against-delta-variant-counter-to-claims-from-fox-news-guest/
Just a sample of how he misleads and spread dangerous disinfo.
McCullough is a hack. He fired for spreading the disinfo he has spread. Vaccines are safe. If you feel unsure maybe go speak with an actual professional on the subject? McCullough being a doctor of one thing wouldnt even make him an expert in the subject, plus all the many times he has show to push half assed research and up right falsities. Alt facts arent facts.
The ducks are in a row just fine.
What they are peddling simply isn't true. There's no way you can explain away a higher death rate this year with a vaccine than last year without having a vaccine. Common sense kicks in at some point. You simply can't vaccinated the whole global population in a one shoe fits all fashion, medicine doesn't work like that.
And, there is not a one size fits all vaccine. So also learn what difference vaccines they have developed before making another very false claim. You saying "you cant' doesn't make it not true. You not believing in the massive amounts of science, data, reality, since you can't wrap you head around it, doesn't make right. Thank for playing debate the tin hat. Glad I actually offered something while you just kept saying "no".
And, if you did some basic fucking math and science you'd answer your own questions. Maybe take your research outside the conspiracy theory Qcultist box and find some real information.
Lol.... Whats next you're going to say "Fake news". READ THE reseach before you even speak about it. It literally says vaccines arent the only lane to this issue. The actual research, not the spun bs from the fired tin hat. Then, read the piles and piles of data that answers more. Common sense does not equal willful ignorance (like what you seem to be doing by refusing to actually read data).
So you know, I dont think you are anyone should be forced to take a vaccine. Others should work to still assist those who are hestiant like we assist those who just cant (for whatever reason). You may not be able to go to a big event as soon, but you always deserve food, shelter, and all those good things. If you dont want the vaccine, dont take it, but also dont get upset when you are still asked to wear a mask or keep more distance from me when speaking (more so while indoors). You cant work? I believe we should insure you can still eat, sleep, keep your residence. I am ok with "mandates" for testing or a vaccine for events or other things for now, but I sure wouldnt be ok without exiling you, like I think many who are hestiant feel. If you are being an out right ass hole about it, I don't hate you for it. I do hate people purposefully spreading disinfo, like the OP and the doctor you bring up. But so you know, I think you should take the vaccine if you are physicallay able to and if you're unsure speak to your actual doctor about it and those who specialize in the particular medical field, not the internet. I'm not going to tell you to fuck off if you were to shop at my store and not be vaccinated, I'd tell you and everyone else to wear a mask for the time being while indoors. We for sure need free fast testing if we are going to have any mandates for negative tests. Many events or locations do have this but I am still seeing many miss the mark.
So what you are saying is that it would be okay for someone not to be vaccinated to come into your store and shop but you want them vaccinated if they are doing to a big event, so making a profit off the unvaccinated is okay but not sitting near them? Is that people should lose their jobs if they provide for them to keep food, shelter, etc., or you are not in favor of them losing their jobs? Since the vaccinated are more contagious if they catch the delta variant shouldn't they also have restrictions against them?