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Well, aside from misrepresenting the question (I still have two more, about which we will soon formally debate!) and once again asserting that we questioners are “trolls,” I guess you kinda sorta addressed...something?
Nobody was saying “You can’t do that because the constitution is valid/authoritative!” (I see what you did there in twisting that, though, clever). What both myself, Rose, and others are repeatedly pointing out is that your plan to use the system to end the system is illogical unless your side is the system.
I can’t wait to debate. I’ll email the proposed resolution tonight, but have already made a post about it if you’d like to check it out.
Glad to see you’ve stopped wasting the delegated Steem you have and draining the rewards pool with one hundred dollar comment self-upvotes.
Also glad to see you conveniently didn’t mention calling people “cowards,” “trolls,” and “annoying and ignorant” when talking about how things also get heated here on Steemit.
Looking forward to the debate. Nice title, by the way ;)
Yesssssssss..... Yes, so many times to all of this! 🙏 Keep up the fight ✌️💚🤘
The flag is for the constant anarchy tag-strangling, delegated SP 80 - 100 dollar self-upvotes. Nothing personal, just not good for the platform in this one market actor’s opinion.
@kafkanarchy84 - did this debate ever take place?
Yes!
I agree with you @adamkokesh, since we have checks and balances those puppet in legislative and judiciary would be hard to deal with, we need absolute peoples power to end the fed.
Yes.
Yes please.
Well said.
Thanks Adam. I really enjoyed this video after all the drama I got roped into lately. Your arguments seem pretty clear and straightforward to me and you seem open to correction and improvements, which to me is key. Ideology isn't going to improve the world. It takes applied moral principles.
I agree, amazing discussion with Cynthia McKinney at Anarchapulco btw!! Hopefully we will be free someday.
Yes....... from me, now and always, someone else can't do that for me.
Applying moral principles doesn't involve utilizing immoral, unprincipled systems.
sorry sorry it was by mistake, my apologies
Fuck bro hard to believe ur still alive with the shit your doing!
Major respect!
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@adamkokesh I belive we can end the FED with an executive order, their days are number, we are tired of all the opperession by the FED. Also, you should really look out for people who say they love freedom but spend a lot of effort shitting on other people's activism.
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Since the creation of the federal reserve... the USD has been in a constant inflation. USD has lost over 98% of its value. From $20 an ounce when gold was redeemable with fiat to now...$1300 plus an ounce. You can’t trade your fiats for gold in banks. People who hold gold are call “hoarders .”
President can make an executive order... but any who try will kiss his/her life goodbye. Just ask JFK... Bernie Sanders was anti fed... you think he has any chance to be elected?
No chance one person can get rid of the federal reserve. It will take a revolution.
I support ending the fed!
It takes great men to start freedom takes talk and from seeing you, you are a perfect march of such great men.
And for me, you have all my support honestly speaking. Go you are the man
great Video ever, thanks for sharing
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As I see it ENDing the FED reserve system is the single biggest leg of the globalist control system. Starve the system of its funding and it will inevitably loose its power. I also believe that removing the protection of the country from their control by ENDing the military industrial complex is another key leg. With that said I don't know how to go about that outside of ending the FED system. I would like to hear what others think? What also comes to mind is how the Military Industrial Complex may try to utilize the crypto system to gain funding? If they are not already trying.
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The military is funded through fiat central banking. Decentralize yourself and encourage others to do so and it will collapse.
I don't think there is a scenario where they end it voluntarily, quite the opposite, I think they will try to drag everyone into the abyss to keep it going for as long as possible. A large piece of their jigsaw that's about to be removed is the Petro-dollar.
There is a very similar story to the one being played out today, 100 years ago there was an Empire overstretched due to wars and in economic decline, still holding onto world reserve status but eventually ditching the gold standard and becoming a debtor nation to keep going. Then there was a rising economic power who overtakes the largest world economy, becomes the largest creditor nation and largest holder of gold. Those in control simply transferred 'status' to friendly soil.
The big difference today is those same people in charge are being challenged by a new cabal. Pressure is really starting to ramp up on the USD and it's status. It is being starved by all nations of the world who have borne the brunt from the FEDs instruments of economic suppression or militaristic aggression. There is now an alternative that can't be sanctioned or bombed away.
So I think going forward, as nations leave the USD for the Yuan, the FED will ultimately collapse on itself in stages, I don't see this happening immediately, I think it will be a long drawn out process where we have a bi-polar monetary system as the two battle each other, the old and sick vs the young and healthy. How this will effect everyday people living in the West depends on a multitude of different scenarios playing out where cryptocurrency will play a pivotal role.
great thing man be strong, you can do whetevr you want, all support.
Freedom is the only way to more peaceful means. We will support ending the Fed.
@adamkokesh yeah man you can do anything man :) keep your thinking high....
Solid plan supported by John Locke's philosophy. Not that it matters but still fun that it fits. For those that do not know that was the primary influence on pretty much ALL of the founders. Nicely explained brother!
Assuming centtralized ownership of vast swathes of unhomesteaded land via political edict is not supported by Locke’s philosophy.
Right that is the point of my comment. Did you watch the video? Adam plan is to localizing and decentralize.
Yes I watched the video. He plans to assume control and authority via a collectivist process (electoral process) that is illegimate according to libertarian/voluntaryist property ethic.
He will then centrally plan the redistribution of lands and resources not based on libertarian/voluntaryist property ethic (unhomesteaded lands cannot be claimed from miles away), and will assign the ownership of these lands via his inner circle of “custodians” to non-profit organizations.
Those already using the lands, or paying he most for them, or having most direct provable link to the land will be forced to follow the plan of Kokesh and his “custodians” instead of the logical, rational, and individual self-ownership-respecting natural law of the libertarian property ethic.
Are you sure you watched the video? To repeat what Adam said in the video, because you either did not watch it or are intentionally being ignorant of the facts, "the American people will have elected to not have a federal government" therefore if he or anyone else tried to take control the People will rise against them. This is ecactly what Locke talks about in his books on government. Locke talks about removing consent and moving either back to a community or to a natural state. Again, watch the video.
Besides if you really want a stateless society, what is your alternative? I and I am sure Adam would love to hear your proposal.
I disagree with the method for reducing government that people like Rand Paul or Thomas Massie are employing in the Gop. I think that it will fail, but I applaud their willingness to try an approach. We, it is my belief, are working to the same ends. Intread of attacking our allies, I would rather fine tune my way. "It is hard to light a candle, easier to curse the dark instead." - Nightwish, I prefer to light a candle.
False dichotomy. “If not slavery lite, then what!?!?”
And no, Adam, in his typical fashiom just called me an “annoying and ignorant” troll when I raised these points. The same way he called another well-known figure here a “coward.”
This is why the formal debate is necessary.
His plan includes controlling the distribution of vast swathes of land he can no way lay legitimate claim to. I watched it. I’ve read his platform. But go ahead and call me ignorant. That seems to be the trend with Adam and his supporters when it comes to respondinng pretty standard points of critique.
We’re going to be debating this soon anyway, in a formal setting. Maybe you’ll see what I mean more clearly then.
Would you explian to me how returning the rights to individuals does any of what you talked about. Again, in the video Adam talks about first dissolving the federal government, then the states, when things are in the community level things are voluntary or you can pull back to your own propoerty. Thank you soo much for allowing me to show others how brilliant and easily defended these things are. Unlike you, it is not required of me to attack. I can stay true to th NAP. We simply have different opinions. Again though what was your plan again? Or are you still just attacking without any real plan of your own? Many people like to critisize others while doing nothing themselves. I really would love to hear how you plan on acheiving your goals. Or are you just shouting down those who are taking action and offering no real alternative?
What do you have in mind for a monetary replacement for the fed? They are a private corporation so about all you could think about doing is severing the contract for them to be the financial agent for the UNITED STATES INC.
JFK wanted to issue a silver backed currency
Why do we need to replace the dollar? For one crypto will soon be everywhere.
The focus should be on ending the fed, the centralized printing, distribution, control, and fractional reserve system. Keep the "dollar" per se, just deny bankers the ability to manipulate it
I think we get rid of the Fed by stripping away it's food. The federal government feeds that monster, and its previous incarnations as well. I think if you want to get rid of a weed, dig up the root and get rid of the whole plant.
If you got rid of the legal tender laws, that dissolving the Federal Gov't would do. Then the Fed will simply dissolve as well. Then the free market will deal with the units of exchange just fine, most likely an assets based honest money.
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At the very least getting the idea out for succession on ballets, a "none of the above" option I think would be a dramatic change and a possibility of getting a majority if we continue to have clowns like Hillary and Trump running.
Great answers to some hard and Technical questions!
ADAM: What do you think of the fact that Rand Paul had added an End the Fed amendment to S 2155, the Senate banking bill?
Adam... When you travel through Texas via I-40... through Amarillo, have you ever stopped at that famous Steak House where they will give you the meal for free if you can consume the whole 72 oz. steak? I've been there twice. Even in my "eating heyDay" I could never get past a 20oz T-Bone, but I watched on both occasions how those guys friggin' did it. Once in 1985. Once in 2001. Amazingly, each had the strategy where they cut the steak down to pieces the size of your thumbnails. ...and ate relatively fast (since there is a time limit for the deal... along with a large baked potato and salad requirement -- and I believe disqualification for vomiting).
You, on the other-hand... being the JarHead Supreme, would probably try to stuff the whole dang thing down your throat in one piece without even chewing!!!! Why do I say this? Because that is how your campaign sales pitch is doing it to my ears and eyes... Your presentation is literally expecting the "customer" to eat not just 4 1/2 lbs., but the whole friggin' 2,000 lb steer in one sitting!!! And I have heard the stuff since 1975, whereas I am 98% in agreement with the AnarchoVol "solution" (gotta see your noGov Justice System work in a county first). What must the average working GOP or Dem member feel if they decided to read it? Please!!!
I mean, I can't even get someone to LISTEN to your book... and we are talking about men and women in Steemit who ALREADY AGREE with your AnarchoVol prescription!!! Even they don't want to spread it to 3 friends in their social circles to light a fire; they are acting like deer in the headlights! WTF? I haven't even ventured out into statist America yet!!!
So here's the prescription for this problem... You keep describing this effort as a "referendum" of the American people... which would shut the pie holes of any jerkOff in a suit in WDC. Well then, WHY THE PHUQUE DON'T WE ACTUALLY PUT FORTH A REAL REFERENDUM in the form of:
"US Constitution Amendment #28... The Final One".
Now we have a thumbnail size piece of steak the American adult can chew on... swallow and digest with a very little bit of pain. Meanwhile, we start the Petition process NOW... as a deFacto effort of your Campaign, along with the LP, at large.... revitalizing the county affiliates, too. You will become as well known as Jarvis and Gann of 1978 Prop. 13 in CA.... (ask any LP-CA member of that era what that thing did for LP membership and status!!!)
No big sales pitch. No big explanation of AnarchoVol noGov... nor even Libertarian Minarchy. Simply "Unite America by Split 50!" That great Irony in our nation....
Now... in the meanwhile, your campaign simply consists of: Once I have this Final Amendment properly passed, in my hands... and walk it into WDC, beginning my "Liquidation Sale", I will simultaneously be turning my efforts towards becoming the nonGovernor/nonPresident of my homeland: Arizona Republic in 2022... and comprehensively working to implement the ideals in my "Freedom!" book. While we gather the required signatures to put this #28 on the ballot in all 50 states, I will be working simultaneously along with the LP to find 49 young men who will clone my effort in their respective new Nation... breaking down these 50 new nations into 3,142 county subdivisions... some of which I suspect will be modeled after the ideal in the book. I don't expect all the new nations to reject the elephants and jackasses from their halls of government... one bite of steak at a time, folks........
Keep It Simple, Silly... Keep It Cheap, Kid. KISS & KICK.
Again, the irony of: Divide ("Split 50!") and Unite..... LOL
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My dad won, didn't pay for his steak!
your very very excellent video ,so great post .
I vote in favour of ending the federal government. I think your thinking is great and you would do great to people and the governments. I wish for you to become the president. Lol
Don't hide this from your friends/family. Let them hear his speech and decide for themselves, at least see what they have to say about it. Keep it up, Adam and team!