How important is the real part of our lives to answer arguments on a platform like HIVE?

in Proof of Brain3 years ago (edited)

How important is the real part of our lives to answer arguments on a platform like HIVE?


It's a question I've been asking myself for a few days following all the commotion that has been unleashed in the @proofofbrain community with the exchange of posts and comments between users @lucylin and @regenerette, something that ended up involving much of the community as both are very active users and the community is also not so numerous at the moment.

Who is right or wrong is beside the point, although I left my personal opinion at that time in a comment. What interests me more, in this case, is a part of one of @regenerette's comments and that has been the trigger of my questioning. The part of the comment is this.

I have 5 months of going in and out of hospitals, I can barely stay in my ass to write an article and use my fingers, doctors say paralysis is close. I have a person putting on my underwear, my socks, my clothes and cooking and washing my body....I have almost 40 years...why should I be called names just like last time when I wasn't able to stay up more and answer his offensive behavior?

I don't want to put the whole comment here as it is too long but, being honest, I can sum it up in simple ad hominem arguments against @lucylin that didn't really answer anything and things like that. Well, my point is that she brings up for the moment in that comment her real world problem, in this case an illness that keeps her in and out of hospitals, close to paralysis and with people helping her with all the household stuff. I don't question this at all, it's not the reason for this post but .... Does all this make it impossible for @regenerette to write a response to an argument in HIVE?

Definitely not and that can be seen in the amount of posts and comments she writes on a daily basis.


So much has been the "commitment" she has shown to the community that she has even received a POB Power delegation from @proofofbrain. So, back to my initial question and the one that has left me thinking these days for some time. How important is the real part of our lives to answer arguments on a platform like HIVE?

Or maybe I should change the question a bit and say, does the real part of our lives matter as much when answering arguments in HIVE as it does, for example, in a controlled and centralized social platform like Facebook?


We all know what happens on Facebook, the "poor me" style used for others to feel sorry for you and the snowflakes who can't/won't respond to criticism is a common occurrence. I would even go so far as to say that those types of users are one of the reasons why many of us gave up on traditional social networks and are using HIVE. In traditional social networks, for example, as soon as someone pulls the "poor me" card (real or not) they automatically almost have "won the fight" without the need to actually respond with valid arguments.

It definitely doesn't work the same way in HIVE.

Here, in general, the brain is used more than the heart to write and discuss about something. And I mean that in every sense, from the figurative to the literal sense. (See I say "in general" and not "always", I have also witnessed downvote wars for illogical reasons sadly).

And this does not mean that you are not allowed to write, for example, about some illness or problem you have in your life. I have several friends, some who are no longer among the living, who wrote on Steemit about their illness as a way of relief from daily stresses. But they did not do it to get pity and thus win arguments or to receive more rewards (some do but, as far as I know, this is not the case).

In HIVE (and I clarify that I speak of HIVE to integrate all communities) voting is not only a way to say that you like something, you are also giving a monetary reward to the user you vote for, unlike traditional social networks. Understanding this makes people think before they vote for something. Call it a psychological effect, greed or whatever but definitely here we are not like in other social networks where you freely give "likes" without thinking left and right. In HIVE you think before you vote. (unless you are a bot or your vote is automated).

HIVE blockchain users and their communities do not work like users of traditional social networks in this sense and in many others.


Here if you can write a post you can definitely write a comment. And if your comment doesn't answer arguments but with it you just try to shield yourself from answering by using a problem of the real part of your life that is not really relevant (something that as I said is usually done in traditional social networks) people will usually notice it and will react against it.

My conclusion is that the real part of our lives has no relevance to answer arguments on HIVE!


And what do you think?


To @regenerette

Maybe you need to learn a bit more about the differences between HIVE and traditional social networks.... You have been using the HIVE blockchain for less than two months from what you have said and besides, you are an "expert" in traditional Social Networks and it shows in your behavior. Perhaps if you know a little about the technical and economic aspects, you can understand that here, for example, you are looking for quality, not so much quantity?

And definitely something you need to also learn is that blockchain is an open book. I don't question what everyone does with their money but? If the commitment to the community is so strong? Why do you need a delegation from @proofofbrain having you almost double the amount in liquid POB in the wallet? Everyone has their private needs to cover and I'm not arguing that but I put my money where my mouth is. For example, all the POB I earn I power it up. I understand that it is better for everyone because I know how the technical and economic part of HIVE and especially POB works. Maybe you need it to be able to live, I don't know and it is not my reason to argue about it (I know that many here really need it). A little tip, if you power up the almost two thousand liquid POBs you have, you will receive a lot more in curing with almost 4000 POB Power (counting the delegation you already have). Right now you are basically losing money.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but rather as a call to reflect and learn. A secret, I am 43 years old and I am still learning and I hope to never stop learning, hopefully, until I die.



30% from the rewards of this post are going to @pob-fund

Edited to correct some grammatical errors. There are surely many more and I apologize for that.


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What is the argument they are having and why is it so important for everybody else?
Have you guys considered not reading their posts, if you don't like them ?

That's the beautiful thing about social media. You can just stay away and without attention those dramas go away. I would have stayed away from this post, if I would have thought that it's about drama.

On the general question of this post:

I think your real life matters, as long as you feel the need to put it out there on your own. We want to share our experiences and learn from each other.

On the other hand, it shouldn't be used to settle a debate about objective things.
If one side argues reasonably and the other goes for pitypoints, everybody knows, who won that round.

If both sides are not convincing (which is, what I suspect in this specific situation), there is no winner and that's okay, too.

In your quote it seems, like she is reasonably explaining, why she doesn't answer somebodies question/attack. That should be fine. We have real lifes. We can be busy or sick. We have the power to choose, when we want to engage in a fight. It's legitimate to say, I won't fight, because I have shit going on in my life.

You can disagree, but I won't promise to engage. :)


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My post was pretty on queue for this kind of insanity, I knew it would only be so long before a meltdown over stupidity corrupted the public forum here as it did all other hive side chains.

https://www.proofofbrain.io/hive-150329/@phusionphil/do-not-get-sucked-into-trends-by-peer-pressure


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Please let us allow peace to reign...this platform is amazing And i would love to see it become peaceful so that we can keep reading great and useful contents...thank you all...


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You got my vote. After 3 weeks of being quiet about this, I am just asking people to stop using my name to tokenize on it, farm comments, and likes and to refocus on what we can build, rather than destroy.


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lol and i am here just thinking "this has got to be about the money, its always about the money..."


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No it is not :D


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I had to go check out the arguments...but honestly I gained some knowledge from the arguments though,that is one thing about arguments,you can learn one or two things from it and stay informed....arguments are not bad if it is done politely and respectfully ,as long the parties involved do not turn it to a fight or personal attack...


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Exactly. Thank you for seeing both sides.