That is what I was talking about, and it is being removed by default.
It essentially has to be removed because the curve is being flattened for the first x hours, so there is no point to having it, because there is no advantage to voting first anymore.
Honestly I think this is just a clever transition to no curation in HF26.
Currently, voting earlier than 5 minutes after a post is published results in less curation rewards for the voter. This led to the rise of auto-vote bots that vote at or near the end of this 5 minute window, severely disadvantaging manual voters.
With this change, there will no longer be a penalty for early voting of a post/comment.
The intrinsic advantage of rewarding users who are bringing value to the network is good enough. Are you implying that new users aren't going to get upvoted anymore because rewards aren't being sapped by those who upvote later?
This mechanic that is being removed has never worked; at least as long as I've been here.
It's been nothing but a net gain for LEO removing it entirely.
We should get rid of the convergent curve as well, as it is also less than worthless and greatly decentivizes engagement and upvoting comments.
It makes zero sense for 'curation', something that is 100% determined by optional & permissionless frontends, to be enforced on the backend in any way. The flat 'curation' kickback is just a brain hack that makes it more likely that users will vote other people. I'd say we're headed in a good direction.
I think the offer is to make the first x hours timing indifferent and after the cut off the same like now.
Order still matters outside the window.
No penalty, nor benefit, for voting early until the window closes then it works like it has.
If I understand it correctly.
the early voting penalty becomes irrelevant immediately, as it is all flat in that first window - there is no advantage to vote early, so no reason to penalize it either.
That is what I was talking about, and it is being removed by default.
It essentially has to be removed because the curve is being flattened for the first x hours, so there is no point to having it, because there is no advantage to voting first anymore.
Honestly I think this is just a clever transition to no curation in HF26.
https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@blocktrades/roadmap-for-hive-related-work-by-blocktrades-in-the-next-6-months
Great!
Then what will be the advantage of discovering content?
At some point there needs to be rewards for the ones that voted first.
The intrinsic advantage of rewarding users who are bringing value to the network is good enough. Are you implying that new users aren't going to get upvoted anymore because rewards aren't being sapped by those who upvote later?
This mechanic that is being removed has never worked; at least as long as I've been here.
It's been nothing but a net gain for LEO removing it entirely.
We should get rid of the convergent curve as well, as it is also less than worthless and greatly decentivizes engagement and upvoting comments.
Well all the above inclines to totally flat curation....
Yeah I've been against curation for years.
https://peakd.com/curation/@edicted/curation-and-sbd-are-broken
So this is a big win for me.
It makes zero sense for 'curation', something that is 100% determined by optional & permissionless frontends, to be enforced on the backend in any way. The flat 'curation' kickback is just a brain hack that makes it more likely that users will vote other people. I'd say we're headed in a good direction.
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I think the offer is to make the first x hours timing indifferent and after the cut off the same like now.
Order still matters outside the window.
No penalty, nor benefit, for voting early until the window closes then it works like it has.
If I understand it correctly.
the early voting penalty becomes irrelevant immediately, as it is all flat in that first window - there is no advantage to vote early, so no reason to penalize it either.
Yes I hope the penalty is removed ... just making sure people dont forget it and we end up worse then now